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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Brian Jones]
#26891123 - 08/21/20 05:59 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Almost like a Tom Lehrer song. "And they will all go to Stormfront when they go, what a comforting fact that is to know, tolerance on formaldehyde rooting for the next genocide, yes they'll all go to Stormfront when they go."
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Asante] 2
#26891307 - 08/21/20 08:55 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Let me repeat what Enlil said: "It shouldn't be happening to anyone, (someone almost killing someone else), but if it's going to happen, I'd rather it be to a white person."
Let me ask you all, if I said, "I'd rather black people die than white people die." Will I get warned/banned?
Lets see.. Are you black?
Enlil is white. He can say things about white people that would not be polite if black people said them, just like there are things about white people that are would not be polite if black people said them.
Black people say bad things about white people all the time without ever being called out for being racist. Alllll the time.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Brian Jones] 1
#26891311 - 08/21/20 08:56 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was given both a warning and then a ban for a so-called racist post. When I got the warning, I quoted the post in question to ask why it was racist and clarified my position. By quoting it, Ballsalsa decided that was me repeating my self and banned me.
So, no. *Someone* is completely wrong about this. Double standards galore around here, it seems.
1. The Ecstatic did not admit anything, inadvertently or not. As usual you are only right in your own mind.
2. Semantics aside, any actions the mods have taken against you were for being irritating nonstop. Sometimes people in an official position are required to state an official reason for an action, but now you know the real reason. I told you earlier that being irritating would be tolerated here, but not nonstop irritating.
This happened like three weeks ago now, man.
And if I'm hearing you right, you're basically saying they are allowed to be hypocrites when dealing with someone they don't like.
Correct me if I'm wrong, here. I can't get any other meaning out of your words.
You didn't get any other meaning out of my words, because you hear what you want to hear.
Yes, there is hipocracy that we all engage in sometimes. Enlil once sent me a message giving me three ban points, and a week and a half later he was saying worse things about that guy than I was. That guy is gone from politics and nobody is missing him. Everyone here is human and imperfect. But as I keep telling you, there is a limit to how much irritating behavior that will be tolerated here.
I know I'm irritating sometimes, but I understand the limits. You don't.
You see, the funny thing about this is that you've decided to commit to engaging me in such a way where almost everything you throw my way is an indirect personal insult, and yet you call me the annoying one.
If you'd debate me, I'd debate you. YOU'RE the one choosing to turn our exchanges into a shit flinging match, not me. Step it up and I will. Stay in the dirt, I'm not leaving either.
But you're choosing how this goes, man.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] 1
#26891352 - 08/21/20 09:21 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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"Peaceful" protesters march through residential areas of Portland literally just to march down the streets and shout, "Wake up, motherfucker!"
Here.
And *gasp* guess who got the footage? Good 'ol Andy Gno. We wouldn't know this is happening otherwise.
What is this accomplishing?
Just one thing: More red votes in November. These fuckers are really pushing their luck. I think their goal is to be as annoying and antagonistic as possible so they smacked and can blame the other side for starting violence.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] 1
#26891357 - 08/21/20 09:23 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Let me repeat what Enlil said: "It shouldn't be happening to anyone, (someone almost killing someone else), but if it's going to happen, I'd rather it be to a white person."
Let me ask you all, if I said, "I'd rather black people die than white people die." Will I get warned/banned?
Lets see.. Are you black?
Enlil is white. He can say things about white people that would not be polite if black people said them, just like there are things about white people that are would not be polite if black people said them.
Black people say bad things about white people all the time without ever being called out for being racist. Alllll the time.
You’re implying there’s an equivalency between these two things. There is not.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#26891362 - 08/21/20 09:26 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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"Peaceful" protesters march through residential areas of Portland literally just to march down the streets and shout, "Wake up, motherfucker!"
What’s the problem?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: The Ecstatic] 3
#26891366 - 08/21/20 09:28 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Let me repeat what Enlil said: "It shouldn't be happening to anyone, (someone almost killing someone else), but if it's going to happen, I'd rather it be to a white person."
Let me ask you all, if I said, "I'd rather black people die than white people die." Will I get warned/banned?
Lets see.. Are you black?
Enlil is white. He can say things about white people that would not be polite if black people said them, just like there are things about white people that are would not be polite if black people said them.
Black people say bad things about white people all the time without ever being called out for being racist. Alllll the time.
You’re implying there’s an equivalency between these two things. There is not.
The idea that a minority can't be racist toward a majority is unequivocally false.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
#26891368 - 08/21/20 09:29 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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"Peaceful" protesters march through residential areas of Portland literally just to march down the streets and shout, "Wake up, motherfucker!"
