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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MagicMush123]
#26910268 - 08/31/20 05:25 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: That’s not what happened. It was the president who wants them fired.
He asked a what if about a football owner. This doesn't even involve trump 
We know how trump feels. He asked if an owner decided to fire a player on his team for kneeling
He said “wouldn’t it be great.” He’s the president of a country with a first ammendment that protects free speech and he’s encouraging people to fire individuals who express their opinions. He’s the spokesman for cancel culture.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods]
#26910287 - 08/31/20 05:34 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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koods said: I don’t support rioters. I do understand their anger. They’re also not being violent while wrapped in the flag of a politician. That’s the difference here. One side is inciting violence the other side is not. The police incite the violence with violence, then the supporters of the police come along and incite it even more.
Ok, at least you can denounce rioting and we can agree on something
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MagicMush123]
#26910300 - 08/31/20 05:37 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Damn magic mush you must not believe in free speech at all.
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If the kneeling during the anthem isn't supposed to be about the flag or anthem why can't they choose a different time to kneel?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: natedawgnow] 2
#26910305 - 08/31/20 05:39 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: Vahn according to your honest answers, you are a leftist.
It is reasons like this that people say you have cognitive dissonance. Not attacking you thanks for taking it I was genuinely interested in what your results would show.
What have we really discussed in detail aside from the rioting, violence and policing?
I'm pro-choice, pro-drugs, pro-gay marriage and sexually liberal. I believe in some regulation for business and I'm anti-sexist and anti-racist. I've never been violent and don't believe in violence to get what you want, but I do believe in it as a form of self-defense.
Many of my other positions come from my head being able to override my heart and understand that what I WANT ideologically is not realistically possible.
Having said all that, I have major issues with how most of my "opponents" treat those that disagree with them. If you need a reminder, go back and read the first reply I got on this thread from Ballsalsa.
I find my self completely incapable of siding with a group that treats their opposition the way Ballsalsa, Koods, and others have treated those that they disagree with, here.
It makes a difference to me to realize people at Trump rallies are nicer to people on the left than people protesting Trump rallies are to MAGA hats. By far.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: natedawgnow] 1
#26910312 - 08/31/20 05:41 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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If the kneeling during the anthem isn't supposed to be about the flag or anthem why can't they choose a different time to kneel?
I do. But apparently kneeling during the anthem pissed a lot of people off, so they could have easily chosen a different time to kneel if they didn't want a divisive protest
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods] 3
#26910317 - 08/31/20 05:42 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think all these right wingers like yourself on this site think you have liberal values, but only apply them to yourselves. You say you believe in freedom of speech but also think someone who kneels during the national anthem should lose their job. You call peaceful protesters rioters when you don’t agree with their message.
Because you conflate our values.
And I've said it a million times that I'm not on the political right but you refuse to believe me.
Freedom of speech doesn't apply on the job while you're getting paid. You can't flip customers off without getting fired, either.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Billy Ray]
#26910335 - 08/31/20 05:46 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Recent BLM hate crimes. Specifically BLM, because hate crimes were already mostly committed by black people in general, against all kinds of demographics. I wonder how many will turn it off instantly as soon as they see who's talking about it lol.
This is all disgusting, particularly the brick throw at 1:35.
Listen to this guy. "We out there ready to burn that shit down. We gotta fuckin rip Trump outta that office over there. We not about waiting for the next election. We about to go get that motherfucker."
This is just miles from where I live. Most people in Utah aren't happy about it.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: natedawgnow]
#26910342 - 08/31/20 05:47 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: Damn magic mush you must not believe in free speech at all.
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If the kneeling during the anthem isn't supposed to be about the flag or anthem why can't they choose a different time to kneel?
Freedom of speech gets tricky when the people who pay you don't like your behavior. They have the right to fire you... unless they support you, then you're doing nothing wrong.
But it's your employer's call to make if you're on the clock.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26910349 - 08/31/20 05:49 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think all these right wingers like yourself on this site think you have liberal values, but only apply them to yourselves. You say you believe in freedom of speech but also think someone who kneels during the national anthem should lose their job. You call peaceful protesters rioters when you don’t agree with their message.
Because you conflate our values.
And I've said it a million times that I'm not on the political right but you refuse to believe me.
Freedom of speech doesn't apply on the job while you're getting paid. You can't flip customers off without getting fired, either.
Yea, i never once i was right wing or a rightist or anything, yet he always calls a right winger
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] 1
#26910362 - 08/31/20 05:54 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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If the kneeling during the anthem isn't supposed to be about the flag or anthem why can't they choose a different time to kneel?
