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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Asante]
    #26942622 - 09/18/20 03:00 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Makes sense.  So it's been shown Floyd was an addict?


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26942625 - 09/18/20 03:02 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, that was established pretty early on.

Should addicts be summarily executed by police?


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Kryptos]
    #26942640 - 09/18/20 03:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You may be right, though I missed where it was established, other than claims from those who wanted to deny he had a lethal dose.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26942645 - 09/18/20 03:12 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

He did multiple stints in prison between 1997 and 2005 on drug charges. Pretty safe to say he was likely using drugs.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Kryptos]
    #26942659 - 09/18/20 03:21 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

But according to Snopes, those were charges for selling cocaine, not for using fentanyl.

Well, one charge was for possession of cocaine, but even if he used it (I don't know), does cocaine give you a tolerance for fentanyl?  :shrug:


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26942736 - 09/18/20 04:07 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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You may be right, though I missed where it was established, other than claims from those who wanted to deny he had a lethal dose.



There were two autopsies


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26942769 - 09/18/20 04:26 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I know junkies who shoot fatal levels of fentanyl all the time. They're used to it.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26942817 - 09/18/20 04:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
So it's been shown Floyd was an addict?



Yeah, that was established pretty early on.




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You may be right, though I missed where it was established, other than claims from those who wanted to deny he had a lethal dose.



There were two autopsies



The autopsies established he was a fentanyl addict?


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26943200 - 09/18/20 09:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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The autopsy said he didn't die from a drug overdose.



Two autopsies said that actually



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The autopsy said he didn't die from a drug overdose.



False


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: meltdowner]
    #26943519 - 09/19/20 04:37 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Would you mind screenshot or similarly posting the part of either autopsy saying he died from drugs


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26943600 - 09/19/20 06:14 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

If he was walking around with a toxic level of fentanyl in his system he was almost certainly a junkie. Just because he had a level of fentanyl that could kill most humans in his system doesnt mean it would kill him. Its called having a tolerance. A friend of mine just died from a hot bag. He used to get them all the time this one just happened to be extremely over dosed. If you get a hot bag of fentanyl youre usually out like a light very quickly. When youre on opiates your breathing slows down or in the case of an overdose it will shut off. So this dose obviously wasnt fatal to him. The knee on the neck is what put him over the top.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #26943616 - 09/19/20 06:29 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I’ve already explained that someone who was overdosing on an opiate would not be complaining that they can’t breathe. Opiates do not make it difficult to breathe, they make your body forget to breathe. Someone on opiates who is conscious would have no problem breathing.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26943650 - 09/19/20 07:20 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

You Anglos with your Zionist pals and gremlins in London, Switzerland, Germany, Australia, etc etc. Five eyes.


You bastards, Childish bastards.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: GreenLotus]
    #26943655 - 09/19/20 07:26 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Wut


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26943923 - 09/19/20 11:19 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Would you mind screenshot or similarly posting the part of either autopsy saying he died from drugs



Here is the medical examiner report.  It seems to indicate both sides are correct:
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The Office of the Armed Forces Medical Examiner agrees with the autopsy findings and the cause of death certification of George Floyd as determined by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s Office. His death was caused by the police subdual and restraint in the setting of severe hypertensive atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease, and methamphetamine and fentanyl intoxication.




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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #26943929 - 09/19/20 11:22 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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If he was walking around with a toxic level of fentanyl in his system he was almost certainly a junkie.



Others offered the possibility that he was a dealer who swallowed the evidence.

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Just because he had a level of fentanyl that could kill most humans in his system doesnt mean it would kill him. Its called having a tolerance.



Yes, I get it.  That's why I asked if it was proven he was a junkie.  I'm guessing he was, but I don't think anyone's verified that.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
    #26943934 - 09/19/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I’ve already explained that someone who was overdosing on an opiate would not be complaining that they can’t breathe. Opiates do not make it difficult to breathe, they make your body forget to breathe.



I'm sure he was complaining about the knee on his neck, not the fentanyl in his system.


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    #26944078 - 09/19/20 12:42 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Would you mind screenshot or similarly posting the part of either autopsy saying he died from drugs



Here is the medical examiner report.  It seems to indicate both sides are correct:
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The Office of the Armed Forces Medical Examiner agrees with the autopsy findings and the cause of death certification of George Floyd as determined by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s Office. His death was caused by the police subdual and restraint in the setting of severe hypertensive atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease, and methamphetamine and fentanyl intoxication.






Falcon, please be careful with this type of information. I understand you're just trying to get at the truth or whatever, I sincerely do. I get it, we all want to know what the truth actually is. However, the longer you argue this point about how much of a role the drugs played in his death, the further away we all get from discussing the actual problem, which is police brutality.

The autopsy says that his death was caused by the police subdual and restraint, which is the part that people are taking issue with. The more you point your finger at the drugs (whether they were a relevant factor in his death or not), the further away we get from the discussion about police brutality. Drugs are not the problem here. Police brutality is the problem. I repeat: police brutality is the problem. Whether George Floyd was on drugs or not, whether the drugs were a factor in his death or not, there is absolutely nothing that justifies the actions those police officers took on him. It was violent and unnecessary, and it was a factor in his death (the autopsy you quoted here confirms it). It was not just. That's the problem.

Please, stop arguing with other people about the drugs so that we can get back to discussing the far more important issue of violence in this country.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Nonagon Infinity]
    #26944136 - 09/19/20 01:08 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

I agree with your point that "police brutality is the problem. Whether George Floyd was on drugs or not, whether the drugs were a factor in his death or not".

What puzzles me is why you're on MY case when OTHER people insist drugs played no role.  It's them you should be counseling to stay focused on the bigger picture.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26944255 - 09/19/20 02:06 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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I’ve already explained that someone who was overdosing on an opiate would not be complaining that they can’t breathe. Opiates do not make it difficult to breathe, they make your body forget to breathe.



I'm sure he was complaining about the knee on his neck, not the fentanyl in his system.




This is when he was clearly having a panic attack in the back of the cruiser.


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