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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26839438 - 07/22/20 10:20 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

This is your thread my man. You brought in all the regulars. You had a thesis, it was poorly thought out. I have no ill will over it. We all make mistakes. There's no reason to get too worked up. Admit your mistakes and live another day. You're likely to gain a lot of respect for it.

That said, I am heading to the Pub to debate (love) chicken wings. Have a good night.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: christopera]
    #26839441 - 07/22/20 10:21 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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christopera said:
This is your thread my man. You brought in all the regulars. You had a thesis, it was poorly thought out. I have no ill will over it. We all make mistakes. There's no reason to get too worked up. Admit your mistakes and live another day. You're likely to gain a lot of respect for it.

That said, I am heading to the Pub to debate (love) chicken wings. Have a good night.




Enjoy your beer and wings. Nothing personal, mate. You're welcome to your opinion and I'm welcome to disagree that my thesis was "poorly thought out."


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26839537 - 07/22/20 11:22 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I think you need to poast in the chicken wing thread and give it a break:smilingpuppy:


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Texas Honey Badger]
    #26839545 - 07/22/20 11:26 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I’m learning a lot from these threads  :pipesmoke2:


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26839573 - 07/22/20 11:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Vahn421 said:
"Hurr durr, I dunno if Antifa exists as an organization." (And this is mostly just FB. Pick your social media platform.)

There are literally hundreds of thousands of members between all these groups.


https://www.facebook.com/berkshireantifa
https://www.facebook.com/BrightonAntifascists/
https://www.facebook.com/bristolantifascists/
https://www.facebook.com/dywizjon161
https://www.facebook.com/essexantifa/
https://www.facebook.com/leedsafn/
https://www.facebook.com/londonantifascists
https://www.facebook.com/MerseyAFN/
https://www.facebook.com/neantifascists2/
https://www.facebook.com/OxfordAntiFascists}
https://www.facebook.com/Pompeyantifa/
https://www.facebook.com/Preston-Anti-Fascist-Network-944192638996091/?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/SheffieldAFN/
https://www.facebook.com/southampton.afa
https://www.facebook.com/wigantifa/?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/AntiffaAber/
https://www.facebook.com/rebelcities
https://www.facebook.com/afaireland
https://www.facebook.com/antifascistactionforgreece
https://www.facebook.com/BHstopedl
https://twitter.com/BuryAntifa
https://www.facebook.com/calondres/
https://www.facebook.com/cornwallantifa/
https://www.facebook.com/Doncaster-Antifascists-1755716261337629/
https://www.facebook.com/dundeeantifa/
https://www.facebook.com/HastingsSolidarity/
https://www.facebook.com/wycombeantifa/
https://www.facebook.com/oiveyitsjewdas
https://www.facebook.com/KentARN/
https://www.facebook.com/KirkleesAFA/
https://www.facebook.com/leicesterantifascists/
https://www.facebook.com/Lincoln-Against-Raci-and-Fascism-531496663565857/
https://www.facebook.com/LondonBlackRevs
https://www.facebook.com/manchesterantifascists
https://www.facebook.com/MiddlesbroughagainstEDL
https://www.facebook.com/movementforjustice
https://www.facebook.com/NorthLondonAntifascists/?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/NorwichAntifa
https://www.facebook.com/NottsAntiFa/
https://www.facebook.com/plymouthantifascists
https://www.facebook.com/PortsmouthWatch
https://www.facebook.com/Scarborough-Activists-909102195854914/
https://www.facebook.com/SUATRSDL3
https://www.facebook.com/SEANTIFA
https://www.facebook.com/SouthendAntifascists
https://www.facebook.com/StandAgainstFascism
https://www.facebook.com/Stop-the-March-for-England-507686476017404/
https://www.facebook.com/SwanseaAntifa
https://www.facebook.com/Valleys-Antifascists-Antiffar-Cymoedd-809156329170092/
https://www.facebook.com/yorkantifascists


https://wessexsolidarity.wordpress.com/
https://antifascistnetwork.org/get-involved/
https://supportantifaprisoners.wordpress.com/
https://emaf.noblogs.org/
http://fashwatch.weebly.com/
https://malatesta32.wordpress.com/



