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Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type?
#26830591 - 07/18/20 11:17 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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EDIT: To prevent further confusion I'm asking about the mushrooms "species" Panaeolus cyanescens a.k.a. Blue Meanies compared to the Cubensis Strains of Mushrooms "species" like Cambodian Cubensis etc. obviously excluding penis envy.
From what I've read Blue meanies contain two to three times the amount of psilocybin and psilocin than Cubensis strains/species of shrooms.
Does this make 1 Gram of blue meanies strong as 2-3 grams of your typical Cubensis strains of shrooms?
Edited by porkandbeansboy (07/21/20 11:51 AM)
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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: porkandbeansboy]
#26830761 - 07/18/20 01:19 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yea man If its Panaeolus cyanescens aka blue meanies your talkin of-then yes they are 2-3times the strength Go easy on your first time-they kick ass...start at just under a gram dry and work your way up from there... Check out the pan thread for more info https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26518895#26518895
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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: Zifozonke]
#26831492 - 07/18/20 08:41 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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How am I supposed to accurately dose them seems like a huge gap. Like how much would 2 grams be equal to... 4 or 6 Grams of regular good strong Cubensis strains?
I want to make sure I'm not caught off guard.
Edited by porkandbeansboy (07/21/20 11:52 AM)
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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: porkandbeansboy] 1
#26831518 - 07/18/20 09:13 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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porkandbeansboy said: How am I supposed to accurately dose them...
A digital scale.
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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: porkandbeansboy]
#26831526 - 07/18/20 09:27 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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porkandbeansboy said: How am I supposed to accurately dose them seems like a huge gap. Like how much would 2 grams be equal to 4 or 6 Grams of regular good strong Cubensis strains?
I want to make sure I'm not caught off guard by some huge strong effects based on the potency by weight.
You likely will never get completely accurate, because you don't know the percentage of active chemical in each mushrooms. It's just kind of the way it is with Mushrooms. They're organic, and not subject to standardization.
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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: Azure Essence]
#26831709 - 07/19/20 12:21 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm asking if my math is correct for example... if I take to 2.5 grams it's equal 5 or 7.5 Grams?
Or am I wrong as I suck at math and I'd to be correct when it comes to MY MATH FOR DOSING I hope that clears up any confusion?
I'm also interested in anyone's experience. Like I got some Cambodian Cubensis Shrooms that I read have a more visual and energetic feeling to it for example? (I know these ARE NOT Cubensis Strain for the record)
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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: porkandbeansboy] 1
#26831714 - 07/19/20 12:24 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Try the Shroomery’s Doseage calculator: here. It has all you need to know
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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: DJ Ed]
#26831718 - 07/19/20 12:30 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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DJ Ed said: Try the Shroomery’s Doseage calculator: here. It has all you need to know 
Thank you I will check it out. I'm still wondering if my math is wrong though.
That being said I'd like to hear some feedback of people that have tried them and what they think the strongest aspects of Blue Meanies would be.
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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: porkandbeansboy]
#26833009 - 07/19/20 06:15 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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porkandbeansboy said: I'm asking if my math is correct for example... if I take to 2.5 grams it's equal 5 or 7.5 Grams?
Or am I wrong as I suck at math and I'd to be correct when it comes to MY MATH FOR DOSING I hope that clears up any confusion?
I'm also interested in anyone's experience in the subtle differences between strains. Like I got some Mongolian Cubensis Shrooms that I read have a more visual and energetic feeling to it for example? (I know these ARE NOT Cubensis Strain for the record)
Psilocybe Cubensis is a species of mushroom. There are many varieties of cubensis around. Strains are something entirely different with mushrooms; it is not like weed.
There are other species of psychedelic mushroom. As Zifozonke mentioned above, if "Blue Meanie" refers to Panaeolus Cyanescens, that is a different species, although the chemicals in both it and Ps. Cubensis that make you trip are the same.
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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: InfiniteDreams]
#26833572 - 07/20/20 03:38 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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InfiniteDreams is it the terminology difference between "species and "strains" that made u post that? If not then you didn't read my posts well. Regardless I made an edit to my first post hopefully to prevent further confusion.
The trip level 3 and 4 are described very vaguely. My last trip where I ate 6.5 Grams of some good shrooms don't know the "species" though I mixed it with weed and everyone knows weed can and will make your trip exponentially stronger... to the point small piles of weed I had ready for bong tokes were jumping around on my desk like a grasshopper when I was trying to catch my weed and pack my bowl and smoke it until I gave up trying to smoke more lol. I due remember basically blacking out lack for of a better way to explain it.
