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First Grow & Monotub Questions
#26833828 - 07/20/20 08:41 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hello Everyone
I am doing my first grow, and after 1 failed start (bad spores), I have successfully colonised a 1 x 3lb premium rye grain bags with B+. Colonisation took about 1 month to be fully complete.
Note: I live in a small 400sqft apartment so I am space limited but am making it work, I have big floor to ceiling windows that face north so should be good when it comes to fruiting & light.
My friend suggested I go the monotub route for a larger yield, and lent me his.


I also ordered a kit from the same supplier as the grow bags with a tub that's twice the size for another grow, and comes with bulk substrate, polyfill, vermiculite, and a light & trash liner.

I used a bulk substrate from the supplier above that contains Coco Coir, Vermiculite, Hydrated Lime, Gypsum, ph buffers, ph stabilizers, & mineral water.
I stuffed the 4 holes with polyfill so it was medium tight, about a golf ball sized chunk, and popped it in the cupboard.
After 1 week, the substrate appeared fully colonised

The tub was kept in a cupboard in the dark, and I misted the walls daily according to the kit instructions.
Now here is where I have questions.
The kit instructions say: "Mist the inside walls of the chamber with fresh clean water. Put the lid on tight. Make sure the entire container is in the dark. Use a blanket to keep it dark if you are using a clear container from one of our kits. Continue to mist the walls of the chamber on a daily basis to help ensure the humidity stays elevated."
However, I have read a bunch of posts on this site and others that say during colonisation you should just seal the tub and not open it again, which is correct? Have I done any harm by opening the tub daily to mist? I have kept a household temp/humidity monitor within the tub which has remained around 77f and 99% humidity.
After a week I have moved the tub from the cupboard and by a north facing window. Not much has happened in the last week but I have continued to mist the sides. I have read that some folks don't move to fruiting conditions until they see a few pins. Is this advisable? Did I move it too early?
The mycelium has small water droplets sitting on top of it (I did once accidentally mist the substrate but only once however these droplets were there before).
The tub only has holes in the top, that have had polyfil tightly packed during colonisation, which I have now reduced to half the amount so it's less tight. The tub doesn't have bottom holes, how much of an issue is that? I understand about FAE and exchanging CO2 and letting the less dense warmer air escape, how important is it to have bottom holes VS opening daily and fanning whilst misting? How long should one fan for?
I see some very small pins forming, so that's a good sign.
I have a central air system about 5 feet from the tub that sucks air in at about the level the tub is, and blows it out at about 9ft high, well above the tub, is this ok?
Thanks for reading so far, I will summarise my questions for easy answering:
1. Was opening the tub misting the walls during colonisation a bad idea? Should it be kept sealed? 2. Should I wait to see pins before moving to fruiting conditions? 3. Are water droplets on top of the mycelium anything to worry about? It's not pooled, just like morning dew on grass. 4. Is temp/humidity ok at 77f/99%? 5. Is not having bottom holes ok? How does this affect FAE if the top holes are loosely packed and the tub is opened daily to fan & mist? 6. How long should one fan for? Does one always mist or is it only if the sides are dry? 7. How will my central air system affect things? Air is being drawn in to the air system around the level where the tub is and blown out at about 9ft high. 10. Is there anything else I am doing wrong or not doing?
Thanks so much for your time.
Edited by uketernity (07/24/20 10:37 AM)
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26833861 - 07/20/20 09:12 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Opening the tub is fine, just extra air. The myc is supposed to have little water beads on it which then evaporate and this triggers pinning.
everything else seems fine so far. Lots of air is good as long as it’s not drying your surface out. You can adjust the stuffing in the holes if needed.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: A.k.a]
#26834358 - 07/20/20 02:12 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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If the substrate was hydrated properly there's no reason to open it up and mist it at any stage. The sub itself generates ~10F of heat while colonizing so keep that in mind while measuring temps- ultimately you want it anywhere from 75-85F, ideally. High humidity is also what you want. Don't stress a ton about where the holes are placed. I like to have a couple extra on the bottom of each side myself but monotubs are a KISS approach- they're really forgiving as long as your spawn and sub were on point.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: skullhuman]
#26834405 - 07/20/20 02:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks for the tips.
Yeah I checked the field capacity of the substrate and it was perfect before adding to the tub. Good to know that I don't need to mist whilst colonising, and I am assuming only need to mist whilst fruiting if it appears to be drying out. On that note, how does one tell if it's drying out, what does one look for?
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26835191 - 07/20/20 10:25 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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The myc will look all shriveled, thirsty, and dry, and any fruits will be small. As long as you hydrated to field capacity and maintain high humidity throughout the process your myc will not dry out.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: skullhuman]
