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About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people
#26832636 - 07/19/20 02:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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If a group of men with guns come stepping out of a van that has no markings on it and possibly no license plates, and the guys start approaching me in an intimidating manner, and they do not have any markings on their uniform to identify that they are a government employee, and they remain completely silent the entire time and they do not announce who they are or why they are approaching me/trying to capture me...
...in such a situation I would feel extremely threatened. I don't know who the men are or if they are trying to kidnap me. If I had a concealed weapon in my possession at the time and I used it to defend myself, what happens? (somewhat rhetorical, obviously I'd be shot dead on the spot as soon as the weapon is drawn, and if not shot dead on the spot I'd likely be charged for attempted murder).
But how does that work? How would such a thing go down in court? I have no way to know if the men are part of the government, or if they're part of a radical militia, or if they are trying to kidnap me.
If men with guns are trying to capture me and I don't know who they are or why they are trying to capture me...if I have a gun in my possession at the time I'm going to end up using it (and likely dead).
This shit is wild. And I feel it's barely just the beginning of some very dark times.
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: openmind]
#26832652 - 07/19/20 02:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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You should have the right to defend yourself in that scenario, but the legal system is obviously going to go after that person for doing so against law enforcement.
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: openmind]
#26832654 - 07/19/20 02:44 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Same in regards to "resisting" the capture and fighting the men, stabbing them, using pepper spray, doing anything I can to prevent some random guys from kidnapping me and dragging me into an unmarked van.
In such a situation....From my stand point I'd have no idea who the people are that are trying to capture me. So I'd absolutely put up a fight/resist, because from my standpoint all I know is that I'm being kidnapped.
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: openmind]
#26832678 - 07/19/20 02:58 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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openmind said: Same in regards to "resisting" the capture and fighting the men, stabbing them, using pepper spray, doing anything I can to prevent some random guys from kidnapping me and dragging me into an unmarked van.
In such a situation....From my stand point I'd have no idea who the people are that are trying to capture me. So I'd absolutely put up a fight/resist, because from my standpoint all I know is that I'm being kidnapped.
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I agree, and that's why you would need to record the entire interaction, otherwise law enforcement would lie about it.
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: openmind] 1
#26832751 - 07/19/20 03:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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openmind said:
...in such a situation I would feel extremely threatened. I don't know who the men are or if they are trying to kidnap me. If I had a concealed weapon in my possession at the time and I used it to defend myself, what happens? (somewhat rhetorical, obviously I'd be shot dead on the spot as soon as the weapon is drawn, and if not shot dead on the spot I'd likely be charged for attempted murder).
But how does that work? How would such a thing go down in court? I have no way to know if the men are part of the government, or if they're part of a radical militia, or if they are trying to kidnap me.
If men with guns are trying to capture me and I don't know who they are or why they are trying to capture me...if I have a gun in my possession at the time I'm going to end up using it (and likely dead).
This shit is wild. And I feel it's barely just the beginning of some very dark times.
-OM
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If you are out at a protest with other people who are vandalizing an or causing havoc breaking laws then you should expect to be looked at and recieve the same treatment like those people. Especially if you are wearing a mask and concealing your identity. You should also know first thing it's the feds cnn told me about. It's been reported on already and plenty people already know.
Also it would not be a good idea to draw your handgun on a bunch of assault rifles. Especially if you had prior knowledge that is was the military or whoever it is. You know it could end peacefully so long as you wanted it too.
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: Ovoidhunter]
#26832760 - 07/19/20 03:41 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#26832888 - 07/19/20 05:06 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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@OP, IF YOU SURVIVE, you should shut the fuck up and get the best lawyer you can buy.
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: spirit_shadow]
#26833017 - 07/19/20 06:21 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I was reading that agents didn’t want their identity revealed but made it clear they were FBI so I’m not sure how you would survive that. regular cops are pretty good at killing armed people so imagine basically swat trained cops.
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: qman]
#26833030 - 07/19/20 06:32 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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qman said: You should have the right to defend yourself in that scenario, but the legal system is obviously going to go after that person for doing so against law enforcement.
How would one know if they are law enforcement if there are no markings and no announcements made?
