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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#26848813 - 07/27/20 08:54 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.
That's why I laughed really loud when Bush Jr. said we are going to have a war on terrorism. Yay, another invisible enemy (crusade/witch hunt)! I'm honestly not finding it very amusing anymore as I grow older because many didn't let a good tragedy go to waste. It has molded the environment many innocent citizens around the world live in today.
The title of this topic is a fine example of zealotry that makes me ponder if we as a whole are really more civilized or rational than our ancestors.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: R.I.P.Zappa]
#26850446 - 07/28/20 06:21 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
#26851042 - 07/29/20 01:57 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
#26851044 - 07/29/20 01:59 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Also, I'm calling you, NoT suRpRisEd!
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
#26851171 - 07/29/20 06:10 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: Call me not surprised by this. Turns out the looting in Minneapolis was instigated by a white supremacist
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-umbrella-man-was-white-supremacist-at-george-floyd-protest-20200728-sdn54zcg4vbr5dcnmdc4uqc7fu-story.html
That’s the woman trump praised at his news conference yesterday
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
#26851506 - 07/29/20 10:19 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: Call me not surprised by this. Turns out the looting in Minneapolis was instigated by a white supremacist
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-umbrella-man-was-white-supremacist-at-george-floyd-protest-20200728-sdn54zcg4vbr5dcnmdc4uqc7fu-story.html
Yeah. Blame the riots on a white guy
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MagicMush123]
#26851524 - 07/29/20 10:32 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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You're really hung up on the whole blame thing, aren't you?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MagicMush123] 1
#26851725 - 07/29/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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koods said: Call me not surprised by this. Turns out the looting in Minneapolis was instigated by a white supremacist
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-umbrella-man-was-white-supremacist-at-george-floyd-protest-20200728-sdn54zcg4vbr5dcnmdc4uqc7fu-story.html
Yeah. Blame the riots on a white guy 
Yeah now that you know it was started by a white guy it’s funny how you think blaming someone is laughable
Is this funny?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsls.com/news/virginia/2020/07/27/police-richmond-riots-instigated-by-white-supremacists-disguised-as-black-lives-matter/%3foutputType=amp
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RICHMOND, Va. – Riots in downtown Richmond over the weekend were instigated by white supremacists under the guise of Black Lives Matter, according to law enforcement officials.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26851770 - 07/29/20 12:51 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: HappySloth]
#26851843 - 07/29/20 01:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't believe terrorism arises from evil people. Evil is just a word to describe a person or action that exhibits behavior relating to a personally assigned set of characteristics. Assuming a very general definition of evil and terrorism, I think terrorism is a result of desperate situations brought on by greed and sometimes religious oppression. It's a bummer, really, because people would be much happier in communities where resources are shared and death is accepted. Instead, some are driven to accumulate wealth and power by whatever means necessary: sweatshops, environmental destruction, genocide. That's as close to the root I can see. How people have come to view terrorism is just a distraction of even bigger issues.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Ancient Mariner]
#26852064 - 07/29/20 02:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MadMuncher]
#26852181 - 07/29/20 04:06 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh yeah, don't get me wrong. I don't think it's necessary to cut at the root to improve living conditions. I just mean that the word terrorism is a loaded word that was used to label a certain type of terrorist that was created by the profits that could be made on oil. Fascists pepper-balling people for demanding equality or simply walking down the street, even if they were "just doing their job", is terrorism by most definitions. When reform doesn't work, I think revolution is necessary to enact change in the world. Because how can reform enable equality when only a small, unenlightened portion of the population have any real access to political resources?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Ancient Mariner]
#26853201 - 07/30/20 09:41 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know this seems to be a novel idea around these parts, but hear me out:
Anti government resistances aren't always in the right and they aren't always in the wrong.
Pro-government authority isn't always in the right and isn't always in the wrong.
Sometimes BOTH sides are wrong and sometimes both sides have a point.
The trick really is to figure out what side is fucking over the lives of innocent people more, disturbing the peace more, destroying the city more, etc...
My position is simple. If the rioters and antifa keep having their way, there isn't going to be much of a Portland left to defend.
I wanted these people dealt with because I cared about Portland. I used to live there... because I can see what not dealing with them will lead to. But hey, at this point I say just get rid of the police entirely and let the city burn. These rioters will rip it apart and it may actually turn the state Red this year, so why not let it happen?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26853254 - 07/30/20 10:10 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes, your position is simple. what are some synonyms for "simple" ?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] 1
#26853274 - 07/30/20 10:23 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ripping apart a government does not equate to eternal chaos. Granted, it sometimes leads to a Napoleon; however, if the current government is not providing equal representation or even a grain of dignity towards minority groups, I think it might be time to enact real change that doesn't happen with the our electoral system and capitalist regime. Again, I'm not arguing what's right or wrong because those ideas are not universal truths; what I'm saying is that my sympathies go towards people resisting oppression by governments, even if they are governments that provide fulfilling lives to a large portion of its citizens.
Btw, I'm not a revolutionary myself but I understand that people take that sort of action under desperate circumstances. They aren't born with malice intent to enact hell on earth. I'd probably be right with them if my basic human needs weren't met.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Ancient Mariner]
#26853289 - 07/30/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm actually ALL for revolution... in fact, so much so that I find the rioters and Antifa's pathetic attempt at revolution to be completely contemptible.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] 1
#26853303 - 07/30/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Vahn421 said: I'm actually ALL for revolution...
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Enlil] 1
#26853308 - 07/30/20 10:41 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Vahn421 said: I'm actually ALL for revolution...
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Vahn421 said: Rioting = Bad.
I'm pretty sure conflating these two statements wouldn't hold up in a court of law to accuse me of anything contradictory, so I'm not sure why you think it's going to hold up here.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26853313 - 07/30/20 10:47 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not familiar with Antifa's tactics but considering the amount of money and support the US military has at its disposal, I would say that any attempt at overthrow would appear pathetic. I still respect anyone who dedicates themselves to a better world.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26853761 - 07/30/20 02:31 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: Yes, your position is simple. what are some synonyms for "simple" ?
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Vahn421 said: I'm actually ALL for revolution...
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Vahn421 said: Rioting = Bad.
I'm pretty sure conflating these two statements wouldn't hold up in a court of law to accuse me of anything contradictory, so I'm not sure why you think it's going to hold up here.
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