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About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people
#26832636 - 07/19/20 02:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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If a group of men with guns come stepping out of a van that has no markings on it and possibly no license plates, and the guys start approaching me in an intimidating manner, and they do not have any markings on their uniform to identify that they are a government employee, and they remain completely silent the entire time and they do not announce who they are or why they are approaching me/trying to capture me...
...in such a situation I would feel extremely threatened. I don't know who the men are or if they are trying to kidnap me. If I had a concealed weapon in my possession at the time and I used it to defend myself, what happens? (somewhat rhetorical, obviously I'd be shot dead on the spot as soon as the weapon is drawn, and if not shot dead on the spot I'd likely be charged for attempted murder).
But how does that work? How would such a thing go down in court? I have no way to know if the men are part of the government, or if they're part of a radical militia, or if they are trying to kidnap me.
If men with guns are trying to capture me and I don't know who they are or why they are trying to capture me...if I have a gun in my possession at the time I'm going to end up using it (and likely dead).
This shit is wild. And I feel it's barely just the beginning of some very dark times.
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: openmind]
#26832652 - 07/19/20 02:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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You should have the right to defend yourself in that scenario, but the legal system is obviously going to go after that person for doing so against law enforcement.
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: openmind]
#26832654 - 07/19/20 02:44 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Same in regards to "resisting" the capture and fighting the men, stabbing them, using pepper spray, doing anything I can to prevent some random guys from kidnapping me and dragging me into an unmarked van.
In such a situation....From my stand point I'd have no idea who the people are that are trying to capture me. So I'd absolutely put up a fight/resist, because from my standpoint all I know is that I'm being kidnapped.
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: openmind]
#26832678 - 07/19/20 02:58 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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openmind said: Same in regards to "resisting" the capture and fighting the men, stabbing them, using pepper spray, doing anything I can to prevent some random guys from kidnapping me and dragging me into an unmarked van.
In such a situation....From my stand point I'd have no idea who the people are that are trying to capture me. So I'd absolutely put up a fight/resist, because from my standpoint all I know is that I'm being kidnapped.
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I agree, and that's why you would need to record the entire interaction, otherwise law enforcement would lie about it.
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: openmind] 1
#26832751 - 07/19/20 03:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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openmind said:
...in such a situation I would feel extremely threatened. I don't know who the men are or if they are trying to kidnap me. If I had a concealed weapon in my possession at the time and I used it to defend myself, what happens? (somewhat rhetorical, obviously I'd be shot dead on the spot as soon as the weapon is drawn, and if not shot dead on the spot I'd likely be charged for attempted murder).
But how does that work? How would such a thing go down in court? I have no way to know if the men are part of the government, or if they're part of a radical militia, or if they are trying to kidnap me.
If men with guns are trying to capture me and I don't know who they are or why they are trying to capture me...if I have a gun in my possession at the time I'm going to end up using it (and likely dead).
This shit is wild. And I feel it's barely just the beginning of some very dark times.
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If you are out at a protest with other people who are vandalizing an or causing havoc breaking laws then you should expect to be looked at and recieve the same treatment like those people. Especially if you are wearing a mask and concealing your identity. You should also know first thing it's the feds cnn told me about. It's been reported on already and plenty people already know.
Also it would not be a good idea to draw your handgun on a bunch of assault rifles. Especially if you had prior knowledge that is was the military or whoever it is. You know it could end peacefully so long as you wanted it too.
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: Ovoidhunter]
#26832760 - 07/19/20 03:41 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#26832888 - 07/19/20 05:06 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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@OP, IF YOU SURVIVE, you should shut the fuck up and get the best lawyer you can buy.
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: spirit_shadow]
#26833017 - 07/19/20 06:21 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I was reading that agents didn’t want their identity revealed but made it clear they were FBI so I’m not sure how you would survive that. regular cops are pretty good at killing armed people so imagine basically swat trained cops.
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: qman]
#26833030 - 07/19/20 06:32 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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qman said: You should have the right to defend yourself in that scenario, but the legal system is obviously going to go after that person for doing so against law enforcement.
