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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26899062 - 08/25/20 04:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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the old way of policing is coming to an end. It might take another few years, but the times are changing.




And what are we gonna replace it with? Because some people have got this dumb idea in their head that the majority of humans will still act benevolently without law to keep them in line.

And I disagree about the shooting, man. That guy made strong jerk like reach in his car and the cop literally didn't fire until the moment. I consider that good training.... and then he fired too many times. I dunno man. Maybe he's had experience or heard stories about belligerent drug users who don't go down with one or two shots. The guy was almost acting suicidal by behaving that way in front of cops with guns right in front of him. He either had the I.Q. of a peanut or was on some serious drugs. Take your pick. :shrug:




This is a very strong “don’t resist tyranny and everything  will be fine” attitude

A jerk motion isn’t justification for shooting someone. In fact, having a gun isn’t justification in a country where citizens have a right to bear arms. Until that gun is pointed at you, the police shouldn’t be allowed to defend themselves. If you don’t like that, then repeal the second ammendment.



Again on point.
I sure as fuck don't want to be shot by cops for owning a gun and having it at arms reach.




It sounds like no one here actually watched the footage of both videos as closely as I have, because that's not what happened.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] * 2
    #26899084 - 08/25/20 04:26 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

So I heard BLM and Antifa burned down a house and killed 5 people, including children. Still not terrorists, guys?


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] * 1
    #26899087 - 08/25/20 04:29 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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the old way of policing is coming to an end. It might take another few years, but the times are changing.




And what are we gonna replace it with? Because some people have got this dumb idea in their head that the majority of humans will still act benevolently without law to keep them in line.

And I disagree about the shooting, man. That guy made strong jerk like reach in his car and the cop literally didn't fire until the moment. I consider that good training.... and then he fired too many times. I dunno man. Maybe he's had experience or heard stories about belligerent drug users who don't go down with one or two shots. The guy was almost acting suicidal by behaving that way in front of cops with guns right in front of him. He either had the I.Q. of a peanut or was on some serious drugs. Take your pick. :shrug:




This is a very strong “don’t resist tyranny and everything  will be fine” attitude

A jerk motion isn’t justification for shooting someone. In fact, having a gun isn’t justification in a country where citizens have a right to bear arms. Until that gun is pointed at you, the police shouldn’t be allowed to defend themselves. If you don’t like that, then repeal the second ammendment.



Again on point.
I sure as fuck don't want to be shot by cops for owning a gun and having it at arms reach.




It sounds like no one here actually watched the footage of both videos as closely as I have, because that's not what happened.



You don't need the other video. Shooting justification happens in the moment. Not based on prejudice. Even if the guy punched a cop in a scuffle before running instead of walking to his car.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26899130 - 08/25/20 05:01 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Qualified immunity doesn’t apply when the agent of the state violates a citizens civil rights. Any officer who shoots someone because they had a gun , or because they thought they had a gun, should lose that immunity. The constitution explictly states that Americans have the right to carry a gun. Shooting someone for simply exercising that right is a civil rights violation.

Personally, I think the second ammendment is a fucking disaster for this country and is one of the primary reasons why we have so much police violence, but if you support the second ammendment and turn around and justify police shooting citizens because they might have a gun, then you’re a complete and total hypocrite. What exactly does having rights mean if you can be killed simply for exercising it? I’d really like someone explain how they justify this dissonance.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26899160 - 08/25/20 05:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The citizens of Kenosha are going to pay for this guys healthcare for the rest of his life. Socializing the fear of a pussy cop.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26899221 - 08/25/20 06:02 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Just saw a close up still picture of the guy. Looks like he has a box cutter or a knife. Dumbass was just asking to get shot.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26899235 - 08/25/20 06:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

If people were getting killed "only because they had a gun" then we'd be hearing about people getting shot by police all the time in open carry states.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence]
    #26899239 - 08/25/20 06:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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So I heard BLM and Antifa burned down a house and killed 5 people, including children. Still not terrorists, guys?





They had creepy white masks on which I don't think is Antifa's style.

Antifa thinks they are doing good when they are usually doing harm. This doesn't strike me as Antifa or even rioters, it strikes me as just three fucked up people. I see no connection between this and the rioting, despite how fucked up it is.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods] * 1
    #26899242 - 08/25/20 06:10 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Qualified immunity doesn’t apply when the agent of the state violates a citizens civil rights. Any officer who shoots someone because they had a gun , or because they thought they had a gun, should lose that immunity. The constitution explictly states that Americans have the right to carry a gun. Shooting someone for simply exercising that right is a civil rights violation.

