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Totodile386
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What If I Tried Growing Morels Indoors?
#26833976 - 07/20/20 10:23 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi,
I read online that morels eat soil humus and that the alkalinity of wood ash causes morels to spawn.
What's to prevent me from just ordering morel spores and mono-tubbing them?
I could use either a sawdust and leaf substrate, possibly enriched by organic flour, and possibly supplemented with tomato powder and spinach powder or something, or maybe skip the leaf litter & sawdust, just use a regular flour substrate -- all hydrated with organic coco coir, of course.
When the morel mycelium is consolidated, I could stimulate fruiting by putting the monotub on the windowsill, and squirting either some organic wood ash, or just a touch of milk of magnesia (alkalinity, right?) to stimulate it.
I read about many other users attempting to grow morels with no fruiting success.
Morel spores and live cultures are available online like nothing, yet no say as to growing morels indoors? Could there be a whole slue of morel spore customers out there that have grown morel mushrooms indoors, but not even bothered to say anything?
Or is morel mushroom growing indoors seriously this alien, religious-to-God difficult endeavor that's for none but the most emboldened??
I don't get it.
Edited by Totodile386 (07/20/20 10:23 AM)
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Re: What If I Tried Growing Morels Indoors? [Re: Totodile386]
#26834001 - 07/20/20 10:41 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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The micro flora in the soil have a direct connection to the fruiting of the morel mushrooms. Unless you can successfully determine which micro flora need to be incorporated at what time to promote fruiting then it’s not gonna work.
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Totodile386
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Re: What If I Tried Growing Morels Indoors? [Re: Strainsfordaze]
#26834005 - 07/20/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Strainsfordaze said: The micro flora in the soil have a direct connection to the fruiting of the morel mushrooms. Unless you can successfully determine which micro flora need to be incorporated at what time to promote fruiting then it’s not gonna work.
Are you able to show me any link with proof that says this?
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Re: What If I Tried Growing Morels Indoors? [Re: Totodile386]
#26834088 - 07/20/20 11:46 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have been thinking about trying something like this as well but I was considering using Slippery Elm Bark Powder as a nutritional supplement.
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Totodile386
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Re: What If I Tried Growing Morels Indoors? [Re: Mycochopper]
#26834240 - 07/20/20 01:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yup, I'm really getting the impression that morels need wood litter and possibly straw -- both of these are available organic/pesticide-free.
This could potentially go swimmingly, and I'll be up on the internet like, "Hey! Everyone! I just grew morel mushrooms indoors in a monotub and it wasn't even hard!"
That or like, "I got the morels to consolidate in the monotub, but even after exposing to daily window light and adding ash water (or milk of magnesia), no fruiting bodies!"
The world may never know.
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Re: What If I Tried Growing Morels Indoors? [Re: Totodile386]
#26834269 - 07/20/20 01:13 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I was looking though my books for an excerpt but I can’t seem to locate it. Maybe I’m mistaken, but I remember reading something about certain microflora for morels. I wonder if the information I got was dated. I’ll keep looking for it though
I did find a quote from this website which suggest some morels require a mature mycorrhizal association. I don’t know where they sourced their information. https://mushroommanofpeotone.patternbyetsy.com/post/386298626673/multiple-methods-for-cultivating-morel
“M. rufubrunnea is native to areas west of the Rocky mountains in the USA, and M. importuna is native to areas to the east. These species are typically selected for cultivation due to the fact that they do not require a mature association with a nearby host tree in order to produce mushrooms.”
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Totodile386
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Re: What If I Tried Growing Morels Indoors? [Re: Strainsfordaze]
#26834302 - 07/20/20 01:33 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Strainsfordaze said: https://mushroommanofpeotone.patternbyetsy.com/post/386298626673/multiple-methods-for-cultivating-morel
“M. rufubrunnea is native to areas west of the Rocky mountains in the USA, and M. importuna is native to areas to the east. These species are typically selected for cultivation due to the fact that they do not require a mature association with a nearby host tree in order to produce mushrooms.”
Whether this is fact or not, it is black morels that I wanted to grow.
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Re: What If I Tried Growing Morels Indoors? [Re: Totodile386]
#26834327 - 07/20/20 01:49 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Awesome! Well please let us know how it goes for you. I’m excited to see how it will work out.
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Re: What If I Tried Growing Morels Indoors? [Re: Strainsfordaze]
#26834374 - 07/20/20 02:23 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Totodile386
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Re: What If I Tried Growing Morels Indoors? [Re: Mycochopper]
#26835415 - 07/21/20 03:40 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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They use rice? Well, wheat flour should work fine. They're both carbs.
All they did to trigger fruiting, it looks like, was apply some wood ash on it.
Interesting. I will ask them if, since fruiting is believed to be caused by the alkalinity of ash, if milk of magnesia, in small amounts, can also trigger fruiting instead of wood ash.
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Re: What If I Tried Growing Morels Indoors? [Re: Totodile386]
#26838088 - 07/22/20 11:35 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is the standard monotub I have come up with.
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Re: What If I Tried Growing Morels Indoors? [Re: Totodile386]
#26846948 - 07/26/20 10:18 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Fine to experiment, but mycorrhizal. There are much easier mushrooms to grow. If you try
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Re: What If I Tried Growing Morels Indoors? [Re: Quadman]
#26849261 - 07/28/20 05:01 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Im going to try using apple pellets and supplement with soy hull.
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