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DMT Experience First Few times
#26833271 - 07/19/20 09:24 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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So about a month ago I finally dabbled into the DMT I’ve been holding onto for a few years and wow did it knock me back. I’ve had quite a diversity of drugs in my life but DMT makes them all feel like child’s play. I vaporized it in my volcano four times over a period of two weeks, a couple things I noticed was I found there was a difference in experience if I did it at night vs during the morning/afternoon. Anyone else notice this?
My first experience was quite novice in entry and I reached a room with a throne to which a “being” was sitting in, almost surprised and curious about my entrance. After meeting this “being” I was launched into “space”. Trip time was not recorded. Trip was around 11am. I immediately took a 1.5g dose of P.E and was quite surprised by the experience. Definitely some strange overlap happened, nothing that I can note with certainty though.
Second experience with DMT was at 9pm and was much larger. I took four big hauls out of the bag and the fourth was when everything was crystallizing. I laid down and heard this screeching/cackling sound in my ears and entered in a room where many “beings” were. Way too many. I was very intimidated and very scared. Everything would pulsate in and out and every time it did I was closer to “them”. Until they surrounded me. I had never been so scared before in my life and I freaked the fuck out. I left the room with the beings and was just being shown so much but I couldn’t see because my fear had overtaken the situation and I had to remain focused on my breathing to calm myself down. It definitely felt like I had left my body and the body was quite in discourse over it. Consciously I was shook but my body even more so. The experience was what I’d identify with as “alien abduction” not saying it was, but when I envision an abduction, that’d be what it would feel like in my eyes.
Third experience was in the morning around 9am and I really meditated and set up for positive relations in my next experience. I was quite frightened to enter into the DMT realm again and it took a lot of courage to get to the third time. So I take a little less than I did the second time and came to the room with the beings. This time I really focused and tried to see what these “beings” looked like while they constantly flashed in and out of existence. I caught a glimpse and the best way to describe it was grey/holographic green and very oval shaped kind of like a fat bowling pin with no arms and two black beaty eyes. There was a smaller figure shadowed outlined in green that “floated” directly toward me. It seemed like a child and like I could trust it. I also got the feeling though as if they were trying to deceive me to trust them.
Fourth and final experience Was at night around 7pm. Everything up until this point had been on the left side of my view. It was always in my left view when seeing into the DMT realm. This trip I finally arrived on the right side. Before the trip I meditated quite heavily on loving-kindness to produce positive relations in my experience. This time the trip interaction was on the right side of my view and a glowing yellow light appeared. It wasn’t blinding and I just watched it in awe and flash, a golden Buddha meditating appeared with his eyes closed. He signalled to me as if he was busy and need not be disturbed right now. I then left that “area” and was again launched through the universe (best way I can describe it?) and on my left is red weird almost Aztec art and on the right is green Aztec art and separating them is a thick seam. I don’t know how to explain it.
Reason I am sharing this experience is I am hoping to find anyone that has felt or seen anything similar to these experiences? Or any tips for further experiences? I’ve always done it alone in my room as I have a hard time leaving my body/consciousness vulnerable around others during the experience. After the four experiences my anxiety is drastically reduced, it still appears but fades very very quickly. Mushroom trips have been almost unbearable since as way too much weird shit happens now, almost as if I’m being stalked by these “being’s” on psilocybe Lol!! It sounds crazy but it’s like I can’t faintly see them and feel them in the background when I’m on mushrooms now. I laid off the psychedelics for a while too and returned and was still there. Completely fine sober and on weed though lol. Thoughts?
Sorry lots to blurb here, quite an amount of vomit. I have no psychedelic friends so I haven’t been able to talk to anyone about this and my curiosity of similar experiences out there is killing me!
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Re: DMT Experience First Few times [Re: VolcanoCybe]
#26833359 - 07/19/20 10:24 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I use a volcano too. I think it's a very good way to do it but it's hard to finish a whole bag of vapor and hold the hits in properly before you're gone. Since the vapor stays good for a while I usually just have it nearby to take more hits throughout the trip if I'm conscious enough to. But even then it's almost not fast enough to get where I'd like to be. Maybe try smoking it out of a friend's bong and see how that compares. If you want to go further you could also get some harmalas to increase the potency, works for mushrooms too. Then 3-4 hits off the volcano could easily get you through.
What is your setting like besides meditating for good vibes beforehand? I find that acoustic music can set a tone and pace to the trip, the visuals seem to have more order and synchronicity to them which is more pleasing to me. Here's a good song that never fails.
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Re: DMT Experience First Few times [Re: Icon]
#26833378 - 07/19/20 10:33 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Appreciate the reply and the advice! My beforehand ritual is basically meditating for 30 min to an hour. I put my noise cancelling headphones on and listen to natural sounds or shamanistic music. I also use an eye pillow when I lay down and a gravity/weighted blanket that goes over my body. I also have this salt rock lamp that I turn on and a crystal for more positivity. I use everything I possibly can to help make it positive after that second trip. One thing I’d really be interested in is fucking with my diet or fasting beforehand.
And ya it’s definitely hard to get all the vapid from the bag before it crystallizes in there. I have the volcano hybrid so I’ve pondered using the whip system and seeing how that goes.
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Re: DMT Experience First Few times [Re: VolcanoCybe]
#26833428 - 07/19/20 11:18 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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oh shit definitely try it and let me know. I've been considering upgrading, I think it would work perfectly.