Personally, I think the second ammendment is a fucking disaster for this country and is one of the primary reasons why we have so much police violence, but if you support the second ammendment and turn around and justify police shooting citizens because they might have a gun, then you’re a complete and total hypocrite. What exactly does having rights mean if you can be killed simply for exercising it? I’d really like someone explain how they justify this dissonance.




Cops don't shoot you for having a gun, but they will shoot you if they think you're reaching for one when you're not complying and they already have theirs pointed at you. This is not hard.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26899272 - 08/25/20 06:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Cops don't shoot you for having a gun



Really?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Philando_Castile


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Kwyjibo] * 1
    #26899294 - 08/25/20 06:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

*They are not supposed to.

Everyone here agrees, I think.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence]
    #26899297 - 08/25/20 06:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Just saw a close up still picture of the guy. Looks like he has a box cutter or a knife. Dumbass was just asking to get shot.



He was unarmed. If he was armed they'd say he was armed. Why are you in here making shit up as justification for his killing?


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence]
    #26899306 - 08/25/20 06:39 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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If people were getting killed "only because they had a gun" then we'd be hearing about people getting shot by police all the time in open carry states.




Lol people are getting shot by police all the time in every state

Wisconsin is an open carry state


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26899326 - 08/25/20 06:53 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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*They are not supposed to.

Everyone here agrees, I think.




First off, if that is your position then why aren’t you outraged by all the people who get shot because they had a gun or were suspected of having a gun or twitched in the wrong way?

The fact is that people are shot all the time simply because they have a gun or the cops thought they had a gun

If Americans have a constitutional right to carry (bear) a gun, then it is a civil rights violation to shoot a person for having a gun, even if the cop feels threatened. Cops should be required to wait until that gun is pointed at them or another person before they can shoot. The rights afforded in the constitution are rules agents of the state must follow. It makes their jobs more difficult. If they can’t handle following the basic rules of it society then they should quit their jobs. If the second ammendment puts their lives at too much risk then maybe we should have a discussion about having gun possession a fundamental right. But until then, why the fuck aren’t second ammendment supporters outraged when cops use the “he had a gun” or “I thought he had a gun” excuse for killing someone?


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26899327 - 08/25/20 06:55 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Just saw a close up still picture of the guy. Looks like he has a box cutter or a knife. Dumbass was just asking to get shot.



He was unarmed. If he was armed they'd say he was armed. Why are you in here making shit up as justification for his killing?




He starts his car with a box cutter. You can tell because he's black.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: christopera]
    #26899358 - 08/25/20 07:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Let’s be honest. He was shot because he didn’t respect their authority. They got mad.

The fundamental problem with all of this is cops brainwash themselves into believing they are entitled to respect despite behaving in ways that squander that respect on a daily basis.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: christopera]
    #26899359 - 08/25/20 07:20 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I guess we'll find out. Apparently people did hear the cops say "drop the knife." The guy could have pointed an RPG into a crowd of kids and morons like you would still say "if he wasn't black you wouldn't care!" Whether it was a knife or not, he still fucked up. The silver lining is it was a guy with a history of domestic abuse and sexual assault and not an actual upstanding citizen.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence]
    #26899366 - 08/25/20 07:23 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Do you think there should be some repercussions for being wrong when you paralyze a man you thought had a knife? People get fired all the time for screw ups on the job that don’t result in death or permanent disability, but cops seem to never pay any price for getting it wrong.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26899367 - 08/25/20 07:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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If people were getting killed "only because they had a gun" then we'd be hearing about people getting shot by police all the time in open carry states.




Lol people are getting shot by police all the time in every state

Wisconsin is an open carry state




And why aren't all of those scenarios worth making the headlines?


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods] * 1
    #26899370 - 08/25/20 07:27 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Do you think there should be some repercussions for being wrong when you paralyze a man you thought had a knife? People get fired all the time for screw ups on the job that don’t result in death or permanent disability, but cops seem to never pay any price for getting it wrong.




Of course. If it was a knife and he didn't just do the smart thing and drop it and stop going to reach into his car? No shit he's going to get shot. I said earlier that they could have just reached for his arms which were free as he was walking and just taken him to the ground easily. But now after hearing about how he was apparently fighting them before the video started, and people talking about the cops telling him to drop the knife, it makes more sense. Either way, like I said, it should come as no surprise that that happened. I thought it was common knowledge to not reach into your car as a cop has his gun drawn on you. Especially in the black community where I have been hearing for years about "the talk" where they teach their kids they have to be even more careful to avoid stuff like this from happening. Apparently he wasn't given that talk because that was just pure stupidity.


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