Freedom of speech gets tricky when the people who pay you don't like your behavior. They have the right to fire you... unless they support you, then you're doing nothing wrong.
But it's your employer's call to make if you're on the clock.
Exactly, free speech at work is an entirely different issue. Nobody is stopping people from exercising their free speech on their free time.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MagicMush123] 3
#26910363 - 08/31/20 05:54 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think all these right wingers like yourself on this site think you have liberal values, but only apply them to yourselves. You say you believe in freedom of speech but also think someone who kneels during the national anthem should lose their job. You call peaceful protesters rioters when you don’t agree with their message.
Because you conflate our values.
And I've said it a million times that I'm not on the political right but you refuse to believe me.
Freedom of speech doesn't apply on the job while you're getting paid. You can't flip customers off without getting fired, either.
Yea, i never once i was right wing or a rightist or anything, yet he always calls a right winger 
It honestly happens way too often to people I know... where if you don't agree with people on the left on every issue they label you far-right. And it's already driven millions to vote for Trump.
Honestly, people just like Koods have done more to contribute to Trump's campaign than most silent Trump supporters do.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: qman]
#26910367 - 08/31/20 05:55 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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If the kneeling during the anthem isn't supposed to be about the flag or anthem why can't they choose a different time to kneel?
Freedom of speech gets tricky when the people who pay you don't like your behavior. They have the right to fire you... unless they support you, then you're doing nothing wrong.
But it's your employer's call to make if you're on the clock.
Exactly, free speech at work is an entirely different issue. Nobody is stopping people from exercising their free speech on their free time.
Right. Nobody wanted to shut Colin up. Even the most staunch super pissed off at Colin right wingers I know all agree and support his right to say whatever he wants when he's not being paid to be a professional entertainer.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MagicMush123] 1
#26910399 - 08/31/20 06:09 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26910405 - 08/31/20 06:10 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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This may have been posted previously....but where are the protests over this? He is white though and his grandmas great grandma was alive during slavery...or he deserved it because of his white privelage, so fuck this guy right?
https://time.com/5793169/police-officer-shooting-chicago-video/
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: ballsalsa] 1
#26910422 - 08/31/20 06:18 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lol, are you actually that far left?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: The Influence] 1
#26910423 - 08/31/20 06:18 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Influence said: This may have been posted previously....but where are the protests over this? He is white though and his grandmas great grandma was alive during slavery...or he deserved it because of his white privelage, so fuck this guy right?
https://time.com/5793169/police-officer-shooting-chicago-video/
It's a black female cop shooting a white man. It won't spark the level of outrage that the media wants to spark, so it's a very back burner story.
Having said that, I can't see why it was a good idea to shoot and disciplinary action may need to be taken against the cops.
Having said THAT, here again we have video footage of someone resisting. It's so unintelligent.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] 1
#26910453 - 08/31/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Influence said: This may have been posted previously....but where are the protests over this? He is white though and his grandmas great grandma was alive during slavery...or he deserved it because of his white privelage, so fuck this guy right?
https://time.com/5793169/police-officer-shooting-chicago-video/
It's a black female cop shooting a white man. It won't spark the level of outrage that the media wants to spark, so it's a very back burner story.
Having said that, I can't see why it was a good idea to shoot and disciplinary action may need to be taken against the cops.
Having said THAT, here again we have video footage of someone resisting. It's so unintelligent.
You mean there wont be any protesting over the shooting over a white man? There wasnt a wave of pro sports cancellations? Did lebron James chime in on this one? I guess its true that nobody cares if white people are the victims
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MagicMush123]
#26910464 - 08/31/20 06:36 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Who knows? There was once a conversation in a thread here about how all of these political surveys have some bias built in.
Probably yes though,with regard to the specific questions asked
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: The Influence]
#26910489 - 08/31/20 06:50 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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natedawgnow said: Damn magic mush you must not believe in free speech at all.
This is a tragic statement
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If the kneeling during the anthem isn't supposed to be about the flag or anthem why can't they choose a different time to kneel?
I do. But apparently kneeling during the anthem pissed a lot of people off, so they could have easily chosen a different time to kneel if they didn't want a divisive protest 
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The Influence said: This may have been posted previously....but where are the protests over this? He is white though and his grandmas great grandma was alive during slavery...or he deserved it because of his white privelage, so fuck this guy right?
https://time.com/5793169/police-officer-shooting-chicago-video/
Organize a protest
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods] 1
#26910522 - 08/31/20 07:03 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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Firstly no; I would be chopped down by the peaceful BLM and Antifa.
Secondly, that dumbass should have listened to their commands. I was being a tad facetious.
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