Also if the dmt is a few years old it could be fairly oxidized. Still works but IME, dirty or oxidized vs clean dmt is like night vs day.
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Re: DMT Experience First Few times [Re: Icon]
#26833437 - 07/19/20 11:26 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hybrid is pretty sweet, especially the whip system for weed. Didn’t know old DMT had an effect on the high. I just received some hostilis root bark and was thinking of whipping up some new DMT and some Changa. Scared to tried Changa or Ayahuasca as 5-10 on DMT is more than long enough for me. Ever had either?
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Re: DMT Experience First Few times [Re: VolcanoCybe]
#26833827 - 07/20/20 08:41 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yea I've had both. Ayahuasca is A1. Doesn't sound like you've had a really vibrant or positive DMT experience yet, but when you do you'll see why 3-4 hours of it sounds like a great opportunity. Ayahuasca doesn't feel nearly as rushed as smoking it. You can dial in a variety of doses and have several hours of bliss that's comparable to a shroom/acid trip.
Changa is meant to be a smokeable mini-ayahuasca but it really doesn't work that well if you smoke the harmalas. Eating the harmala first and then smoking DMT is perhaps the most intense thing you can do though. I'd recommend that with the volcano bag, since one hit is pretty light off the bag and each hit will be consistent density. 3-4 puffs will take you a lot further while also having more control since you're not forcing your hits against the clock. The window of opportunity is much larger when you're on an MAOI.
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#26834157 - 07/20/20 12:25 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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What was your setting for the Ayahuasca trip? Thanks for the MAOI tip. Duly noted. Any tips on calming yourself down if Ayahuasca went south?
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Re: DMT Experience First Few times [Re: VolcanoCybe]
#26834423 - 07/20/20 02:50 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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VolcanoCybe said: What was your setting for the Ayahuasca trip? Thanks for the MAOI tip. Duly noted. Any tips on calming yourself down if Ayahuasca went south?
Lemon Balm tea (3 to 4.5 grams) with the Aya, if going for oral DMT one could sip on the DMT-containing liquid over about 10 to 20 minutes for a gentler come up, if feeling overwhelmed listen to some good music with headphones (preferably instrument music), lay back, breathe, relax, let go/surrender, also Tobacco can come in handy for grounding, either smoked Tobacco or like some Tobacco leaf snuffed/insufflated. But for me personally, Lemon Balm and music really goes a long, long way with Aya.
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#26834441 - 07/20/20 03:02 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I want to note the difference between Ayahuasca and Pharmahuasca. Aya is the traditional brew of plants in a tea that you drink. When I refer to Aya tho I really mean pharmahuasca, which is the purified maoi and dmt salts in a capsule. I've tried Aya a half dozen times and no matter the setting it either made me puke before things really started or didn't do anything. There's a lot of trial and error with Ayahuasca, since there's no way to weigh how much maoi or dmt is actually in the tea. You could have an overwhelming trip, or bunk trip and not know it until hours later.
I highly recommend pharmahuasca because you can weigh it on a scale and know exactly what you're getting into. Virtually wipes out the nausea too since you're not drinking the tannins and other plant gunk. So that's my big tip on avoiding the 'south' side of an Aya trip entirely. When starting out, it's nice to have a trusted friend to trip with or a sober tripsitter to help keep things smooth. My favorite Aya experience was in a group of 8 people and we had an entire music studio/warehouse to ourselves to be creative in. That really helped set a carefree setting. Camping would probably be a similarly freeing setting.
If you start with a low dose there's really not much risk of freaking out tho. Once you're more comfortable, solo trips with the same setting you prepare for your DMT trips would be great. I do pharma in my bedroom and dude it makes weed taste soo much better, especially off the volcano where all the flavors are coming out already. I think cannabis synergizes really well and can be used to ground yourself with its anti-psychotic effects while also catalyzing the trippy CEV's.
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Re: DMT Experience First Few times [Re: VolcanoCybe]
#26834588 - 07/20/20 04:45 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi VolcanoCybe. I'll start by saying that in my experience entities have never played a central role in my experience as they never interacted with me (the only exception being on oral DMT). I'm pretty sensitive so for me it's easy to go from smoking too little to having ego dissolution.
This being said, my first smoking experience has been with changa (DMT+MAOI), and when I managed to extract I felt surprised by the difference. Freebase DMT had an alien vibe that I found interesting, and somewhat pleasant, but also more "forced" than the one I got from changa. And I can easily imagine how during some breakthroughs it would feel unpleasant or disturbing.
So my advice is, maybe try to add some B. caapi extract to the DMT. The effects will last a little bit more, but the experience will also be smoother. Another thing I've noticed is that smoking it in a natural environment will give the trip an organic vibe. This is of course based on my experience and on the ones of few friends. It could be totally different for you.
And remember that with DMT it's never how you expect for it to be, and it's better to be open to every possibility. Some tension is normal, but if you start feeling anxious when you're about to smoke it, then it's better to take a break from it. I know it's a very short trip, but it's not wise to smoke it too often anyway.
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#26834607 - 07/20/20 05:01 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is all very great info thank you thank you thank you. I definitely won't be drinking a brew of my own Ayahuasca I will just make Aya as you suggest. Definitely sounds way more controlled. I was probably going to extract my MAOI from Caspian seeds. Any idea on dosage for light trip vs medium trip vs strong trip for a dmt/MAOI ratio?
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