What’s the problem?
I'm painting a picture, one stroke at a time, of what these people would look like if they had more power.
This is how they behave WITHOUT power.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26891371 - 08/21/20 09:31 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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And you felt the need to say that because...?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
#26891374 - 08/21/20 09:32 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just wait a little longer, Koods. It will all come together.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Brian Jones] 1
#26891379 - 08/21/20 09:37 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Vahn421 said: Well, inadvertently admitting what Enlil said was completely racist is a good start.
I was given both a warning and then a ban for a so-called racist post. When I got the warning, I quoted the post in question to ask why it was racist and clarified my position. By quoting it, Ballsalsa decided that was me repeating my self and banned me.
So, no. *Someone* is completely wrong about this. Double standards galore around here, it seems.
1. The Ecstatic did not admit anything, inadvertently or not. As usual you are only right in your own mind.
2. Semantics aside, any actions the mods have taken against you were for being irritating nonstop. Sometimes people in an official position are required to state an official reason for an action, but now you know the real reason. I told you earlier that being irritating would be tolerated here, but not nonstop irritating.
This happened like three weeks ago now, man.
And if I'm hearing you right, you're basically saying they are allowed to be hypocrites when dealing with someone they don't like.
Correct me if I'm wrong, here. I can't get any other meaning out of your words.
You didn't get any other meaning out of my words, because you hear what you want to hear.
Yes, there is hipocracy that we all engage in sometimes. Enlil once sent me a message giving me three ban points, and a week and a half later he was saying worse things about that guy than I was. That guy is gone from politics and nobody is missing him. Everyone here is human and imperfect. But as I keep telling you, there is a limit to how much irritating behavior that will be tolerated here.
I know I'm irritating sometimes, but I understand the limits. You don't.
I don't think there are any limits on "irritating behavior" in this forum. If some irritating behavior is "tolerated", why not more? If it's not against the rules, why would there be any limits?
Also, what is irritating to one person isn't irritating to another, in other words, it's all subjective in nature.
There's several members that I find irritating in nature, but that's not against the rules and that's why they're still here.
Disagreeing with people and finding their debating tactics to be completely disingenuous isn't bannable. If it was, we wouldn't have a forum.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26891383 - 08/21/20 09:38 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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"Peaceful" protesters march through residential areas of Portland literally just to march down the streets and shout, "Wake up, motherfucker!"
What’s the problem?
I'm painting a picture, one stroke at a time, of what these people would look like if they had more power.
This is how they behave WITHOUT power.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26891387 - 08/21/20 09:38 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Is this a q drop?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26891389 - 08/21/20 09:40 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Let me repeat what Enlil said: "It shouldn't be happening to anyone, (someone almost killing someone else), but if it's going to happen, I'd rather it be to a white person."
Let me ask you all, if I said, "I'd rather black people die than white people die." Will I get warned/banned?
Lets see.. Are you black?
Enlil is white. He can say things about white people that would not be polite if black people said them, just like there are things about white people that are would not be polite if black people said them.
Black people say bad things about white people all the time without ever being called out for being racist. Alllll the time.
You’re implying there’s an equivalency between these two things. There is not.
The idea that a minority can't be racist toward a majority is unequivocally false.
Calling for double standards and equality at the same time isn't a good combination in my opinion.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: qman]
#26891418 - 08/21/20 09:57 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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If I wanted to ban vahn for being irratiating it would have happened already. I keep hoping that he'll progress beyond a Ben Shapiro level of discussion. I have high hopes and am a glutton for punishment, what can I say?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26891431 - 08/21/20 10:08 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The idea that a minority can't be racist toward a majority is unequivocally false.
That’s not my contention. The point is there’s a reason why calling a black man the n word is substantially worse than calling a white man a cracker.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: ballsalsa]
#26891432 - 08/21/20 10:09 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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You're a better person than I.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#26891435 - 08/21/20 10:10 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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@qman
We can’t have equality until there’s equity. And there isn’t equity. That’s why black people “get away” with being racist towards whites.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods] 1
#26891457 - 08/21/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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We've made progress. We're admitting black people are racist toward whites. Now we're simply discussing how it is justified.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: ballsalsa]
#26891464 - 08/21/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd also like to point out, in case everyone missed ... this forum isn't called "political debate." It's a discussion forum that debate may or may not be apart of.
I do this my way and you do it yours.
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That's funny. 20 days ago you said to me,
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What makes you think I want you to go? In all honesty, it is always a disappointment when a poster such as yourself melts too hard and catches a ban.
So which is it?
EDIT: Unless I'm reading the words of your former statement wrong. I may need clarification.
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