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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #26921855 - 09/06/20 07:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Antifa is like the Earth Liberation Front. If you raid a lab and free all the monkeys and spray paint ELF on the wall, that was an Earth Liberation Front action. There is no central authority approving or coordinating actions, just fully independent groups to whom the ELF philosophy appeals, who believe in direct action and decide to put two and two together.

Unsanctioned
Unfunded
Unorganized

Other than by themselves and their understanding of what ELF is.




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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Asante]
    #26922290 - 09/07/20 01:14 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Well, maybe that's why they sometimes end up actually fighting each other and why you see some of them calling black or Latino police or republicans racial slurs. No coordination I guess. :shrug: That's a movement that won't get anywhere good. Even if they did follow through with their "death to America" chants, I can picture them getting slaughtered by their own like the communists in the early 1900s.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence]
    #26922503 - 09/07/20 06:46 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

There's antifa groups they recruit the same way right wing extremist groups do. They prey on weak minded gullible individuals that need a sense of identity, community, and a target for their frustration and anger.

Sometimes the groups are only groups because of the internet.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26922510 - 09/07/20 06:58 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

What is terrorism?

I tell my kid that if I’m lied to, then all the devices capable of accessing the internet are locked up for a couple of weeks.

This possibility scares my kid into acting like I want.

It’s no different than the law, which can jail or execute you, using the threat of force to coerce desired behavior.

What is terrorism if not the attempt to force people to live by another set of laws they don’t want to obey?


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Ep1429]
    #26922773 - 09/07/20 10:17 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Thats not terrorism; Im not filled with terror at the thought "if i break the law i might go to jail".

It might be terrifying if I was going to go to jail no matter if I followed the law or not.

See I, just like everyone else in America have the choice to break the law or not. I definitely do not agree with all the laws, but I know that if I break them there is a high probability that I will suffer consequences.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: The Influence]
    #26922808 - 09/07/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Thats not terrorism; Im not filled with terror at the thought "if i break the law i might go to jail".

It might be terrifying if I was going to go to jail no matter if I followed the law or not.

See I, just like everyone else in America have the choice to break the law or not. I definitely do not agree with all the laws, but I know that if I break them there is a high probability that I will suffer consequences.




You only have no fear of jail BECAUSE you haven’t been there.

The same way a kid isn’t scared of a hot stove before they touch one.

Until you’ve had a chance to be on the receiving end of Lady Justice’s infamous peggings, you wouldn’t know to be scared of them.

But once you’ve had a taste, once you know the alternatives, they worry you quite a bit.  People who have been jail like to run from the cops to avoid going back.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Ep1429] * 1
    #26922854 - 09/07/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Lol, well you assume Ive never been there. Regrettably I have to admit Ive not only been to a handful of county jails but have been a resident of the Wisconsin Dept of Corrections for nearly 3 years.

I do not fear going to jail or prison because I know that it wont happen unless I break the law. Quite honestly I was more afraid of the penal system from things I heard before I went.

Its quite an easy concept though....dont break the law....dont go to jail. Dont resist arrest and things go smoother.

Now if you want to work on changing some laws because you dont agree, then go for it. There are a few avenues that one can take to accomplish this.

I would not however recommend breaking the law you dont agree with and then resist arrest all the while shouting about an injustice. Or getting ones self injured or killed by the cops and furthermore none of these scenarios depict terrorism (unless of course one of the avenues towards change is looting and rioting) which is how our discussion started.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: The Influence]
    #26922856 - 09/07/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Thats not terrorism; Im not filled with terror at the thought "if i break the law i might go to jail".

It might be terrifying if I was going to go to jail no matter if I followed the law or not.

See I, just like everyone else in America have the choice to break the law or not. I definitely do not agree with all the laws, but I know that if I break them there is a high probability that I will suffer consequences.




I would be surprised if you didn't break the law fairly regularly.  There are a lot of laws.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26922886 - 09/07/20 11:50 AM (3 years, 4 months ago)

That may be, I think my grass has surpassed the city ordinance allowance. But they wont be knocking down my door for that.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: The Influence] * 1
    #26923020 - 09/07/20 12:56 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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That may be, I think my grass has surpassed the city ordinance allowance. But they wont be knocking down my door for that.




...yet.

That's the thing with having a lot of laws. If they don't like you, they will knock down your door for not cutting your grass.

This, by the way, is a thing that places do to minorities.

Harvard did a whole thing on it.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Kryptos]
    #26923246 - 09/07/20 02:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: qman]
    #26923333 - 09/07/20 04:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Burnie Sandals, lol



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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: mycosis]
    #26923677 - 09/07/20 07:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Self defense is a human right.  Or as they say in the ghettos of America.. "dont start no shit there wont be no shit."


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Enlil]
    #26923684 - 09/07/20 07:39 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Enlil said:
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How do you read this?  Reads like a call for violence to me. 
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We need more violent and impulsive leftists to keep the cops and the MAGAs in line.






Do I need to explain the difference to you?  Or are you just using bullshit rhetoric?

Just in case you really need the explanation, there is a huge difference between discussing societal violence and discussing two members of this site in a hypothetical violent situation.  Eminence literally contemplated a violent confrontation between him and another member of this site, possibly involving a weapon.  Whether you, he, or anyone else can see the line between this and what Kryptos said, I can very clearly see it.  Perhaps that's why I'm the one who has been entrusted with the ban button. 

Why is it always the alt right people who need me to be a dick?  It seems every time I confront a leftie with conduct that doesn't belong on this site, I get something along the lines of, "okay, I see the point.  I'll try to be aware of that."  From the right, I always get something like, "you're just unfair and biased against me because blah blah blah."

I'm not a leftie or a rightie, but from where I sit, I can definitely see which side is more mature and reasonable.



This is some funny ass shit coming from you pal.  Lol


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: meltdowner]
    #26923749 - 09/07/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

Lol, I still can't and don't believe anyone thought that's what I meant in that post.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Eminence]
    #26926362 - 09/09/20 01:24 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: qman] * 4
    #26926365 - 09/09/20 01:27 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: qman] * 2
    #26926375 - 09/09/20 01:33 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/09/09/a-13-year-old-boy-with-autism-was-shot-by-police-after-his-mother-called-for-help-managing-a-mental-breakdown/

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/08/us/salt-lake-city-police-shoot-boy-autism-trnd/index.html

Anyone know if BLM or Antifa are going to protest this case?  :rofl2:




why wouldn't they put a knee on his neck for 9 minutes? because he's white? that's fucking racist. they didnt even shoot to kill he deserves to have a fair and equal and duly processed murder like everyone else.

wtf do you think we're protesting?

"defund the police" "all cops are bastards" "hold cops accountable"


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #26926401 - 09/09/20 01:52 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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Yes




I'll be thoroughly impressed if they do.


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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MadMuncher]
    #26926404 - 09/09/20 01:53 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

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MadMuncher said:
Quote:

qman said:
https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/09/09/a-13-year-old-boy-with-autism-was-shot-by-police-after-his-mother-called-for-help-managing-a-mental-breakdown/

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/08/us/salt-lake-city-police-shoot-boy-autism-trnd/index.html

Anyone know if BLM or Antifa are going to protest this case?  :rofl2:




why wouldn't they put a knee on his neck for 9 minutes? because he's white? that's fucking racist. they didnt even shoot to kill he deserves to have a fair and equal and duly processed murder like everyone else.

wtf do you think we're protesting?

"defund the police" "all cops are bastards" "hold cops accountable"




OK, let's see if the outrage is selective or not.


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