#26837820 - 07/22/20 09:41 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I read that monotubs often have holes at the bottom near the substrate to allow for CO2 to escape. My tub doesn't have those holes, how necessary are they? Does fanning have the same effect of removing the CO2?
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26837850 - 07/22/20 09:54 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Also dont mist the walls. Walls dont grow mushrooms, the substrate does. If misting is needed, mist above the substrate and let the mist fall on to the surface.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: Gan]
#26837860 - 07/22/20 09:57 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Gan said: Also dont mist the walls. Walls dont grow mushrooms, the substrate does. If misting is needed, mist above the substrate and let the mist fall on to the surface.
Thanks for the feedback.
It's so hard to find consistent advice on this. One person says mist the walls to keep humidity up, another says don't mist the walls but spray over the substrate, another says don't spray the substrate, another says don't mist at all because the substrate should provide the moisture, another says open the tub twice a day and fan it, another says don't open the tub at all, another says if you have the tub dialed in you shouldn't need to open it, but maybe do if you want and mist/fan.
Quite a minefield of info.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26837913 - 07/22/20 10:17 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
uketernity said:
Thanks for the feedback.
It's so hard to find consistent advice on this. One person says mist the walls to keep humidity up, another says don't mist the walls but spray over the substrate, another says don't spray the substrate, another says don't mist at all because the substrate should provide the moisture, another says open the tub twice a day and fan it, another says don't open the tub at all, another says if you have the tub dialed in you shouldn't need to open it, but maybe do if you want and mist/fan.
Quite a minefield of info.
LOL for real. I've noticed the same thing
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: meowjinx]
#26837964 - 07/22/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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And to exacerbate you a little more, but give good advice (lol), don’t colonize in the dark. That’s old school stuff I guess from when people thought all mushrooms needed the same conditions. For cubensis in monotubs or shoe boxes you can just spawn them, and go directly into “fruiting conditions” which just means they should be getting light and some air right from the jump. Covering in a blanket is unjust and cruel
Kits often have some odd instructions. Check this out for some good reading and links to all kinds of up to date stuff https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24144021
And if you want to do shoe boxes which help with smaller spaces - https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26009662
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: meowjinx]
#26837977 - 07/22/20 10:48 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would say it's more of a matter of careful reading and good research. The only people that will say mist the walls are the ones that are following advice from a decade ago. There's no reason to mist the walls. The mushrooms react primarily based off the microclimate right above the substrate surface. There are dudes here that grow in places with like 10% RH. But, they keep good surface conditions, so it's not a problem.
You never want to spray directly on to the substrate. Only spray above it and let it fall down onto the substrate. Especially once you get pins.
Read what skullhuman said carefully. He said if you hydrate your substrate properly and dial in your conditions, then you wont have to mist. If it's your first or second grow, there's a good chance it is not hydrated perfectly. Therefore, you may have to mist. You will learn how much or little hydration your substrate needs with time and experience, as it is specific to your conditions and the way you dial in your tubs. For now, check your tubs. Are there glistening beads of water on the substrate? If so, then great no need to mist. Is the surface dry with no beads of water? Then mist that shit.
As for fanning, that's an outdated technique. The fresh air will exchange naturally, so there's no need to fan to excavate CO2 or anything else. You can fan if you want, but it wont help anything and will increase your chance of drying out your sub.
Check this link for how your surface should look. Follow it exactly! https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23999053
Like I said, careful reading and good researching skills will turn the minefield into an abundance of knowledge. Limit your search to nothing older than 3-5 years at least for the most up to date stuff.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26837994 - 07/22/20 10:56 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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In my houses climate it's good to mist the walls of the tub directly to keep the humidity in the container up. If I don't occasionally spray the walls then the edges if the sub get too dry compared to the center, even in a small shoebox size.
Gotta adjust your misting to your tubs needs depending on its size, heat, humidity, amount of air flow and where that air is coming in from.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: Gan]
#26838007 - 07/22/20 10:59 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks both of you for your helpful responses.
I purchased the substrate already pasteurised and hydrated. When I squeezed it some drops fell out, kinda like squeezing a mildy wet rag, maybe 5-10 drips which I understand is about right.
The surface looks exactly like those photos

