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SolaireOfAstora
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Preparation and Recommendations
#26833651 - 07/20/20 05:32 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi All,
I have just this season been starting to experiment with Psilocybe Subaeruginosa, being the local species here in Australia.
So far I have been grinding and soaking my mushrooms in lemon juice before ingestion un-strained, which has produced a rapid 'come up' but lots of stomach cramping during the experience. I have been taking ginger tea along aside and using small amounts of cannabis, but doesn't seem to be helping. I have read some forums that suggest that the mushroom proteins are the culprit, but I am unsure.
I have heard tea is another way to ingest, however I was also made aware that Psilocybin can be damaged when exposed to high temperatures (i.e. when dehydrating or potentially in tea).
Does anyone know anything about the effect of heat on Psilocybin such as in the scenario of making tea? Additionally, can anyone advise if straining the mushrooms out is possible while maintaining their potency? Finally can anyone recommend any other methods for minimising nausea or stomach cramping during a trip?
Cheers all, great community!
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InnerWisdom



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Psilocybin is not harmed by the heat of boiling water. Tea is the best way to ingest fresh mushies at least. Discard the mushroom bits. Search for mushroom tea. Primalsoup, mushboy and dj Ed all have good methods for that. It is very simple but I am too lazy to write my own method 😁
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SolaireOfAstora
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Re: Preparation and Recommendations [Re: InnerWisdom]
#26833836 - 07/20/20 08:48 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks for this! When they are talking about dosages i.e. in the linked article I they referring to a certain species? To be more to the point, would I just substitute my normal dosage of dried for theirs?
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The Mycologist
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Just dose like they are dried. Tea wont diminish anything.
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Re: Preparation and Recommendations [Re: DJ Ed]
#26834023 - 07/20/20 11:00 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh and should also have said, the dose of your strained tea is the same as the mushrooms that went into it. So if you made tea from 3g dried mushrooms, the strength of your tea is 3g
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Re: Preparation and Recommendations [Re: DJ Ed]
#26834032 - 07/20/20 11:03 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Idk why all the hub bub about heating water with psilocybin. The loss in potency is more than negligible. Idk what it was this time around but I could not eat them. I definitely enjoyed the drink as it was a couple of gulps but my God the smell of them dry was make ng my head swirl.
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Re: Preparation and Recommendations [Re: LosTresOjos] 1
#26834038 - 07/20/20 11:07 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yep, there’s no need to ever suffer; tea all the way
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Re: Preparation and Recommendations [Re: DJ Ed]
#26838897 - 07/22/20 05:38 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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What up lad. Fellow Aussie here. I'm quite new to mushies also But I've been doing powdered in a small glass of oj. Perfect quick come up and no stomach pain. I'm am really impressed by the speed of the onset.
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