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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: porkandbeansboy]
    #26855104 - 07/31/20 08:54 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

a lvl 5 trip conventionally is considered 5g dry of cubes... so.. if pan cyans are 2-3x stronger... there you go.. 2g would be lvl 5..

for depression and ptsd like i said i would go .25g unless you want to get fucked up. then i would do 1.5g.

P.S. guys are going to post here that lvl 5 is like 200g dry.. and you can't get fucked up on 5g.. once again.. everyone is different. I do 2tabs+2-3g dry and just get a pleasant buzz due to tolerance. so it's hard to say what you will experience..


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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: icetech]
    #26855254 - 07/31/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

You were still asking a simple multiplication question.

2x3
2x2



I don't think there are solid answers here since the individual mushrooms will vary in potency and sometimes they can be super varied and sometimes they have almost nothing in them. That's why you should test the potency yourself by going small at first as you intend.

Also, I would recommend forgetting all about the lvl system. It's pretty arbitrary when it comes to the high doses of +5g.


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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: porkandbeansboy]
    #26855555 - 07/31/20 01:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Okay I trust you know what your talking about. I'm just wondering y is the shroom calculator saying 2 grams is a level 5 or highest level trip?

Makes no sense to me but I guess maybe it's set on the cautious side like I was saying if it's max strength.

Obviously I plan to start small and work my way up I'm just wondering if I'm wrong here or correct if no one knows I mean I'm not asking for a magical answer if that doesn't exist if your saying there is no answer to my question then I understand and accept that and thank you for taking the time to read my post and reply.




The 'dosage calculator' is a toy app at best and should not be adhered to without a grain of salt.


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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: icetech]
    #26856463 - 07/31/20 11:35 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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BTW.. if you are using it for PTSD, why not try really small doses (like .25g) which help a ton with depression and shit like that, then you won't be panicky about taking too much.




I'm not worried about taking to much or anyhting like. Like if my math is incorrect (nobody said if it is or not) than the fact the shrooms calculator says 2 grams is strong as 5 grams of the cubensis "types"

The shroom calculator says: Level 5 Total loss of visual connection with reality. The senses cease to function in the normal way. Total loss of ego. Merging with space, other objects, or the universe. The loss of reality becomes so severe that it defies explanation. The earlier levels are relatively easy to explain in terms of measureable changes in perception and thought patterns. This level is different in that the actual universe within which things are normally perceived, ceases to exist! Satori enlightenment (and other such labels).


It also says 2 people can eat the same dose of same batch of shrooms with the same weight etc. and one person will be trippin hard for hours but the other will hardly feel a buzz.


As I said I plan to start small and work my way as any experienced user would do... I just don't know if I have any use for the Blue Meanies other than for maybe when I want to get a super strong trip going on I guess?


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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: porkandbeansboy]
    #26856525 - 08/01/20 12:48 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

You can save the blue meanies for when you want a spectacular trip. The thing with stringer mushrooms is the trip is completely different, regardless of dose. I’m talking about Liberty Caps, but I guess it applies to any mushroom that is much stronger than a typical cubensis.

I always dry and store my liberty caps; because they basically contain high levels of psilocybin, and almost zero levels of psilocin, there is no difference between a trip from dry or fresh :thumbup:

I have just run out of 3 years worth of stocks, so hoping my fields are full again over the next couple of months.

3.5g is heroic for liberty caps; 3.5g of liberty caps is a much stronger “heroic dose” than 5g of cubensis, if that makes any sense.

No my advice: save the blue meanies for those special trips.
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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: porkandbeansboy]
    #26857734 - 08/01/20 07:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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icetech said:
BTW.. if you are using it for PTSD, why not try really small doses (like .25g) which help a ton with depression and shit like that, then you won't be panicky about taking too much.




I'm not worried about taking to much or anyhting like. Like if my math is incorrect (nobody said if it is or not) than the fact the shrooms calculator says 2 grams is strong as 5 grams of the cubensis "types"

The shroom calculator says: Level 5 Total loss of visual connection with reality. The senses cease to function in the normal way. Total loss of ego. Merging with space, other objects, or the universe. The loss of reality becomes so severe that it defies explanation. The earlier levels are relatively easy to explain in terms of measureable changes in perception and thought patterns. This level is different in that the actual universe within which things are normally perceived, ceases to exist! Satori enlightenment (and other such labels).