I've got pins forming and seemingly doing well, so I guess whatever I am doing is working.
I have another tub that is colonising in the cupboard right now, in a larger tub with 10lb of substrate and 6lb of fully colonised 5-Grain Spawn Bags. It's almost all white.
Good to know I don't need to keep it in the cupboard, assuming it doesn't do it any harm though.
When do you move to fruiting conditions? I read some people says once it's all white, once you see knots, and also once you see pins. Is there any correct time? Or does it not matter as you don't really change anything assuming the conditions in the tub are right it should just *go* when ready.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26838033 - 07/22/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Most people have moved to the opinion of introducing fruiting conditions as soon as you spawn (as in as soon as you mix your colonized grain spawn and substrate and put it into the tub). Fruiting conditions just means allowing more FAE than normal. It's not something crazy like removing all stuffing from the holes and leaving the lid completely off. But, depending on how much fresh air exchange (FAE) you are allowing, it may just be cracking the lid or loosening the stuffing.
Most have found that there's not a difference in yield in introducing fruiting conditions immediately, but there is a difference in the time from spawning to the tub to harvest. Faster times are found when introducing fruiting conditions immediately.
But, I like to let people that have way more experience speak when I can. So here's a good thread introducing the idea. Let it take you down the rabbit hole: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24692251
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: Gan]
#26838346 - 07/22/20 01:35 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Interesting read, thanks for the tip.
Do you folks case cubes? I read there wasn't really any point and casing is usually best for edible mushrooms like oyster etc. I have some vermiculite but haven't used it yet. Afaik it's only needed to ensure humidity stays high, and it's on 99% according to my meter so don't see a point.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26838367 - 07/22/20 01:41 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nah I'd not bother with casing cubes in a monotub.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: skullhuman]
#26838813 - 07/22/20 05:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Only PE usually.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: A.k.a]
#26840348 - 07/23/20 11:01 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm actually going to try growing Penis Envy next, have some spores on the way.
Any advice/recommendations for growing them?
I have a couple of 5 grain premium spawn bags which I read should work for PE, and will be using a bulk substrate containing Coco Coir, Vermiculite, Hydrated Lime, Gypsum, ph buffers, ph stabilizers, & mineral water. I also have a bag of vermiculite for casing which it seems that PE requires to stop the mutant blobs.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26840534 - 07/23/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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There’s a couple good threads on it. I just let it consolidate a few days before fruiting and case it, besides that it’s the same.
I’d skip the lime, gypsum and buffers. Or use them on the casing, peat/verm mix works best. I just use jiffy mix right from the bag.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: A.k.a]
#26840552 - 07/23/20 12:30 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Turns out I accidentally ordered just rye spwan bags rather than the 5 grain. Will these work for PE?
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26840639 - 07/23/20 01:11 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Any spawn will work, PE is just like other cubes in every way except it takes longer to fruit.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: A.k.a]
#26842409 - 07/24/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Update: tub is looking awesome!
This was the tub yesterday:

And this is it today:

Does this look like everything is on track? Still figuring out how to tell if it has the right airflow and moisture, haven't been misting or fanning it for a few days and just left it.
I also have another tub of PF classic that looks like it's ready to fruit (I think)

This second tub has been colonising for 9 days in a cupboard. I've loosened the polyfill to about half what I had while in the cupboard and moved it onto a north windowsill.
Also I just inoculated 1 bag with PE and one with Treasure Coast.
Will report on a separate thread if/when I have progress.
Thanks for the help thus far.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26842441 - 07/24/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Looks alright to me. It’s crazy when they hit that growth spurt.
Pf classic took forever to pin for me. Idk if it’s normal or not. Mine were real short fat and ugly lol. And the densest shrooms I’ve ever had by far.
These all dried to 2-3g each.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: A.k.a]
#26842495 - 07/24/20 11:19 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Woah those look chunky.
I've made a second thread for my PF Classic grow with more detail on the steps. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=26842472&page=0&vc=#26842472
Any idea how long from here it should be to harvest?
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26843016 - 07/24/20 04:19 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hey
Couple of questions:
Is the fuzz around the bottom of the mushrooms anything to be worried about? Is this fuzzy feet?

Do I need to change anything?
Secondly, I noticed a couple of parches like this that seem like they dried out, is that the case?

