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OfflineSpartacus
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Cheeto mycelium, what's happening here?
    #26833375 - 07/19/20 10:31 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

My small monotub has become very yellow. Is it metabolites? Is it just dryness? The black parts are just spore load from thw enormous caps from the first flush. This one has been stalled for almost a month, but doesn't seem contaminated and some small fruits seem to be forming. Are they cool even with cheeto mycelium? Halp



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Re: Cheeto mycelium, what's happening here? [Re: Spartacus]
    #26833424 - 07/19/20 11:13 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Curious how much spawn you used and what kinda dry weight you've ended up with from your single "flush". This looks like vomit art.

There's really nothing that can be done about this except get it faaaar from your grow area. I would actually consider throwing something like that directly into a bonfire, tub and all.
Review procedures and figure out where it all went south. I see a bit of uncolonized areas and it pretty obviously was dirty spawn. Did you start with a clean culture?

Any other advice will likely just be other creative ways of making that tub fuck off.


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Re: Cheeto mycelium, what's happening here? [Re: El Chupacabra]
    #26833657 - 07/20/20 05:42 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Thank you for responding. It certainly looks terrible! However, I am not so certain that it is contamination from my spawn. The first flush produced the nicest shrooms I have thus far grown, pictured below.

I did PF tek to bulk coir, which I know is not the cleanest method. 18 jars cheese grated (I know) into a standard coir brick's worth of substrate. Some of the other tubs succumbed to what appeared to be trichoderma, but they produced fruit and only were contaminated after.



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Re: Cheeto mycelium, what's happening here? [Re: Spartacus]
    #26833701 - 07/20/20 06:38 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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This one has been stalled for almost a month, but doesn't seem contaminated and some small fruits seem to be forming.




It DOES seem contaminated. It's actually catastrophic.


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Re: Cheeto mycelium, what's happening here? [Re: KuroNeko]
    #26833713 - 07/20/20 06:51 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

It’s either soaked from misting or covered in bacteria goo.


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Re: Cheeto mycelium, what's happening here? [Re: A.k.a]
    #26833807 - 07/20/20 08:25 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Some yellowing of the substrate after the first flush is normal. That looks a little excessive, possibly due to being soaked too much. Either way I don’t think it’s contamed (yet) just keep an eye on it. Of course every flush is at risk of contam so it’s always best to aim to get as much as possible in the first flush. I prefer to get everything in the first myself. More yield up front is always more yield up front.


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Re: Cheeto mycelium, what's happening here? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26833832 - 07/20/20 08:47 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Some yellowing, sure. In this case, excessive yellowing is an understatement.
Only speaking from my own experiences, and I think everyone and their momma knows pasty has fuck tons MORE experience than me but IME subs like that are abort city then the mean green sets in.
As far as saying it doesn't look contamd yet, c'mon. It may not look moldy yet but it definitely looks bacterial as fuck. I mean isn't that why healthy cube mycelium turns yellow is because of contamination causing the myc to produce metabolites?
Hopefully you still have more spores or were able to get a spore print from the first flush.


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Re: Cheeto mycelium, what's happening here? [Re: El Chupacabra]
    #26833849 - 07/20/20 09:03 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I was surprised to see Pasty disregard this too. True he has fuck tons more experience and I bow to him but I would risk betting my cat that if it's not already bacterial slime it will be within 48 hours.


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Re: Cheeto mycelium, what's happening here? [Re: KuroNeko]
    #26833959 - 07/20/20 10:11 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

It can mold out at any time, that’s potentially true of any substrate at any time. But I’ve seen later flush tubs that looked rough af and keep on going. One and done is always my preference but you guys sound like some nervous nuns :lol:


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Re: Cheeto mycelium, what's happening here? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26833997 - 07/20/20 10:36 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Well if it's been stalled for over a month and the sub looks like that right now then I stand with the N Korean lol.. Kuro, I see your pet cat and raise you 3 pitbulls.

...sound like nervous nuns
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OP, you got any pics of those fruits?


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Re: Cheeto mycelium, what's happening here? [Re: El Chupacabra]
    #26834004 - 07/20/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

:smbfacepalm:

Shit I missed where it’s stalled for a month, my bad. Still doesn’t mean it’s contamed, more likely it’s just spent. Bacteria isn’t in and of itself usually the death of the colony, it’s mold that does it in most of the time.


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Re: Cheeto mycelium, what's happening here? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26834039 - 07/20/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

We may be looking at it with different eyes and different screens. To me it looks too shiny and slimey. Only way to be sure is to touch it which we can't.

I will be germinating some RustyWhytes tonight (it's past midnight in North Korea). I'm curious, any tips as to how to handle them?


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Re: Cheeto mycelium, what's happening here? [Re: KuroNeko]
    #26834068 - 07/20/20 11:33 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

They are cubes. Just keep the conditions good and avoid super high spawn ratios. 1:3 is what I do.


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Re: Cheeto mycelium, what's happening here? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26834081 - 07/20/20 11:42 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Damn im doing 1:1 + top layer with all my shoeboxes since i started, will try 1:2 and 1:3 now.


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Re: Cheeto mycelium, what's happening here? [Re: 0ptiquest] * 2
    #26834092 - 07/20/20 11:47 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

1:1 is a total waste of spawn IMO. You can’t supply nearly enough water to make the most of the nutes at that ratio.


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Re: Cheeto mycelium, what's happening here? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26834130 - 07/20/20 12:11 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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1:1 is a total waste of spawn IMO. You can’t supply nearly enough water to make the most of the nutes at that ratio.



That is AWESOME to know.  Short advice like that goes a long fuckin way.  Thanks for that PASTY great point  :bow2:


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