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4 dying Canadians wait to hear if they'll be allowed to try magic mushrooms for their anguish
    #26832817 - 07/19/20 04:14 PM (26 days, 3 hours ago)

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/4-dying-canadians-wait-to-hear-if-they-ll-be-allowed-to-try-magic-mushrooms-for-their-anguish-1.5653083

It's been about three months since four dying Canadians filed applications with the federal government asking for the right to try magic mushrooms to treat the psychological distress that comes with facing the end of their lives.

The psychedelic fungi have shown promise in relieving some of the anxiety and depression faced by those suffering with terminal cancer, but the active ingredient psilocybin is still undergoing clinical trials.

Victoria psychotherapist Bruce Tobin, founder of the advocacy group TheraPsil, says completing those trials is absolutely necessary before magic mushrooms can be made widely available.

But he believes terminally ill patients deserve compassionate access to something that might help with their anguish when other treatments have failed.

"Canadian society now acknowledges that citizens have the right to die," Tobin told CBC News, referring to the legalization of medical assistance in dying.

"How is it that we're going to allow them to die when they affirm that their lives are intolerable, but we won't acknowledge their right to try something that could allow them to continue their life in a meaningful way?"

Research is currently underway to determine if psilocybin is safe and effective to treat things like depression, obsessive compulsive disorder and substance use disorder. Two studies published in 2016 suggest that treatment with psilocybin can produce significant and lasting improvements in depression and anxiety for cancer patients.

'I'm so scared and angry'
TheraPsil has helped the four cancer patients file Section Section 56 applications under the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act to obtain psilocybin. The law gives the health minister the power to grant access to illegal drugs when "necessary for a medical or scientific purpose or is otherwise in the public interest."

In a video filmed by TheraPsil, Laurie Brooks, an Abbotsford nurse and mother of four, describes the feelings she's experienced since learning her cancer is terminal.

"I'm so scared and angry, and I feel guilty and ashamed that I'm putting my family through this," she tells the camera.

Brooks, who was not available for an interview with CBC, says she learned about the potential therapeutic uses of psilocybin from a documentary, and she was struck by a fellow cancer patient who "looked so peaceful" after receiving the drug.

The patients have yet to receive a response. A Health Canada spokesperson said in an email that she was unable to comment on individual applications, but the length of each review depends on the complexity of the case and the completeness of the application.

"The Government of Canada has great empathy for individuals living with a terminal illness and their needs for care and treatment. Health Canada is committed to carefully and thoroughly reviewing each ... request relating to psilocybin on a case-by-case basis," the spokesperson said.

Health Canada also has a special access program that allows practitioners to request access to drugs that aren't currently available in this country "for treating patients with serious or life-threatening conditions when conventional treatments have failed, are unsuitable or are unavailable."

"It would seem that that program was tailor made for both psilocybin and for the patients that we seek to treat," Tobin said.

But restricted drugs like psilocybin aren't available through the program, a stipulation that Tobin describes as "arbitrary and unscientific."

Previous application rejected
Three years ago, Tobin applied for a more sweeping exemption from Canadian law that would allow him to use psilocybin to treat any terminal cancer patient suffering from end-of-life distress so severe it interferes with other medical treatments and that hasn't responded to other available therapies.

Health Canada rejected his application in a letter on March 3, saying that there is "insufficient evidence" to support an exemption, and that "psilocybin can be accessed through other means" — specifically, through clinical trials.

Tobin disagrees with that assessment and plans to officially dispute it.

He points to a 2015 decision from the Supreme Court of Canada that struck down restrictions on the use of non-dried forms of medical cannabis.

That judgment states that "by forcing a person to choose between a legal but inadequate treatment and an illegal but more effective one, the law ... infringes security of the person."

Tobin remains hopeful that the federal government will grant the patients' requests for psilocybin, but if it doesn't happen, TheraPsil plans to file a constitutional challenge.

"I'm going to be saddened to see my government's health minister be in a position of denying dying people something that there's evidence to show could be helpful for them," he said.


