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Re: Black Lives Matter. [Re: pirate-blues] * 1
    #26830015 - 07/18/20 12:28 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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And you wonder why nobody wants to have a ‘discussion’ with you.

When it comes to political bias you are one of the worst offenders around.



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Once again, the lack of self awareness is just super impressive.

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Re: Black Lives Matter. [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26830016 - 07/18/20 12:28 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Hun, you’ll never understand.


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Re: Black Lives Matter. [Re: lowbrow]
    #26830019 - 07/18/20 12:31 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Politics be damned those of us that will die are about to refuse to wear the mask without a monthly check.

Protest incoming. If you want us to starve we wont stop until everyone in the country has it.






Nah yeah dude I agree, something has to be done. Shit will go full anarchy soon if they don't pass an actual economic recovery bill with some kind of extended income help for people.


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Hun, you’ll never understand.






I am no match for your big brain




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Re: Black Lives Matter. [Re: Amanita86]
    #26830031 - 07/18/20 12:40 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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It’s funny when people make a long post and do the :micdrop: like the applause track is qued up like it’s The View..:smilingpuppy:




It’s even funnier how the people who are the most obviously politically biased are the ones that accuse everyone else.  And they do it knowing full well that if they argue it long enough staff will ban the other party and not them.

A bunch of bullies rolling hard under the pretext of virtuosity, if you ask me.


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Re: Black Lives Matter. [Re: lowbrow]
    #26830038 - 07/18/20 12:47 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

:triggered:



Alright Alright I'm done. Out of respect to OP, and myself, I'mma duck out of this thread before I help turn it into a complete dumpster fire. Besides, that's lowbrow's job.


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Re: Black Lives Matter. [Re: ichugwindex] * 1
    #26830045 - 07/18/20 12:54 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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ichugwindex said:
Politics be damned those of us that will die are about to refuse to wear the mask without a monthly check.

Protest incoming. If you want us to starve we wont stop until everyone in the country has it.

Ok I'm joking but I bet some people are going to actually do that




I’m curious whether death is a bad thing right now.  The future thats coming up looks like it’s really going to suck.  Especially with this crybully culture thats being promulagated.


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Re: Black Lives Matter. [Re: lowbrow]
    #26830048 - 07/18/20 01:00 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Pfft. Bitches cant handle my manly tears


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Re: Black Lives Matter. [Re: ichugwindex]
    #26830059 - 07/18/20 01:20 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

No comprehend’e.


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Re: Black Lives Matter. [Re: lowbrow]
    #26830072 - 07/18/20 01:32 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Dont be afraid to have a healthy cry. Stress is the silent killer and not getting your emotions out with any kind of healthy outlet will catch up to you. A good heavy trip usually does the trick.


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Re: Black Lives Matter. [Re: ichugwindex] * 1
    #26830079 - 07/18/20 01:39 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I’ve done so much crying there’s no more tears to give.


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Re: Black Lives Matter. [Re: pirate-blues] * 2
    #26830124 - 07/18/20 03:15 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Showing solidarity for a movement is putting that ahead of other things how exactly? What are you doing for marginalized folks qman that you're soooo busy with that voicing support for a civil rights movement is such a detractor from? :lol: I'd love to know.


I can support and show solidarity for multiple things, all at once, and I can even care about multiple things all at once - it's amazing omg, I know. You should try it sometime.





Well folks actually are busy.  I assume everyone has a job or if they don't they are out of work at the moment, possibly as a result from the virus, plus they have the typical life responsibilities as well as family obligations.  There are so many problems in the world that not a single human can care for them all and do something for them all, let alone be aware of them all. 

I doubt qman is racist or hates much, but a lot of folks on here treat his posts in a way that seems like they think he is. I think it's because he has conservative values and while I am neither Republican or Democrat, folks ranging on the left like to be a little ridiculous at times  :shrug:.  So do right leaning folks sometimes, of course, but on the shroomery I see more of the left doing so.  Overt racism and similar ilk tend to get stomped out thanks to moderators. I have witnessed true racism in my life, that isn't here or if it is, it isn't for long.

P-b, you don't seem to be championing my plight or my problems and all those of whom share them, but I doubt it is because you don't care. You probably aren't aware and don't have the time, and I don't need a champion or affirmative action to make my situation better, I can do it my damn self without help and if I can't then fuck me, i accept all consequences, though I assure you I face discrimination every day

We all show support for multiple things, you aren't special.  I have never said this to anyone but that post I quoted has more entitlement than I have ever seen.  That being said I have no problem with you, but I'm mostly a lurker and I see a bunch of posts from lots of folks that are getting more radical. Everybody might benefit by chilling out a bit

I remember when I used to think of the word "radical" in a much different way.  It used to be the perfect descriptor for how you landed a skateboard trick or a bike maneuver and folks would say "Radical!" or "Rad!" if and when you nailed something cool.