It also says 2 people can eat the same dose of same batch of shrooms with the same weight etc. and one person will be trippin hard for hours but the other will hardly feel a buzz.


As I said I plan to start small and work my way as any experienced user would do... I just don't know if I have any use for the Blue Meanies other than for maybe when I want to get a super strong trip going on I guess?




According to the calculator, 2.79 grams of dried Pan Cyans is about the same potency as 4.92 grams of dried Ps cubenis. A Level 4 trip with dried Pan Cyans equals about 2.07 grams. Hope this helps :sadyes:

Also I recommend eating Pan Cyans fresh! Its wonderful and amazing! You wont regret it :awesome:


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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26864304 - 08/05/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Thank Logical Chaos that's helpful information in your replies/posts.

Now I'm confused and not sure if I'm correct since everyone is saying different things like Icetech said " lvl 5 trip conventionally is considered 5g dry of cubes... so.. if pan cyans are 2-3x stronger... there you go.. 2g would be lvl 5."


2-3X stronger would make 2 grams 4 grams of Cubensis species/type/strain or whatever. I'm wondering as I said before. Is it 2x-3x stronger that the highest amount of psilocybin and psilocin if grown best as possible. Or is it 2x-3x compared to average varying amounts of psilocybin psilocin amounts in Cubensis Shrooms that are grown best?


My blue meanies are cracker dry. ^ Are you saying a blue meanies trip is a bit different just like liberty caps r a bit different.

A lot of  Shrooms feel slightly different to some extent at least.

If you read this post thoroughly and assuming I explained it properly in English you’ll understand that I’m not asking about math for a dose just simply trying to learn here? Idk maybe I need to ask this question on another Forum I just assumed Shroomery was the best place to ask this question?


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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: porkandbeansboy]
    #26864352 - 08/05/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Ok.. this has to be a troll post...


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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: icetech]
    #26864355 - 08/05/20 11:26 AM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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Ok.. this has to be a troll post...





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Ok.. this has to be a troll post...




Is truly what you think?


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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: porkandbeansboy]
    #26864698 - 08/05/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

Fresh trips are different than dried because fresh shrooms contain more "delicate" actives that are lost during drying.

And with all shrooms, potency is quite variable but typically Pan cyans are quite potent.


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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: porkandbeansboy]
    #26864731 - 08/05/20 02:33 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

There is no answer to your question. It's literally 2-3 times the strength. The variability of the active compounds is too high to make an accurate assessment beyond that.


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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: porkandbeansboy]
    #26864977 - 08/05/20 04:38 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

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InfiniteDreams is it the terminology difference between "species and "strains" that made u post that? If not then you didn't read my posts well. Regardless I made an edit to my first post hopefully to prevent further confusion.




No porkandbeansboy, it wasn't. 

Terms are important and you should use the correct ones to avoid confusion and miscommunication.  But I didn't make that post just to nitpick your terms.  The potency between species varies quite dramatically compared to the potency differences between varieties of cubensis.


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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: InfiniteDreams]
    #26866563 - 08/06/20 02:02 PM (3 years, 5 months ago)

You’re math is wrong. 2-3 times stronger means 1gram of pan cyan = 9373626&84 grams cubensis.

Disagree? How’d you come to the conclusion? Basic math and or calculator like has been mentioned numberous times? And even answered for you numberous times???



All trolls aside, you’ve gotten your answer in this thread. Shroom potency differs from shroom to shroom. 1g pan cyan = 2-3g AVERAGE cube (not maximum potential shroom). That’s what the “-“ in 2-3 is for, it’s a range because it can’t be specified down because SHROOM POTENCY VARIES FROM SHROOM TO SHROOM.

As others have said, you’re overthinking this, you could really benefit from just eating some of the shrooms

Best of luck man


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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: Gayfish]
    #27281400 - 04/25/21 10:41 AM (2 years, 8 months ago)

When did I post that I disagree? I think I'm the only one not overthinking this.

I might also be the only one here being trolled & straight up being called an idiot in a "polite" way. To be fair I do suck at math hence I made the thread.

I think people are confusing my confusion with me "overthinking" this topic.


The post above ^ is right about one statement I could seriously benefit (& then some) from a shroom trip...


Edited by porkandbeansboy (04/25/21 10:48 AM)


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