Those aren't even all the same group.  What are you trying to pull here?  Are you claiming that anyone who is anti-fascist is Antifa?  If so, you're talking about billions of people on the planet.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #26839574 - 07/22/20 11:44 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

You just got to wade thru too much talk in here:picard:
It only takes 2 questions to ask 1 question in here


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Enlil]
    #26839640 - 07/23/20 12:34 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Enlil said:
Quote:

Vahn421 said:
"Hurr durr, I dunno if Antifa exists as an organization." (And this is mostly just FB. Pick your social media platform.)

There are literally hundreds of thousands of members between all these groups.


https://www.facebook.com/berkshireantifa
https://www.facebook.com/BrightonAntifascists/
https://www.facebook.com/bristolantifascists/
https://www.facebook.com/dywizjon161
https://www.facebook.com/essexantifa/
https://www.facebook.com/leedsafn/
https://www.facebook.com/londonantifascists
https://www.facebook.com/MerseyAFN/
https://www.facebook.com/neantifascists2/
https://www.facebook.com/OxfordAntiFascists}
https://www.facebook.com/Pompeyantifa/
https://www.facebook.com/Preston-Anti-Fascist-Network-944192638996091/?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/SheffieldAFN/
https://www.facebook.com/southampton.afa
https://www.facebook.com/wigantifa/?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/AntiffaAber/
https://www.facebook.com/rebelcities
https://www.facebook.com/afaireland
https://www.facebook.com/antifascistactionforgreece
https://www.facebook.com/BHstopedl
https://twitter.com/BuryAntifa
https://www.facebook.com/calondres/
https://www.facebook.com/cornwallantifa/
https://www.facebook.com/Doncaster-Antifascists-1755716261337629/
https://www.facebook.com/dundeeantifa/
https://www.facebook.com/HastingsSolidarity/
https://www.facebook.com/wycombeantifa/
https://www.facebook.com/oiveyitsjewdas
https://www.facebook.com/KentARN/
https://www.facebook.com/KirkleesAFA/
https://www.facebook.com/leicesterantifascists/
https://www.facebook.com/Lincoln-Against-Raci-and-Fascism-531496663565857/
https://www.facebook.com/LondonBlackRevs
https://www.facebook.com/manchesterantifascists
https://www.facebook.com/MiddlesbroughagainstEDL
https://www.facebook.com/movementforjustice
https://www.facebook.com/NorthLondonAntifascists/?fref=ts
https://www.facebook.com/NorwichAntifa
https://www.facebook.com/NottsAntiFa/
https://www.facebook.com/plymouthantifascists
https://www.facebook.com/PortsmouthWatch
https://www.facebook.com/Scarborough-Activists-909102195854914/
https://www.facebook.com/SUATRSDL3
https://www.facebook.com/SEANTIFA
https://www.facebook.com/SouthendAntifascists
https://www.facebook.com/StandAgainstFascism
https://www.facebook.com/Stop-the-March-for-England-507686476017404/
https://www.facebook.com/SwanseaAntifa
https://www.facebook.com/Valleys-Antifascists-Antiffar-Cymoedd-809156329170092/
https://www.facebook.com/yorkantifascists


https://wessexsolidarity.wordpress.com/
https://antifascistnetwork.org/get-involved/
https://supportantifaprisoners.wordpress.com/
https://emaf.noblogs.org/
http://fashwatch.weebly.com/
https://malatesta32.wordpress.com/



Those aren't even all the same group.  What are you trying to pull here?  Are you claiming that anyone who is anti-fascist is Antifa?  If so, you're talking about billions of people on the planet.




I pulled the list from a master source that was an actual Antifa website. They listed their, "allies" that they were affiliated with there.