How would one know if they are law enforcement if there are no markings and no announcements made?
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: HamHead]
#26833145 - 07/19/20 07:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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"unmarked"
Are they picking up random people in the street or something? I've only heard about them being used at riots.
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: openmind]
#26833234 - 07/19/20 08:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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So you think its okay to try and destroy a federal courthouse for 60 days?
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: lowbrow]
#26833314 - 07/19/20 09:49 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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lowbrow said: So you think its okay to try and destroy a federal courthouse for 60 days?
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: lowbrow]
#26833317 - 07/19/20 09:51 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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lowbrow said: So you think its okay to try and destroy a federal courthouse for 60 days?
Only if these fascist stormtroopers are locked inside. Somebody smell bacon?
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: HamHead]
#26833322 - 07/19/20 09:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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It’s what happened.
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: lowbrow] 1
#26833329 - 07/19/20 09:58 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I was happy to see the police union building get torched
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: koods]
#26833365 - 07/19/20 10:29 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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i just want peace 2020 has already been way too much.
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: Ovoidhunter]
#26834295 - 07/20/20 01:30 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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...in such a situation I would feel extremely threatened. I don't know who the men are or if they are trying to kidnap me. If I had a concealed weapon in my possession at the time and I used it to defend myself, what happens? (somewhat rhetorical, obviously I'd be shot dead on the spot as soon as the weapon is drawn, and if not shot dead on the spot I'd likely be charged for attempted murder).
But how does that work? How would such a thing go down in court? I have no way to know if the men are part of the government, or if they're part of a radical militia, or if they are trying to kidnap me.
If men with guns are trying to capture me and I don't know who they are or why they are trying to capture me...if I have a gun in my possession at the time I'm going to end up using it (and likely dead).
This shit is wild. And I feel it's barely just the beginning of some very dark times.
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If you are out at a protest with other people who are vandalizing an or causing havoc breaking laws then you should expect to be looked at and recieve the same treatment like those people. Especially if you are wearing a mask and concealing your identity. You should also know first thing it's the feds cnn told me about. It's been reported on already and plenty people already know.
Also it would not be a good idea to draw your handgun on a bunch of assault rifles. Especially if you had prior knowledge that is was the military or whoever it is. You know it could end peacefully so long as you wanted it too.
lol
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: cannabinated]
#26834306 - 07/20/20 01:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I love how all of these russians from mississippi care enough about statues in seattle to impose military against states... and then to demand they dont wear a mask with sars out.... gtfo
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: cannabinated]
#26834319 - 07/20/20 01:44 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Edited by blewmeanie (07/20/20 01:44 PM)
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: cannabinated]
#26834330 - 07/20/20 01:51 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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cannabinated said:
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Ovoidhunter said:
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...in such a situation I would feel extremely threatened. I don't know who the men are or if they are trying to kidnap me. If I had a concealed weapon in my possession at the time and I used it to defend myself, what happens? (somewhat rhetorical, obviously I'd be shot dead on the spot as soon as the weapon is drawn, and if not shot dead on the spot I'd likely be charged for attempted murder).
But how does that work? How would such a thing go down in court? I have no way to know if the men are part of the government, or if they're part of a radical militia, or if they are trying to kidnap me.
If men with guns are trying to capture me and I don't know who they are or why they are trying to capture me...if I have a gun in my possession at the time I'm going to end up using it (and likely dead).
This shit is wild. And I feel it's barely just the beginning of some very dark times.
-OM
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If you are out at a protest with other people who are vandalizing an or causing havoc breaking laws then you should expect to be looked at and recieve the same treatment like those people. Especially if you are wearing a mask and concealing your identity. You should also know first thing it's the feds cnn told me about. It's been reported on already and plenty people already know.
Also it would not be a good idea to draw your handgun on a bunch of assault rifles. Especially if you had prior knowledge that is was the military or whoever it is. You know it could end peacefully so long as you wanted it too.
lol
ima block u for ur shitty ideas
Fine with me. I dont have enough people ignoring me anyways.. so itll be you and a machine gun kelly fan. I'm not complaining,
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: blewmeanie]
#26834338 - 07/20/20 01:59 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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"unmarked"
Are they picking up random people in the street or something? I've only heard about them being used at riots.