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Re: 4 dying Canadians wait to hear if they'll be allowed to try magic mushrooms for their anguish [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #26833581 - 07/20/20 03:51 AM (25 days, 16 hours ago)

Lets hope and pray they are permitted


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Re: 4 dying Canadians wait to hear if they'll be allowed to try magic mushrooms for their anguish [Re: mescalinechemist]
    #26833600 - 07/20/20 04:07 AM (25 days, 15 hours ago)

This is what happens when you let your governments control your food, water and medicine.
They could give two shits about your health and well being. If you want to heal yourself and get access to medicine, do what you have to, don't try and be a good little slave.


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Re: 4 dying Canadians wait to hear if they'll be allowed to try magic mushrooms for their anguish [Re: PsychoReactive]
    #26834066 - 07/20/20 11:32 AM (25 days, 8 hours ago)

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This is what happens when you let your governments control your food, water and medicine.
They could give two shits about your health and well being. If you want to heal yourself and get access to medicine, do what you have to, don't try and be a good little slave.




Your quite right to live in fear is to be a slave. And there is no prison more complete then the one you make in your own mind.


There are lots of people who really do care and are trying to make this world a better place, for everyone not just themselves. And then there are assholes like Trump who make the world a worse place because of their greed and ideology. Be the change you want to see but don't be so entitled that you hurt others in doing so.


In Canada our government allows all adults to use Cannabis! Twenty years ago the only people allowed to use cannabis in Canada were the terminally ill. Those people were trying to help others even while they were dying! They are true heroes!


Either life is getting better and the glass is half full or its half empty and your time is running out. Being happy is literally your choice!


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Re: 4 dying Canadians wait to hear if they'll be allowed to try magic mushrooms for their anguish [Re: rider420] * 2
    #26834138 - 07/20/20 12:16 PM (25 days, 7 hours ago)

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rider420 said:
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PsychoReactive said:
This is what happens when you let your governments control your food, water and medicine.
They could give two shits about your health and well being. If you want to heal yourself and get access to medicine, do what you have to, don't try and be a good little slave.




Your quite right to live in fear is to be a slave. And there is no prison more complete then the one you make in your own mind.


There are lots of people who really do care and are trying to make this world a better place, for everyone not just themselves. And then there are assholes like Trump who make the world a worse place because of their greed and ideology. Be the change you want to see but don't be so entitled that you hurt others in doing so.


In Canada our government allows all adults to use Cannabis! Twenty years ago the only people allowed to use cannabis in Canada were the terminally ill. Those people were trying to help others even while they were dying! They are true heroes!


Either life is getting better and the glass is half full or its half empty and your time is running out. Being happy is literally your choice!




Trump, Clinton, Bush, Putin... they are all Zi0nist puppets serving Israel first and American people last.
They are actors, nothing more nothing less.

The only good presidents and royal family we had were murdered (Lincoln, Kennedy, Russian Tsar Romanov family etc).

Yes, there are many good people in this world but when the government works for the global elite swine that controls the Federal reserve and the money supply, thing will always be tough for the average Joe Blow.

Natural medicine should be free for all to access but the powers that be keep it off general public's access while making billions from toxic drugs.


Edited by PsychoReactive (07/20/20 12:18 PM)


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Re: 4 dying Canadians wait to hear if they'll be allowed to try magic mushrooms for their anguish [Re: PsychoReactive]
    #26834253 - 07/20/20 01:08 PM (25 days, 6 hours ago)

Anyone who thinks that the liberals legalized cannabis because it was the right thing to do needs a reality check. They did it to grab votes from youth and get in on that sweet sin tax revenue stream. If it was about morality they would be issuing pardons and releasing people em mass.

IMO there isn’t much difference on the psychedelic front either. It’s not about the people’s well being, it’s about money and control.


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Re: 4 dying Canadians wait to hear if they'll be allowed to try magic mushrooms for their anguish [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26834393 - 07/20/20 02:38 PM (25 days, 5 hours ago)

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Anyone who thinks that the liberals legalized cannabis because it was the right thing to do needs a reality check. They did it to grab votes from youth and get in on that sweet sin tax revenue stream. If it was about morality they would be issuing pardons and releasing people em mass.

IMO there isn’t much difference on the psychedelic front either. It’s not about the people’s well being, it’s about money and control.





While I completely agree with you I have to think that progress is progress despite what motives may be. I think you truly nailed the fact that the politicians only make these moves to improve there numbers, but if that gives me access to medical marijuana or terminally ill patients access to psychedelics then I still see that as progress.