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: HamHead]
#26833145 - 07/19/20 07:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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"unmarked"
Are they picking up random people in the street or something? I've only heard about them being used at riots.
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: openmind]
#26833234 - 07/19/20 08:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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So you think its okay to try and destroy a federal courthouse for 60 days?
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: lowbrow]
#26833314 - 07/19/20 09:49 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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lowbrow said: So you think its okay to try and destroy a federal courthouse for 60 days?
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: lowbrow]
#26833317 - 07/19/20 09:51 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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lowbrow said: So you think its okay to try and destroy a federal courthouse for 60 days?
Only if these fascist stormtroopers are locked inside. Somebody smell bacon?
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: HamHead]
#26833322 - 07/19/20 09:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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It’s what happened.
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: lowbrow] 1
#26833329 - 07/19/20 09:58 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I was happy to see the police union building get torched
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: koods]
#26833365 - 07/19/20 10:29 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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i just want peace 2020 has already been way too much.
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: Ovoidhunter]
#26834295 - 07/20/20 01:30 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ovoidhunter said:
Quote:
openmind said:
...in such a situation I would feel extremely threatened. I don't know who the men are or if they are trying to kidnap me. If I had a concealed weapon in my possession at the time and I used it to defend myself, what happens? (somewhat rhetorical, obviously I'd be shot dead on the spot as soon as the weapon is drawn, and if not shot dead on the spot I'd likely be charged for attempted murder).
But how does that work? How would such a thing go down in court? I have no way to know if the men are part of the government, or if they're part of a radical militia, or if they are trying to kidnap me.
If men with guns are trying to capture me and I don't know who they are or why they are trying to capture me...if I have a gun in my possession at the time I'm going to end up using it (and likely dead).
This shit is wild. And I feel it's barely just the beginning of some very dark times.
-OM
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If you are out at a protest with other people who are vandalizing an or causing havoc breaking laws then you should expect to be looked at and recieve the same treatment like those people. Especially if you are wearing a mask and concealing your identity. You should also know first thing it's the feds cnn told me about. It's been reported on already and plenty people already know.
Also it would not be a good idea to draw your handgun on a bunch of assault rifles. Especially if you had prior knowledge that is was the military or whoever it is. You know it could end peacefully so long as you wanted it too.
lol
ima block u for ur shitty ideas
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: cannabinated]
#26834306 - 07/20/20 01:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I love how all of these russians from mississippi care enough about statues in seattle to impose military against states... and then to demand they dont wear a mask with sars out.... gtfo
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: cannabinated]
#26834319 - 07/20/20 01:44 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Edited by blewmeanie (07/20/20 01:44 PM)
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: cannabinated]
#26834330 - 07/20/20 01:51 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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cannabinated said:
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Ovoidhunter said:
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openmind said:
...in such a situation I would feel extremely threatened. I don't know who the men are or if they are trying to kidnap me. If I had a concealed weapon in my possession at the time and I used it to defend myself, what happens? (somewhat rhetorical, obviously I'd be shot dead on the spot as soon as the weapon is drawn, and if not shot dead on the spot I'd likely be charged for attempted murder).
But how does that work? How would such a thing go down in court? I have no way to know if the men are part of the government, or if they're part of a radical militia, or if they are trying to kidnap me.
If men with guns are trying to capture me and I don't know who they are or why they are trying to capture me...if I have a gun in my possession at the time I'm going to end up using it (and likely dead).
This shit is wild. And I feel it's barely just the beginning of some very dark times.
-OM
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If you are out at a protest with other people who are vandalizing an or causing havoc breaking laws then you should expect to be looked at and recieve the same treatment like those people. Especially if you are wearing a mask and concealing your identity. You should also know first thing it's the feds cnn told me about. It's been reported on already and plenty people already know.
Also it would not be a good idea to draw your handgun on a bunch of assault rifles. Especially if you had prior knowledge that is was the military or whoever it is. You know it could end peacefully so long as you wanted it too.
lol
ima block u for ur shitty ideas
Fine with me. I dont have enough people ignoring me anyways.. so itll be you and a machine gun kelly fan. I'm not complaining,
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