I think I saw the second and third guys from the left in a porno the other night, a chubby bear chub for chub action one!
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: blewmeanie]
#26834407 - 07/20/20 02:44 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: Ovoidhunter] 2
#26835681 - 07/21/20 08:47 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ovoidhunter said:
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openmind said:
...in such a situation I would feel extremely threatened. I don't know who the men are or if they are trying to kidnap me. If I had a concealed weapon in my possession at the time and I used it to defend myself, what happens? (somewhat rhetorical, obviously I'd be shot dead on the spot as soon as the weapon is drawn, and if not shot dead on the spot I'd likely be charged for attempted murder).
But how does that work? How would such a thing go down in court? I have no way to know if the men are part of the government, or if they're part of a radical militia, or if they are trying to kidnap me.
If men with guns are trying to capture me and I don't know who they are or why they are trying to capture me...if I have a gun in my possession at the time I'm going to end up using it (and likely dead).
This shit is wild. And I feel it's barely just the beginning of some very dark times.
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If you are out at a protest with other people who are vandalizing an or causing havoc breaking laws then you should expect to be looked at and recieve the same treatment like those people. Especially if you are wearing a mask and concealing your identity. You should also know first thing it's the feds cnn told me about. It's been reported on already and plenty people already know.
Also it would not be a good idea to draw your handgun on a bunch of assault rifles. Especially if you had prior knowledge that is was the military or whoever it is. You know it could end peacefully so long as you wanted it too.
So what you're saying is everyone everyone is guilty of a crime based on their proximity to an event? I bet if you sent that idea to China you'd start making the big buxx. Christ. You can't just warp the criminal justice system to fit your agenda. Have an opinion all you want but don't pretend it's the way things are. It's the way you want things to be because you've picked a shitty opinion and would rather justify it than to take two seconds to see it for what it is. That is facist bullshit and you know it but big hat Daddy-G says "B skerd." People are wearing fucking masks because of a deadly virus where the fuck have you been? Concealing their identity? Holy shit buddy. Between the people wearing masks to prevent viral infection and the people out of uniform and in unmarked vehicles, who's actually concealing their identity? 
I could rip that post a new asshole but trust me I have much better things to be doing. That was an extremely foolish thing to say, I very much hope I can attribute it to young man shit 'cuz dawg if you're not.. phew.
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: larry.fisherman]
#26835764 - 07/21/20 09:44 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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larry.fisherman said: So what you're saying is everyone everyone is guilty of a crime based on their proximity to an event?
Thats exactly what he’s saying. It’s called guilt by association and it’s also called the rico act. It’s used in all walks of law enforcement, it also falls under the conspiracy violation , why wouldn’t it be used in this situation?
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I bet if you sent that idea to China you'd start making the big buxx.
I imagine they already practice it.
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Christ. You can't just warp the criminal justice system to fit your agenda.
This is within the bounds of acceptable law enforcement.
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Have an opinion all you want but don't pretend it's the way things are.
seems like you’re making up the law enforcement code as you go. Are only you allowed to do it?
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It's the way you want things to be because you've picked a shitty opinion and would rather justify it than to take two seconds to see it for what it is.
in this case he’s right.
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That is facist bullshit and you know it
nope, just law enforcement.
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but big hat Daddy-G says "B skerd."
who's that, the new york times? The owners of Twitter? BLM?
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People are wearing fucking masks because of a deadly virus where the fuck have you been?
. There were a shitload of protesters wearing masks before COVID, now they’re abusing a national crisis for anonymity during criminal behavior directed at the US government. No loopholes when it comes to the government.
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Concealing their identity? Holy shit buddy.
that’s exactly what they’re doing.
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Between the people wearing masks to prevent viral infection and the people out of uniform and in unmarked vehicles, who's actually concealing their identity? 
they’re clearly marked as police, and when they pick someone up they identify themselves. If they don’t identify themselves, it’s because they don't have to.
