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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Enlil]
#26837796 - 07/22/20 09:30 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Are you saying that one cannot riot in protest?
Oh you definitely can. And then someone else definitely can lock you up if you break the law.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: koods] 1
#26837798 - 07/22/20 09:31 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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koods said: You’ve spent this entire thread arguing that everyone at the protests should be locked up. Make up your mind.
Source, or make believe? I never saw that.
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Vahn421 said: I never fucking said that. And you're conflating protesters with rioters. Protesters are fine. Criminals are not.
That makes two of us that wants a source. Can you deliver koods?
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The rioters get mad that the feds are interfering with their "peaceful" protests and use it as justification to commit more crime, despite the fact that their protests were not peaceful to begin with. It's sick and twisted. The mentality of children, really.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MagicMush123]
#26837816 - 07/22/20 09:39 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Are you saying that one cannot riot in protest?
Of course you could but it's agianst law. I'd bet that a majority of Americans are FOR the peaceful protests that are occurring and vehemently AGIANST rioting, looting and attacking the police
Paying your rent late is against the law. Growing mushrooms is against the law. I'm not really sure how the law is relevant to the discussion.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Enlil] 1
#26837821 - 07/22/20 09:41 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think we all agree here drug reform laws are needed.
But using your example PRAGMATICALLY, because rioters aren't getting arrested for MUSHROOMS, but instead arson, theft and violence.... yeah, lock them up.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26837823 - 07/22/20 09:43 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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As long as we lock up all the cops, too, I'm okay with that.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Enlil]
#26837827 - 07/22/20 09:45 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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To be honest, if all cops were locked up, Republicans be would taking this into their own hands and lining up bodies of rioters in the streets. The rioting would already be over.
You want that instead?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Enlil] 1
#26837828 - 07/22/20 09:46 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Enlil said: Are you saying that one cannot riot in protest?
Of course you could but it's agianst law. I'd bet that a majority of Americans are FOR the peaceful protests that are occurring and vehemently AGIANST rioting, looting and attacking the police
Paying your rent late is against the law. Growing mushrooms is against the law. I'm not really sure how the law is relevant to the discussion.
We are discussing protesting vs rioting. One is legal and protected by the 1st amendment and the latter waives your 1st amendment right. Not sure what not paying rent or growing mushrooms in a closet has to do with widespread property damage and looting, though.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] 1
#26837829 - 07/22/20 09:46 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26837833 - 07/22/20 09:47 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Vahn421 said: To be honest, if all cops were locked up, Republicans be would taking this into their own hands and lining up bodies of rioters in the streets. The rioting would already be over.
You want that instead?
Republicans are the biggest pussies in the nation, dude. You really think a bunch of child diddlers and conspiracy nutjobs are going to form an effective combat force?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: ballsalsa]
#26837836 - 07/22/20 09:48 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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No cops = civil war and a fast one at that.
Bodies flying everywhere, 90% of them leftists because they don't know how to actually fight.
By all means, let's play imagination and keep heading down this path... see where it takes us.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MagicMush123]
#26837837 - 07/22/20 09:49 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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We are discussing protesting vs rioting. One is legal and protected by the 1st amendment and the latter waives your 1st amendment right.
Cite a single case in the history of U.S. jurisprudence that finds that one waives his/her first amendment rights by rioting.
Thank you in advance.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Enlil]
#26837843 - 07/22/20 09:51 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Vahn421 said: To be honest, if all cops were locked up, Republicans be would taking this into their own hands and lining up bodies of rioters in the streets. The rioting would already be over.
You want that instead?
Republicans are the biggest pussies in the nation, dude. You really think a bunch of child diddlers and conspiracy nutjobs are going to form an effective combat force?
I have a lot of negative opinions on republicans, but their lack of an ability to fight is not one of them.
This is simple. No cops = those who shoot guns the best wind up being the lawmakers of the new land. And guess who that is? This isn't even fucking close. It would be a complete bloodbath slaughter.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Enlil] 1
#26837844 - 07/22/20 09:52 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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We are discussing protesting vs rioting. One is legal and protected by the 1st amendment and the latter waives your 1st amendment right.
Cite a single case in the history of U.S. jurisprudence that finds that one waives his/her first amendment rights by rioting.
Thank you in advance.
Since when is rioting or the incitement of rioting constitutionally protected? Oh wait it never was
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421] 1
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26837846 - 07/22/20 09:52 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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The only reason Antifa and violent rioters are getting away with anything is because their opposition is letting them.
As soon as a green light was given, Antifa could be smeared in the streets with their own blood by those stronger than them and they'd never riot again.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26837847 - 07/22/20 09:53 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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You say that over and over, and you might even believe it, but do you have anything other than uninformed opinion to base that claim on? If we didn't have police in their current form, how do you know that people who shoot guns the best will be in charge?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Vahn421]
#26837849 - 07/22/20 09:53 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Vahn421 said: The only reason Antifa and violent rioters are getting away with anything is because their opposition is letting them.
As soon as a green light was given, Antifa could be smeared in the streets with their own blood by those stronger than them and they'd never riot again.
Whats ironic is that the police are protecting antifa
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MagicMush123]
#26837851 - 07/22/20 09:54 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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We are discussing protesting vs rioting. One is legal and protected by the 1st amendment and the latter waives your 1st amendment right.
Cite a single case in the history of U.S. jurisprudence that finds that one waives his/her first amendment rights by rioting.
Thank you in advance.
Since when is rioting or the incitement of rioting constitutionally protected? Oh wait it never was
I didn't say it was. You said it waives a person's first amendment rights, though. Where is your source for this claim?
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: Enlil]
#26837852 - 07/22/20 09:54 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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If there's no police, there's no law to enforce.
What do you think comes next? Everyone decides to get in a circle and hold hands?
I'm simply not naive, man.
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Re: Who are the real terrorists? Or are they ALL just terrorists? [Re: MagicMush123]
#26837855 - 07/22/20 09:55 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Vahn421 said: The only reason Antifa and violent rioters are getting away with anything is because their opposition is letting them.
As soon as a green light was given, Antifa could be smeared in the streets with their own blood by those stronger than them and they'd never riot again.
Whats ironic is that the police are protecting antifa 
They are being forced to by their government overlords.
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