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Re: 4 dying Canadians wait to hear if they'll be allowed to try magic mushrooms for their anguish [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26834511 - 07/20/20 03:39 PM (25 days, 4 hours ago)

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Anyone who thinks that the liberals legalized cannabis because it was the right thing to do needs a reality check. They did it to grab votes from youth and get in on that sweet sin tax revenue stream. If it was about morality they would be issuing pardons and releasing people em mass.

IMO there isn’t much difference on the psychedelic front either. It’s not about the people’s well being, it’s about money and control.




100% on point. :raisemyglass:


Democrats and liberals are the worst scum bags and hypocrites there are. They are first and foremost communists who will destroy the west as we know it.


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Re: 4 dying Canadians wait to hear if they'll be allowed to try magic mushrooms for their anguish [Re: PsychoReactive]
    #26835480 - 07/21/20 05:53 AM (24 days, 14 hours ago)

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PsychoReactive said:
This is what happens when you let your governments control your food, water and medicine.
They could give two shits about your health and well being. If you want to heal yourself and get access to medicine, do what you have to, don't try and be a good little slave.





Yeah, because corporations never impede anyones access to food and medicine.


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Re: 4 dying Canadians wait to hear if they'll be allowed to try magic mushrooms for their anguish [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26835481 - 07/21/20 05:54 AM (24 days, 14 hours ago)

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Anyone who thinks that the liberals legalized cannabis because it was the right thing to do needs a reality check. They did it to grab votes from youth and get in on that sweet sin tax revenue stream. If it was about morality they would be issuing pardons and releasing people em mass.

IMO there isn’t much difference on the psychedelic front either. It’s not about the people’s well being, it’s about money and control.




Thats a feature not a glitch, welcome to democracy. The very last thing you would want the government to be doing is ignoring what the voters want in order to do the "right" thing.

You think the GOP is operating on their morals? You think they are politicking in good faith? There is a reason why their base is made up of a plurality of 1 issue voters, many of which have seemingly no overlap or are even at odds with each other, and no matter how much control they wield...they never deliver on a single 1 of these single issues, possibly because they know promising to fix it gets more votes than actually doing that.

I mean, do you even hear yourself? You are trashing the party largely responsible for progress on the cannabis front...while letting the party that stood in their way off scot-free. Not to mention their hypocrisy on government spending and personal liberty.


Edited by Holybullshit (07/21/20 06:07 AM)


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Re: 4 dying Canadians wait to hear if they'll be allowed to try magic mushrooms for their anguish [Re: PsychoReactive]
    #26835491 - 07/21/20 06:07 AM (24 days, 13 hours ago)

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PsychoReactive said:Democrats and liberals are the worst scum bags and hypocrites there are. They are first and foremost communists who will destroy the west as we know it.




....because democrats are the ones who have created an unaccountable, unidentifiable police force wielding assault rifles and wearing masks to go kidnap protesters off the street in unmarked vehicles.


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Re: 4 dying Canadians wait to hear if they'll be allowed to try magic mushrooms for their anguish [Re: Holybullshit]
    #26835635 - 07/21/20 08:10 AM (24 days, 11 hours ago)

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Anyone who thinks that the liberals legalized cannabis because it was the right thing to do needs a reality check. They did it to grab votes from youth and get in on that sweet sin tax revenue stream. If it was about morality they would be issuing pardons and releasing people em mass.

IMO there isn’t much difference on the psychedelic front either. It’s not about the people’s well being, it’s about money and control.




Thats a feature not a glitch, welcome to democracy. The very last thing you would want the government to be doing is ignoring what the voters want in order to do the "right" thing.

You think the GOP is operating on their morals? You think they are politicking in good faith? There is a reason why their base is made up of a plurality of 1 issue voters, many of which have seemingly no overlap or are even at odds with each other, and no matter how much control they wield...they never deliver on a single 1 of these single issues, possibly because they know promising to fix it gets more votes than actually doing that.

I mean, do you even hear yourself? You are trashing the party largely responsible for progress on the cannabis front...while letting the party that stood in their way off scot-free. Not to mention their hypocrisy on government spending and personal liberty.




