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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] * 1
    #26857004 - 08/01/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Tell that to Tik Tok


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26857052 - 08/01/20 10:45 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

You mean the Chinese owned app? Every social media company spies on us and that one is no exception. Who do you want your data going to, America or China? Pick a foot to shoot, the left or the right.

Trump is doing what I think any American president would do if a social media app was becoming a national security threat. Can you imagine the USA bargaining with China in order to get intel on our own people? :rofl:

Also, India already banned Tik Tok and Japan is about to.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26857063 - 08/01/20 10:57 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

More conservative viewpoint back pedaling because trump is the one doing it :rolleyes:

I dont use tiktok, and my personal belief is that all main social media is nefarious
in nature, but it is still definitely an issue of federal censorship and you
being blind to tbat and in fact condoning it, is a symptom of trumps cult of personalities strangle hold on you.

Do you not think americans should have the choice to use tik tok?

Is facebook better because it's an american company spying on you and selling your data?


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26857068 - 08/01/20 11:00 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I didn’t realize first amendment rights are voided if you don’t like how a private entity handles its data.

I seems like there are more constitutional means to bring tik tok into compliance with whatever issues the government is accusing them of. Certainly simply banning them from operating in the US without any due process by executive fiat will be challenged.

But how do you square this opinion that trump is the ultimate protector of free speech when this move is decidedly and unambiguously silencing the speech of tik tok and its users.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26857072 - 08/01/20 11:04 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Antifa militant throws explosive device at courthouse while wearing vest grandma bought him for rioting

Oh my gosh, you can't make this shit up. These rioters are just so cute. You just want to pinch their little cheeks.

There is an entire Twitter thread about how people found this particular vest online and someone found a cute little grandma saying, "I got this for my grandson!" Apparently someone managed to match up the information to this kid. :lol:

The juiciest part is that the website first deleted all the reviews and then removed the link to the product after it was getting too much attention.

Ah, censorship. How I loathe you so.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] * 1
    #26857077 - 08/01/20 11:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Ah, censorship. How I loathe you so.



Now I know you're just here to troll :lol:


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: natedawgnow] * 1
    #26857083 - 08/01/20 11:09 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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More conservative viewpoint back pedaling because trump is the one doing it :rolleyes:

I dont use tiktok, and my personal belief is that all main social media is nefarious
in nature, but it is still definitely an issue of federal censorship and you
being blind to tbat and in fact condoning it, is a symptom of trumps cult of personalities strangle hold on you.






Since when does having an opinion that happens to overlap with Trump's opinion make anyone a cult of personality? I don't suck Trump's dick. He does a lot of shit I'm critical of, but I try to understand his motive, regardless. I REALLY prefer learning how the president actually thinks.

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Do you not think americans should have the choice to use tik tok?

Is facebook better because it's an american company spying on you and selling your data?




I think that China getting a hold of too much information would become either a minor or major threat to our national security. I think what to do about Tik Tok stems from how present that threat is. There is no moral rationale to my position with this issue and I don't care how people *feel* about an app if the above conditions are present. It needs to go.

Japan and India have both either figured this out already or have been persuaded into believing that it is a threat.

I think there is enough evidence to say it is. Do you disagree?

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Ah, censorship. How I loathe you so.



Now I know you're just here to troll :lol:





Uh... what?


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] * 2
    #26857090 - 08/01/20 11:13 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

In one post you condone federal censorship of a private entity.

In the next post you claim to loathe censorship.

You are stacked with so much cognitive dissonance you cant even keep track of your own
opinions, even when expressed moments apart from eachother. Sad, really.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26857098 - 08/01/20 11:18 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

LMAO! The CCP are the global KINGS of censorship right now... North Korea aside of course. THEY have more influence over our censorship than our own country does in some ways. Fuck, South Park did an entire episode on this last year.

Another country who is basically in a cold war with you is very, very different than the rights you give to your own citizens to speak and see what has been spoken.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26857104 - 08/01/20 11:21 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Antifa militant throws explosive device at courthouse while wearing vest grandma bought him for rioting

Oh my gosh, you can't make this shit up. These rioters are just so cute. You just want to pinch their little cheeks.

