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Having a Home/ my thoughts on the root problem.
    #26832412 - 07/19/20 11:57 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Eh nobody will bother to take 5 minutes to read it anyway. Go ahead and close it.


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Re: Having a Home/ my thoughts on the root problem. [Re: Enjoywho]
    #26832428 - 07/19/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

tl;dr Eat the rich, nuke the earth. End all suffering.


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Re: Having a Home/ my thoughts on the root problem. [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #26832462 - 07/19/20 12:25 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

It's such a bummer to realize that the world could be such a better place but the few just hoard wealth. There should just be a point that it's enough. Theres a cutoff where more doesn't equal greater happiness. Because Jeff Bezos having a trillion dollars just makes sense right?

Heard the argument the other day well it was probably hard work to launch and set up amazon. I'm sure it wasn't easy. He probably put some sweat and tears into it. But c'mon realistically what makes that effort any more valuable then anyone elses. Amazons cool and all. It's not essential or anything.

It just blows my mind that theres no cap on wealth. I think a system of slight communism with capitalistic elements would work. and you know not have the wealth gap be i dunno 10 dollars all the way to a trillion or however much imaginary number they say they have.

Communism sucks because communism has never actually been implemented. That's just the rich keeping everything for themselves and dicking over there citizens. Capitalism is just step on as many people as possible and acquire as much wealth as possible. The biggest monopolies have totally just laughed at the few laws they tried to get them to play somewhat fair. If anybody thinks the US is a fair market that's just funny.

It's a good idea in theory until the wealth merges at the top and it's all owned by a few.

I don't think it would be that bad of a thing if the largest swings in wealth were everyone at say a base 30k net worth to a couple million.

I think we're fucked. The greed will never stop. Everybody suffers nobody wins. Except the rich people that get to rape underage girls i suppose. I find it crazy that people can amass such wealth. Shouldn't even be legal honestly. Shit 9/10 it's a fucking ponzi scheme anyway.


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"I don't give nothin' to nobody, I just pay the cost to do business." - Riley "Young Reezy"-Boondocks

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"


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Re: Having a Home/ my thoughts on the root problem. [Re: Enjoywho] * 2
    #26832496 - 07/19/20 12:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I might need a couple days to read this


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Re: Having a Home/ my thoughts on the root problem. [Re: Kmacmo] * 1
    #26832573 - 07/19/20 01:44 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I will have to come back and read that at a later time.



There is still some cheap land out there though at least. Not that any piece of land I could realistically live on is within my reach to own. Not a lot of opportunity for augmenting income at the moment either.


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Re: Having a Home/ my thoughts on the root problem. [Re: psi] * 1
    #26832660 - 07/19/20 02:48 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Can always do what the UK did when they found the rich buying all the houses and them sitting there empty... introduce squatters rights. Basically it gives anyone the right to move in any house that is left standing empty. If they ever leave, even just to go down the shop, as an owner you can enter and change the locks, move in, whatever. But houses that sit around are are empty are fair game for anyone.

Of course this is massively unpopular for the rich as it puts an incentive to make sure someone is in that house, even if the rent is lower than they want. But it works great for homeless people and rent pricing control.


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Re: Having a Home/ my thoughts on the root problem. [Re: Northerner]
    #26833526 - 07/20/20 02:12 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I couldn’t read the whole thing but socialism is not going to work. We have too many people for everyone to pay for each others housing, schooling and healthcare. It also gives the government too much control over our lives. Think about getting money for all those needs from the gov they would own you. Also the social aspect of it, there are people that work for what they have and are proud of it.


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Re: Having a Home/ my thoughts on the root problem. [Re: Enjoywho]
    #26834026 - 07/20/20 11:00 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Enjoywho said:
Communism sucks because communism has never actually been implemented.




Here we go again....


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Re: Having a Home/ my thoughts on the root problem. [Re: lowbrow]
    #26834040 - 07/20/20 11:13 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

No system works because the only system people truly keep to is greed. All for me none for you. It's so funny that there is enough wealth to go around, but why bother. This is just talking about the US. All the other 3rd world countries are just straight up shit holes where they don't even bother giving them the illusion of wealth. So atleast we get that. I take the couple toys I can afford and go play quietly in my room.

It just sucks were all being stolen from daily. The cost of housing went up 65% over the past decade in Los Angeles. A 100$ bill these days is worth a fraction of what it used to. Every year were going to get that little extra chipped off. The income disparity is so large it's hard to even fathom it. Our minds aren't good at visualizing how much it truly is.

And all we can do is sit here and complain about it. Nothing will ever change. Donald Trump failed at everything he ever tried to do. But eh he's rich. Just go rip off some more rich assholes and bam president of the united states. I'm personally never going to bring any kids into this shit hole. I'd feel embarrassed explaining to my child that this is the pinnacle of human achievement. This shiny pile of dog shit.

True wealth has already been made. Bezos was definitely an anomely. The real fortunes have been made and have been absorbing the rest of the wealth like a black hole.


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"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"


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Re: Having a Home/ my thoughts on the root problem. [Re: Enjoywho]
    #26834058 - 07/20/20 11:26 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

We don't even live in a capitalistic society. That would assume that there is free and fair trade. There isn't though everything is a monopoly these days. People fought and died for unions to give future workers rights. To actually have a say in what you're worth. They threw money at that until that went away to. These companies sink 100's of millions of dollars into lobbying to pass laws and keep trade as unfair as possible.

Communism I think is the idealistic society. Every "communist" country on earth is a pile of shit though because just like capitalism the people at the top keep everything for themselves and give the rest of the people .00000000000000000000000000000000000000001%.

I think a truly communistic society with a very small variation in wealth between people would make everyone so much happier.

Rob Dyrdek is one of my favorite millionaires and he did exactly what I would do if I ever hit it big. He invested in all of his friends and families ideas and businesses. He helped them all become wealthy. Now they are all living well.

If I won 100m dollars tomorrow I'd buy a nice little 2 story house. A decent car, and i'd put 2 million in long term investments that I could easily live off the dividends and interest alone. I'd probably still have a job too just to not be bored. Or pick up a hobby. The rest I would help the people i know and that have influenced me in one way or another over the years to prosper. Because the group being wealthy is far better then one person having all of it.

With that I will be able to live a long and happy life with plenty to spare i'm sure. I don't see the point of having more than you need. If at that point i'm still not happy then having more money isn't the issue. Apparently if Epstein is anything to go by if you get enough wealth  you start fucking children.


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"I don't give nothin' to nobody, I just pay the cost to do business." - Riley "Young Reezy"-Boondocks

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"


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Re: Having a Home/ my thoughts on the root problem. [Re: Enjoywho]
    #26834127 - 07/20/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

:brainscream:


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