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Re: Black Lives Matter. [Re: MorphinTime]
    #26830569 - 07/18/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I like stirring shit pot's, so when I see one I tend to give it a whirl.  Doesn't mean there is not a nugget of real truth in what I say, it's more  that when I see people argue and it is fully insincere (not pointing fingers, y'all know who you are) it just really brings out the worst in me.  Also, it's the internet, you ain't changing anyone's mind on shit unless it already is not made up.  Assuming everyone on shroomery and in here is at least 18 and probably older they have already decided where their affiliations lay.  So arguing them here is a "near" inherent waste of time (I say near but its still good to see both sides extremes and even the pillowy soft middle).  Oh well, such is life.  Go forth and live it how you want to, just remember that is rarely if ever how you have to live your life.


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Re: Black Lives Matter. [Re: Ice9] * 1
    #26832420 - 07/19/20 12:02 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Black Lives Matter

Brown Lives Matter

Indigenous Lives Matter

Trans Lives Matter

Disabled Lives Matter

LGBTQ Live Matter

MINORITY LIVES MATTER

(special mention)

Veteran Lives Matters


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Re: Black Lives Matter. [Re: lowbrow] * 5
    #26832449 - 07/19/20 12:13 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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lowbrow said:
And you wonder why nobody wants to have a ‘discussion’ with you.

When it comes to political bias you are one of the worst offenders around.




:lol: all you do on here is push your biased political agenda.

You consistantly make these snarky little insult posts about people you percieve as left-wing, that perfectly describe yourself and exactly what you do. There is no way you're not doing it on purpose, no one is that self-unaware.


In your own words:

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It’s even funnier how the people who are the most obviously politically biased are the ones that accuse everyone else.




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Re: Black Lives Matter. [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26832672 - 07/19/20 02:56 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

@Amanita. Just sick of having the same dumb ass argument over and over again. I'm sick of no one willing to have a discussion in good faith. I'm fucking done with it all. I've said my piece and that's that. Do you have anything to actually contribute or we done here? :peace:

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All lives won't matter until black lives matter.



And the data says that they don't. Forget all the issues, forget all the semantics, black people die at higher rates, are incarcerated at higher rates, and live in far higher poverty.

Medical experts even believe that black women who lived through the Jim Crow era are more prone to severe breast cancer as a result of living through so much emotional stress. I am sure that there are other instances of this medically as well.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/features/jim-crow-breast-cancer-black-women/

Apparently black people are also less likely to trust medical professionals, and before anyone goes a'googlin' and points this out - the medical system has committed some real fucking atrocities in this last century against marginalized people and black folks were at the top of the list. It's almost like there's this thing called cause and effect that has far reaching consequences and ripples that can last years!!!!/s (okay, sorry, I'm digressing.)


https://www.pbs.org/independentlens/blog/unwanted-sterilization-and-eugenics-programs-in-the-united-states/




There are tons of oppressed people in this country. Yes men have to deal with certain things women don't(child custody, toxic masculinity causing lots of mental distress and issues, higher suicide, etc.), yes women have to deal with shit that men tend to not go through, people in poverty get their own shit end of the stick navigating through a system that just sees them as another disposable pleb, felons are stuck fighting against an entire machine that is working to profit off of their imprisonment and making bank on recidivism. There's a lot of injustice. A lot of it effects white people and men. Everyone is fighting a battle. We have to start fighting for each other if we want to make any real progress. I can care about black lives without being black, I can care about more than one thing at once(omg!!), but this is not about that. This is about black lives. And I stand by what I say when I say that all lives won't and certainly don't matter until black lives matter. It's fucking 2020 this shit has gone on long enough, I'm done with this bullshit. Black lives matter and fuck anyone who says otherwise or tries to breed division through semantics.



:coolcat:




Really, the lives of impoverished people living in third world countries don't matter until you're satisfied with the first world living conditions of African Americans and their perceived injustices in the US?

I'm sorry, but you're now losing complete perspective of the battles humans face on a daily basis based on pure emotion instead of rational thought. There's always going to be some form of injustices regardless of the environment, getting hysterical and putting the injustices of a particular demographic over many others because it's the popular thing to do today doesn't serve any decent purpose in my opinion.







whelp you completely just misread everything so maybe go back and try again.