See the middle of the photo, the slightly yellow patch.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26844179 - 07/25/20 08:23 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah just slightly fuzzy feet.
That little spot does look dried out. You will be surprised how ugly a sub gets after the first flush is harvested. If it was fairly dense anyway the whole sub will be a brown mess that doesn't hold glistening beads of water any longer lol.
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Ah right.
So my understanding is that fuzzy feet is a result of not enough FAE. Is that the case? So I remove some poly or is it something else? Thanks
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26844352 - 07/25/20 10:08 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I wouldn't even call those fuzzy feet really, they look fine. There's almost always some myc at the base of the stems. Some in the 2nd picture have a little more fuzz but still okay.
If it seems to be increasing then I might loosen the poly a bit but I don't think it's a big deal.
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Well, we have some harvesting to do!


I understand the ones with the black veil that's dropped are ready to harvest. I'd also like to collect some spores from these, do I pick ones that the veil hasn't broken or can I use the ones that have?
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26844479 - 07/25/20 11:42 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Niiice. Any of those with open caps are ready for printing. Even if one has already started dropping spores you can get plenty from it. They will keep dropping for a while.
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Cool.
Harvest all the open and some of the big ones that look like they’re about to open. Got 261 grams for about half the container

They’re in the dehydrator now. It runs at 160f, my understanding is that heat losing potency isn’t a thing now and that level of heat is fine.
How long do you run the dehydrator for?
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26844754 - 07/25/20 02:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Depends on shroom size, how full it is and your climate. Usually 12-24 hours.
I have like zero humidity so small and medium ones will be done in four hours but thick ones still take 15-20.
When you think they’re done weigh them and then put them back in for another couple hours and weigh again. If they stayed the same they were done the first time if they lost weight you gotta keep going.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: A.k.a]
#26844771 - 07/25/20 02:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's a little more humid where I'm at so I pretty much always go 24 hours. Sometimes I'll stop around 20 if I need to start another batch.
I usually end up starting the run in the evening, I'll weigh a few of the bigger mushrooms in the morning after about 10-12 hours and then go to work. When I come home the big ones have often lost .1 - .3 g in weight during the 9-10 hours I'm gone.
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I do the same thing a lot of times, throw them in before bed.
This fucker I just picked last week holds the record for longest drying time. Like 30 hours. I didn’t split it and so it ended up drying into a shell with a wet middle. I thought PE took too long to dry until this thing.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: A.k.a]
#26844782 - 07/25/20 03:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's Pf classic? That is a dense specimen my friend. Do you remember what it dried to?
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Yeah man the whole tub was like that. I think it was like 5.8 dry.
Even these little ones were all 22-30g wet.

They dried out to perfect bite size doses lol.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: A.k.a]
#26847475 - 07/27/20 09:28 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well, first harvest done

670g wet, 60g dried! 🥳
Here's the tub:

There are still some small pins from the first flush, and some blue bits on the base/stalk, anything to worry about? Should I leave them or remove?
Now, I've read various people dunk after the first flush to rehydrate the substrate, but others just mist a whole bunch.
Any advice on which I should do? Can I dunk by just pouring a cup of water down the sides of the substrate between that and the lining and letting it soak it up, repeat until no longer soaking up? Or should I submerge entirely? Or neither?
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26847713 - 07/27/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Submerging usually gets the job done better, but I use shoeboxes with no lining. Tubs with lining, IDK, it might get messy. Most people judge by weight, how much rehydrating is needed. If it's lost a lot of weight, even repeated misting is not going to be enough.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: Brian Jones]
#26847806 - 07/27/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ok, I might try putting some water down the side. I've boiled some water and let it cool so will try that and see how it goes.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26875038 - 08/11/20 12:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I ended up dunking for 2 hours after my first flush and got a second flush of 37g vs 60g dry for the first flush.
Should I re-dunk after the 2nd flush?
I also tried them out last weekend, they're not super strong, although I did consume roughly 5-6g in about 2g doses over 6 hours and had a fun trip, but not a 6g level rocket to the moon trip. My understanding is that psychedelics don't really "stack up" if you take more after a certain point. Does anyone have any advice on this?
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26876951 - 08/12/20 01:57 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey y'all
So my 3rd flush of these are turning out weird and stubby