Not sure what level of a trip that'd be classified as though? Level 1 and 2 seem pretty clear and obvious what to expect.
For the Cubensis "species" excluding penis envy Cubensis "sepcies" only have a maximum amount of active ingredient. I'm going to assume these have 2 to 3 times the amount of active ingredient compared to the strongest Cubensis "species" correct me I'm wrong about that since based on the calculator it says 2 Grams of this "species would be a level 5 trip?
I mean nobody who's come to the thread knows the answer yet I understand.
I'm not sure if based on the calculator results make my math wrong or right now.
Thank you for taking the time to read this.
Edited by porkandbeansboy (07/21/20 05:51 AM)
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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: porkandbeansboy]
#26835948 - 07/21/20 11:48 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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The calculator is extremely confusing in multiple diffrerent ways...
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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: porkandbeansboy]
#26835953 - 07/21/20 11:52 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bro, no one wants to do simple math for you. Use a calculator. Have fun.
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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26852385 - 07/29/20 06:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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LosTresOjos said: Bro, no one wants to do simple math for you. Use a calculator. Have fun.
You decided to post that in this thread for what reason exactly? Not very good vibes coming from that post at all. I'll go "do simple math" thanx for the advice...
Now I'm now scared and reluctant to post further replies or start any new threads here.
It doesn't matter anymore.
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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: porkandbeansboy]
#26852410 - 07/29/20 06:24 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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You shouldn't be so discouraged. I mean I can't see why but I do wish you the best with your endeavors.
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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: LosTresOjos]
#26854940 - 07/31/20 06:29 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not asking anyone to do math.
Clearly I'm not explaining things right like calling the shrooms strains when I should said "types" or "type" of shrooms or "species" like I don't know how to ask in english the answers I need. I'm obviously asking all the wrong questions and hence getting the wrong answers.
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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: porkandbeansboy]
#26854954 - 07/31/20 07:01 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pork, yes pan cyans are 2-3x stronger than cubes... start low and work up.. you can always take more next time.
P.S. don't worry bout the whole species thing... everyone knows what you mean..
I would start with 1.5g and see how that works out then adjust next time.
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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: icetech]
#26855087 - 07/31/20 08:40 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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The shroom calculator says that 2g is a level 5 trip equal to like 5 Grams of Psilocybe Mexicana type of shrooms. At literally the maximum amount of active ingredients in it I'm asking that would make the Blue meanies 2x stronger.
Yet if you grew some Psilocybe Mexicana type of shrooms that were weaker the Blue meanies would be 3x stronger.
Or is it 2x-3x stronger than what the type of shroom Psilocybe Mexicana the strongest active ingredients amount when properly cared for shrooms.
I'm not sure if calling shrooms "growing" is the correct word for it. I hope how I worded things makes more sense than before?
Last trip I had was such a long time ago and I remember thinking literally the moment the shrooms effects wore off after 8 hour 6.5 gram shroom trip. I thought "why do I fell so good like I'm not even high anymore." I literally googled "why do I feel so good after taking shrooms" and first page that came up was about shrooms helping depression pstd etc.
I got bad P.T.S.D. and that was literally the BEST year of my life.Idk y but the shrooms made me way more confident happy and anxiety free and I used to cry to this one song during the trip though I didn't and ever since then that song never made me sad. I finally have been able to get some more shrooms and I jusst want to see where they take me as they say shrooms find u and u don't find shrooms.
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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: porkandbeansboy]
#26855094 - 07/31/20 08:46 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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you are WAY overthinking this.... 1.5g.... adjust from there next time.. if you are THAT worried do 1g.
Every person is different and every person has different tolerances. Also.. the strength of shrooms are not a science.. you can measure every dose exactly the same and get different results.
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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: icetech]
#26855096 - 07/31/20 08:47 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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BTW.. if you are using it for PTSD, why not try really small doses (like .25g) which help a ton with depression and shit like that, then you won't be panicky about taking too much.
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Re: Blue meanies Shrooms need advice from experience users of these type? [Re: icetech]
#26855098 - 07/31/20 08:49 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Okay I trust you know what your talking about. I'm just wondering y is the shroom calculator saying 2 grams is a level 5 or highest level trip?
Makes no sense to me but I guess maybe it's set on the cautious side like I was saying if it's max strength.
Obviously I plan to start small and work my way up I'm just wondering if I'm wrong here or correct if no one knows I mean I'm not asking for a magical answer if that doesn't exist if your saying there is no answer to my question then I understand and accept that and thank you for taking the time to read my post and reply.
Edited by porkandbeansboy (07/31/20 11:26 PM)
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