I could shave 10-20% off the list and make it more pretty for you and less ambiguous if you'd like, sir. Keep it "antifa" in name, only.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26839645 - 07/23/20 12:36 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Here's the master site. There are more than one.

https://antifascistnetwork.org/get-involved/


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26839662 - 07/23/20 12:47 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

So looking at this list I copy pasted in more detail, it appears the bottom list on the master site is only loosely affiliated with Antifa.  (Some may be, some may be not) whereas the top list is more DIRECTLY associated with Anfita.

I could actually shave the list in half to keep it more accurately Antifa™ and less anti-fascist, period... but all that actually does is reduce the numbers arbitrarily and doesn't change anything, really. I'm just bringing it up for sake of accuracy.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26839664 - 07/23/20 12:49 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

the mayor finally got his head out of the sand and showed up tonight


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26839666 - 07/23/20 12:50 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Vahn421 said:
So looking at this list I copy pasted in more detail, it appears the bottom list on the master site is only loosely affiliated with Antifa.  (Some may be, some may be not) whereas the top list is more DIRECTLY associated with Anfita.

I could actually shave the list in half to keep it more accurately Antifa™ and less anti-fascist, period.




i looked at the site. none of those links are from the us


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26839667 - 07/23/20 12:51 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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MadMuncher said:
Quote:

Vahn421 said:
So looking at this list I copy pasted in more detail, it appears the bottom list on the master site is only loosely affiliated with Antifa.  (Some may be, some may be not) whereas the top list is more DIRECTLY associated with Anfita.

I could actually shave the list in half to keep it more accurately Antifa™ and less anti-fascist, period.




i looked at the site. none of those links are from the us




Antifa is a global organization. It was just the first one I found. I can find an American one for you tomorrow if you'd like.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26839670 - 07/23/20 12:54 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

yes the american antifa master site please


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26839672 - 07/23/20 12:57 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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yes the american antifa master site please





I will provide something, though I may actually be standing corrected.

I'm looking at this other anti-fascist network more closely now. Despite being an actual network and despite using many of the same symbols of Antifa, they may actually be their own independent organization that just works with Antifa.

Very interesting. I'm curious about this network now, too. I always thought it was just Antifa™  that had spread to other countries. I wonder how much influence the two groups have had on one another?

The thing is, they say THIS on the homepage very first thing: "Like everyone else we’ve been in lockdown, spending a lot of time at home with our stockpile of beans in our Antifa™ bunker...And we’ve also made time to chat to some comrades from Oregon about what’s going down in the USA, where they have also had to contend with a social situation that is in some ways more extreme and also with right-wing street movements protesting the lockdown."

So I mean... that's where I started. But now I don't know.

Looks like I'm GOING to have to provide an American source, but I'm tired. I'll do it tomorrow.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
    #26839676 - 07/23/20 01:05 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I also actually need to concede that I forgot anarchists can also be Antifa™, but anarchist Antifa™ and far leftist Antifa™ have almost the same core values, so it's easy to conflate the two politically.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] * 1
    #26839688 - 07/23/20 01:24 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Why are you scared of antifa? Are you a fascist pig? Because that’s the only reason I can think of

Are you far right? You lookin to oppress and suppress me? I got a huge fuckin problem with that

Are you a far right fascist?


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Citizen X]
    #26839797 - 07/23/20 04:47 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

i saw someone at the protests tonight with a red and black flag with an A and a AR and i asked him what it meant. he said it represents anarchy. i asked him if it represented any group or organization. he said no just his ideology. i told him ive been hearing a lot about antifa, how they are behind the protests, if he knew anyone there from associated with antifa. he said its not a real organization in the us. ive heard that a few places now. i cant remember how he articulated it but basically there are small groups of people who refer to themselves as antifa but they are not an actual organization in the us



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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26839809 - 07/23/20 05:03 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

downtown tonight.



heard the mayor got tear gassed. new tactics by the feds. they actually got on the bull horns and told people to leave tonight but never came out shooting while i was aroind


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26839911 - 07/23/20 07:37 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Vahn should go back to looking for basements in pizza parlors


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26839919 - 07/23/20 07:46 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Nah, I've seen enough teeny weeny peepees here to last one lifetime.


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