I dunked after my 2nd flush for 24h and taped up the holes with micropore tape. The humidity is struggling to stay up, the sides of the tub don't have condensation on them like they used to.
I read somewhere that short and stubby like this is usually an indication of not enough FAE but I don't have a definitive answer. I've removed half the tape from the holes to allow more FAE. Any other advice?
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26877042 - 08/12/20 02:56 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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That looks like it’s just about used up.
They start growing weird when the tub is almost spent.
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#26877046 - 08/12/20 02:57 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ah gotcha.
Out of curiosity, what would happen if you broke it up and mixed it with fresh substrate? Would it keep going?
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26877060 - 08/12/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Probably for a little bit.
It’s probably also from being waterlogged, I won’t dunk for more than a couple hours now because I had problems with the next flush being too wet.
Idk how much weight you’ve harvested but it looks like the sub has shrank a lot.
This was one I let go seven flushes and it started growing weird around five.
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#26877061 - 08/12/20 03:10 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh right.
It was hard to find up-to-date info on whether to dunk after the first, or the second flush. And if so how long to dunk for. I read stuff that said 24h so did that. 😞
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26877146 - 08/12/20 04:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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24 hours is a very long dunk. I’ve forgotten subs for like 16-18 hours and they were all soggy and most triched out afterwards. I like 2-3 hours.
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Well I managed to get 3 flushes out of the tub so far, weighing in at:
60g 37g 28g
However I now have mould:

I've cut it out with a flamed clean knife, is there any way to save this? Looks like there's mould over the surface of the tub on the pins. I read about hydrogen peroxide (which I have) can be diluted and sprayed but wanna make sure.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26884519 - 08/17/20 09:26 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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You could try cutting a huge area out, but there’s no point really. After three flushes there’s not much left.
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#26884522 - 08/17/20 09:28 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah that was my thought.
Figured now would be a good time to experiment with mould control though. Any advice on how I can kill the mould and not the myc, even if it's just to see how moult treatment works.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26884534 - 08/17/20 09:34 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Also, if anyone can identify the type of mould here (green surrounded by white) I'd appreciate that, so I can do some research and read up about it. If my research is correct it looks like Trichoderma harzianum.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26884560 - 08/17/20 09:48 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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That’s trich.
You could maybe keep the top 20% of the sub but even that’s iffy. Trich is fast and once you see that much it’s usually already everywhere.
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#26884586 - 08/17/20 10:07 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah I do wonder if it's done. The small pins on the other side of the tub have white fluff on them that's not myc.
Should I just chuck it?
Do I need to do anything else? This tub was sitting on top mu other tub which is going very slowly after the 1st flush after I dunked it for 24h, only 3 shrooms and not really any pins.
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#26884971 - 08/17/20 01:58 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Also to note is the white fuzz on the pins, is that trich or something else? How do I get rid of it?
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26884983 - 08/17/20 02:05 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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We call em fuzzy feet. It's a sign they want nore fresh air
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: tryptkaloids]
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@tryptkaloids are you sure?
I've had fuzzy feet on my other mushrooms but never all over the top of the pins before they're mature, e.g.

The tub did fine for the first 2 flushes with the same FAE setup. The 3rd flush had stubby mutant shrooms, some with holes in the stem where they'd split.

They contained a much higher water content than the previous 2 flushes as they went from 400g to 28g dry, whereas the others went from 600g to 60g.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26884997 - 08/17/20 02:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh i didn't see a pic you were referring to. Sounds like they were aborted and are turning back into myc.
The mutatuons you referred to are usually due to an oversaturated substrate
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: tryptkaloids]
#26885004 - 08/17/20 02:16 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well that would make sense, I dunked for 24h which I've subsequently been told was too long, and would explain the high water content and stubby nature of the mushrooms.
So if I manage to control the trich then it sounds like this will continue to fruit?
On a separate note, I have another tub that I also dunked for 24h after the 1st flush and it's not really doing anything, I posted about it here https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=26885002&page=0&vc=#26885002
If anyone can offer any advice on how I can get it to go, I'd appreciate it.
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#26885044 - 08/17/20 02:34 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Dump the trich tub or you WILL regret it.
Be patient with the other one. It might be exhausted. How old is it?
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: tryptkaloids]
#26885050 - 08/17/20 02:36 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Out of curiosity, what could happen if I keep the trich tub?
The other tub is 2 weeks younger than this tub. I got a good first flush off it of about 1kg wet, then I dunked about 2 weeks ago, and it's not really done anything since.
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Re: First Grow & Monotub Questions [Re: uketernity]
#26885054 - 08/17/20 02:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just wait, its almost there. Keeping a moldy tub around vastly increases the spore load in your house and can sabotage future grows. The more mold spores around the more likely they'll get into your work
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