We're not talking about people in third world countries. We're talking about this country. Yes I care about those things, I've literally worked with nonprofits that directly help people all over fucking Africa in the most remote and impoverished regions, of course I care about those things.


That's not in the scope of what we're talking about. Sometimes you've got to drill down a bit and look at the shit you can control.




Even if we isolate this issue to just the US, you're still putting the struggles of black people over the struggles of every other group, I find that highly problematic. If you're truly concern about breeding division, you would stop putting the struggles of one group before the struggles of all other groups because it's the flavor of the month.

There was a small BLM march and rally in my town a few days ago, I can assure you it created more division and animosity rather than unity.






Showing solidarity for a movement is putting that ahead of other things how exactly? What are you doing for marginalized folks qman that you're soooo busy with that voicing support for a civil rights movement is such a detractor from? :lol: I'd love to know.



I can support and show solidarity for multiple things, all at once, and I can even care about multiple things all at once - it's amazing omg, I know. You should try it sometime.




"Showing solidarity for a movement is putting that ahead of other things how exactly?"  Well, these are your words- "all lives won't and certainly don't matter until black lives matter". 

Can you not see that you're prioritizing the struggles of just one group above the struggles of all other groups?

I get the feeling that you might think you're somewhat morally superior because of this hardline you're drawing with the black lives matter movement hysteria. I got news for you, it doesn't. You claim you can show support for multiple things, yet your words still show a serious priority to one specific movement and the lack of interest of those other movements until you're satisfied with the results from you main priority.


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Re: Black Lives Matter. [Re: qman]
    #26832683 - 07/19/20 03:01 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

lol what?


I don't do shit for black lives matter other than agree with them that black lives matter and support them being out there.


I help my mom mentor foster kids(well kid. we have one right now, and can only see her virtually), I'm helping set up a computer lab at a group home for kids, I give people free weed from the dispensaries who need it medically...like if anything I have a lot more altruism to stoke my ego with than black lives matter if I care to. And if you'd like to give me shit for it so be it, I maintain that altruism is the purest form of selfishness and I'm proud to embrace it.



I am literally just agreeing with their cause.

Wasn't so hard.


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Re: Black Lives Matter. [Re: pirate-blues] * 1
    #26832756 - 07/19/20 03:39 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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lol what?


I don't do shit for black lives matter other than agree with them that black lives matter and support them being out there.


I help my mom mentor foster kids(well kid. we have one right now, and can only see her virtually), I'm helping set up a computer lab at a group home for kids, I give people free weed from the dispensaries who need it medically...like if anything I have a lot more altruism to stoke my ego with than black lives matter if I care to. And if you'd like to give me shit for it so be it, I maintain that altruism is the purest form of selfishness and I'm proud to embrace it.



I am literally just agreeing with their cause.

Wasn't so hard.




Is altruism that makes you feel good (rewards you) truly altruism?  Kinda a dick question but I think it is valid.  I feel it is more like philanthropy.  Helping out because you can, and because it makes you feel good.  I don't think that renders your actions self-serving or some how negates the good you do, I just thought altruism was poor choice of words, where charity and philanthropy fit much better.

Regardless, if more people took time to donate their efforts (in actions or money) to things they felt improved the world, I believe we would have an improved society, one that more closely matches ideals of humanism.  Wish more would do so, but I understand the flipside of the coin where a lot of people feel nearly, or totally overwhelmed just getting by and don't have the extra emotional and physical energy to take on a cause.  Anyways Pirateblues, keep doing you, it makes a difference if small, and if we get a critical mass it make a major difference.  My hope is it seems the younger generations are not just idealistic, but willing to put in the work.  I've seen at a few places I volunteered at.  Makes me hopeful even with the state of things not being even remotely to my personal satisfaction.


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Re: Black Lives Matter. [Re: Ice9]
    #26832764 - 07/19/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

No that is a good question, and I would say it's probably a mix of philanthropy and altruism. I also meant it in this sense : https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/mar/13/george-davis-altruism-selfish-play-calculating-kindness


But also in the sense that it makes me feel good about myself too, and thus, is inherently at least a bit selfish - on an egoic level. But I would rather get my fix this way than any other, ya know :shrug: ?

I can't speak for anyone else, really. I'm too stoned to try, too. But I agree with you.


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Re: Black Lives Matter. [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26832777 - 07/19/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

wtf 9% of shroomery is racist according to this poll.

Time to step up the dosages then my fellow nazis.
Nothing cures racism as seeing yourself as member of another ethnic group

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Re: Black Lives Matter. [Re: LeningradCowboy]
    #26832895 - 07/19/20 05:10 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Nobodies lives matter! Now let's have a party! :vibin:


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