There is an entire Twitter thread about how people found this particular vest online and someone found a cute little grandma saying, "I got this for my grandson!" Apparently someone managed to match up the information to this kid. :lol:

The juiciest part is that the website first deleted all the reviews and then removed the link to the product after it was getting too much attention.

Ah, censorship. How I loathe you so.




That video doesn’t show him throwing an explosive device. It shows him throwing something. Then eventually there’s an explosion. Nobody’s gonna prosecute that dude.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26857109 - 08/01/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

The prosecution wasn't my focus. The focus is just how adorable these "revolutionaries" are.

"Grandma, thanks for the vest! Can you pack me a sack lunch too? I want the crust off and triangle slices!" :rofl:


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26857110 - 08/01/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Did I say anything about china?

Nice attempt to move goal posts. I'm sure my comment caused you serious mental anguish
as you realised that you really dont have any valid opinions. You contradict your own
values multiple times in the same page of comments. You're a caricature of a trumper at this point


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26857114 - 08/01/20 11:27 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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LMAO! The CCP are the global KINGS of censorship right now... North Korea aside of course. THEY have more influence over our censorship than our own country does in some ways. Fuck, South Park did an entire episode on this last year.

Another country who is basically in a cold war with you is very, very different than the rights you give to your own citizens to speak.




So what? We don’t follow Chinese law. We follow US law.

Every person and business that operates in the United States has the same rights regardless of where they are from. What about the rights of the Americans who use tik tok as a platform of free speech?

Do you  have any principles? You don’t actually believe in free speech if you can’t recognize the civil rights implications of this decision


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] * 1
    #26857115 - 08/01/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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The prosecution wasn't my focus. The focus is just how adorable these "revolutionaries" are.

"Grandma, thanks for the vest! Can you pack me a sack lunch too? I want the crust off and triangle slices!" :rofl:




How old are you?


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: natedawgnow] * 1
    #26857116 - 08/01/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)


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Did I say anything about china?




We're talking about Tik Tok, which China owns.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26857117 - 08/01/20 11:29 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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The prosecution wasn't my focus. The focus is just how adorable these "revolutionaries" are.

"Grandma, thanks for the vest! Can you pack me a sack lunch too? I want the crust off and triangle slices!" :rofl:




How old are you?




Well, I like my crust ON.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26857124 - 08/01/20 11:31 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

I have no idea what that means


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26857123 - 08/01/20 11:31 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)


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Did I say anything about china?




We're talking about Tik Tok, which China owns.




Whats your point? The conversation isnt about chinas censorship, which was the content of your post to which I replied.

This conversation is about US federal censorship, in case you cant keep up


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26857125 - 08/01/20 11:31 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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LMAO! The CCP are the global KINGS of censorship right now... North Korea aside of course. THEY have more influence over our censorship than our own country does in some ways. Fuck, South Park did an entire episode on this last year.

Another country who is basically in a cold war with you is very, very different than the rights you give to your own citizens to speak.




So what? We don’t follow Chinese law. We follow US law.

Every person and business that operates in the United States has the same rights regardless of where they are from. What about the rights of the Americans who use tik tok as a platform of free speech?

Do you  have any principles? You don’t actually believe in free speech if you can’t recognize the civil rights implications of this decision




I already said once that my opinion on the app is contingent on how much of a threat they are to our national security. The information out there indicates that being a, "yes."

Convince me they are not a threat to national security and I'll change my mind. Otherwise, I'm not budging on this one.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26857128 - 08/01/20 11:35 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Ok Nate, let's recap.

You said:
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In one post you condone federal censorship of a private entity.




I'm going to replace these words so they aren't as vague.

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In one post you condone federal censorship of a Chinese owned app that is spying on all American citizens that use it and is a threat to our national security.




If the app is in the CCP's hands, then laying out the nature of the CCP is relevant if they are breaking international law.

Now, I'm not a fan of FB or Twitter doing this shit either, but I'll begrudgingly take them over a country that really would love to spread our checks and ass rape us.


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