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I could rip that post a new asshole but trust me I have much better things to be doing.
You’ve made dishonest intentions known. I appreciate your forethought.
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That was an extremely foolish thing to say, I very much hope I can attribute it to young man shit 'cuz dawg if you're not.. phew.
Way to end that with some words of wisdom.
Aren’t you canadian?
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: lowbrow]
#26835931 - 07/21/20 11:38 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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They’ve breached the courthouse and are attacking federal officers.
Portland rioters are officially in civil war with the US government.
Does anybody know what happens to enemy combatants?
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: lowbrow]
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: cannabinated]
#26835937 - 07/21/20 11:42 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Your problem, not mine.
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: cannabinated]
#26835939 - 07/21/20 11:42 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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why is it i can go on a random insta live and look at kids illegally getting their skull bashed in by the state
but i have no clue what ur talking about
is it cause i select what i wanna hear?
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: cannabinated]
#26835959 - 07/21/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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civil war
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: feevers]
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: Gorlax]
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: Dilsnique]
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Gorlax said: i just want peace 2020 has already been way too much.
Chaos before Order
You really think this will achieve order?
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Ultimately, yes. Lives will have to be lost, material things and what they symbolize will need to be destroyed, buildings that represent the corruption of the current powers will have to explode and everyone will have to give up the "comfort & safety" in which they think they live.
Do I think this will happen? Not likely. Not enough care or know enough of what is going on around them. They will not sacrifice their lives for freedom (like they tell us that our military is doing). They cannot give up material possesions and the lifestyle that worships them. They need their government to give them the illusion that they are safe. They are satisfied with cage-free slavery.
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: Dilsnique]
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Dilsnique said: Ultimately, yes. Lives will have to be lost, material things and what they symbolize will need to be destroyed, buildings that represent the corruption of the current powers will have to explode and everyone will have to give up the "comfort & safety" in which they think they live.
Do I think this will happen? Not likely. Not enough care or know enough of what is going on around them. They will not sacrifice their lives for freedom (like they tell us that our military is doing). They cannot give up material possesions and the lifestyle that worships them. They need their government to give them the illusion that they are safe. They are satisfied with cage-free slavery.
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: tyrannicalrex] 1
#26839129 - 07/22/20 07:39 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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My opinion is this is a step into authoritarianism and is deeply concerning.
We have the National Guard but Trump has instead chosen to mobilize various federal agencies. That's exactly how secret police are formed.
I believe we should be arming ourselves because if happens so much faster than you realize. In Venezuela in the late 90's Chavez launched a failed coup that killed many. Just like in the US, politics were extremely divided. Once the next president came into power he pardoned Chavez in a political stunt. Chavez won the next election and became president in 2002. By 2004 he had taken control of the military and Venezuela effectively became a dictatorship. Something similar could happen here and it's foolish to think it couldn't.
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: Darwin23] 1
#26839286 - 07/22/20 08:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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An authority figure who detains freedom and carries a gun should have to wear a badge and identification. For precisely the reasons stated above. Doesn't matter if they fear retaliation, that's a risk they assumed when taking on the job. No one is forcing them to 'work.'
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: Dilsnique]
#26839500 - 07/22/20 11:01 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dilsnique said: Ultimately, yes. Lives will have to be lost, material things and what they symbolize will need to be destroyed, buildings that represent the corruption of the current powers will have to explode and everyone will have to give up the "comfort & safety" in which they think they live.
Do I think this will happen? Not likely. Not enough care or know enough of what is going on around them. They will not sacrifice their lives for freedom (like they tell us that our military is doing). They cannot give up material possesions and the lifestyle that worships them. They need their government to give them the illusion that they are safe. They are satisfied with cage-free slavery.
What are you talking about? If civil war gets officially declared this will get ugly for the safe space crowd. They will not survive.
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Re: About these unmarked "mystery police" in unmarked vehicles capturing people [Re: lowbrow]
#26839920 - 07/23/20 07:47 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I hate to admit it, but all those "doomsday prepper" people will be the survivors in a world war.
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