You think I’m a conservative simply because I’m ticked at the Liberals for pretty much not fulfilling a single promise they made save for the cannabis legalization? Which IMO they royally fucked up as well. That’s a big assumption.


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Re: 4 dying Canadians wait to hear if they'll be allowed to try magic mushrooms for their anguish [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26836262 - 07/21/20 02:51 PM (24 days, 5 hours ago)

I didn't make any explicit accusation concerning your political identity, and my words were as much directed toward as PsychoReactive as you, but of the two parties to be upset with concerning the regulation of cannabis, it's ridiculous to attack the people who are pushing the envelope(however slowly) without a thought or word toward the people who are actually standing in the way.

And its no secret that politicians actions are motivated by votes, you aren't informing anyone with anything new by saying so and in fact that's how democracy generally works, its by design.


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Re: 4 dying Canadians wait to hear if they'll be allowed to try magic mushrooms for their anguish [Re: Holybullshit]
    #26836320 - 07/21/20 03:20 PM (24 days, 4 hours ago)

I’ll trash the liberals all day long on their shitty track record and I’ll follow it up with a dissertation on why conservatives equally suck. None of the parties are any different so waiting for one of them to do the right thing so suffering people can at least take some control over their physical and mental well-being is naive. If people around me are suffering and need psilocybin I’m not going to wait for the fucking governments okay to do what’s right.


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Re: 4 dying Canadians wait to hear if they'll be allowed to try magic mushrooms for their anguish [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26836744 - 07/21/20 06:11 PM (24 days, 1 hour ago)

All of canada can do medically assisted suicide now? Very cool. I think we only have a couple states in the US that can


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Re: 4 dying Canadians wait to hear if they'll be allowed to try magic mushrooms for their anguish [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #26836749 - 07/21/20 06:13 PM (24 days, 1 hour ago)

We can but there are serious issues with the program AFAIK. That one is definitely the conservatives fuck up.


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Re: 4 dying Canadians wait to hear if they'll be allowed to try magic mushrooms for their anguish [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26836754 - 07/21/20 06:17 PM (24 days, 1 hour ago)

Pity, surely it'll improve in time.

Off topic but do you have people in pickup trucks with two huge canadian flags on the rear corners of the truckbed?

I'm in a hick town and it cracks me up how often I see people driving around like that. Huge US flags on their trucks, year round.


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Re: 4 dying Canadians wait to hear if they'll be allowed to try magic mushrooms for their anguish [Re: Psilosopherr] * 1
    #26836816 - 07/21/20 06:45 PM (24 days, 1 hour ago)

Truck nuts are the jam here. Put a lift kit on the truck, some nutz on the hitch, and a decal of Calvin pissing on a greenpeace logo. You’ll blend right in. You can rob a bank in that sucker and the police report will say “suspects got away in a nondescript vehicle.”


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Re: 4 dying Canadians wait to hear if they'll be allowed to try magic mushrooms for their anguish [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26837710 - 07/22/20 08:41 AM (23 days, 11 hours ago)

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All of canada can do medically assisted suicide now? Very cool. I think we only have a couple states in the US that can



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_suicide_in_the_United_States#:~:text=Physician%2Dassisted%20death%20or%20%22medical,Oregon%2C%20Vermont%2C%20and%20Washington.



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Truck nuts are the jam here. Put a lift kit on the truck, some nutz on the hitch, and a decal of Calvin pissing on a greenpeace logo. You’ll blend right in. You can rob a bank in that sucker and the police report will say “suspects got away in a nondescript vehicle.”



OMFG! Really?:sad::scat:


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Re: 4 dying Canadians wait to hear if they'll be allowed to try magic mushrooms for their anguish [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26837991 - 07/22/20 10:55 AM (23 days, 9 hours ago)

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I’ll trash the liberals all day long on their shitty track record and I’ll follow it up with a dissertation on why conservatives equally suck. None of the parties are any different so waiting for one of them to do the right thing so suffering people can at least take some control over their physical and mental well-being is naive. If people around me are suffering and need psilocybin I’m not going to wait for the fucking governments okay to do what’s right.




You know better then everyone else buddy! So 7 grams of shrooms was not enough for you to see through your ego or are you too scared to try a heroes dose?


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