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OfflineCheetoHitler1
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Possible P. Alutacea in southern NSW, Australia - Identification needed
    #26829629 - 07/17/20 07:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Hi guys,
Just finished picking and drying 1.8 grams of what appear to be some kind of active psilocybe. The old cow pasture they were found in is >800m above sea level in the mountains of southern NSW, and they were found growing around (around, never from the dung directly) cow and wallaby droppings in well-manured decaying grass near a pine and scattered eucalypts. This led me to initially suspect P. Semilanceata, but as their caps are perhaps a little too broad and stems too straight to be liberty caps, I think they might be P. Alutacea as it is too cold for both subs and cubes at this time of year at this particular location. They fit all the criteria for psilocybe mushrooms - most specimens show at least some bluing on their ghostly white - yellow stems and some are even quite saturated with blue/purple or a light blue/gray colour. The gills are adnexed, cream coloured initially and seem to darken to a rich dark purple-black with age, and the fragment of a spore print I was able to get shows purple-black spores which can also be seen coating a number of stems. The hygrophanous, striated caps have the typical psilocybe golden-brown sheen and separable pellicles, many with the very pronounced ‘wizard’s hat’ cap shape (prominent umbo) that also led me to suspect P. Semilanceata. The odour is strongly farinaceous and quite similar to my last harvest of subs, and overall these mushrooms are highly distinct from the dung-loving inactives typified by Deconica coprophila that are all over the place up here. What do you guys think?


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Re: Possible P. Alutacea in southern NSW, Australia - Identification needed [Re: CheetoHitler1]
    #26829709 - 07/17/20 08:12 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

If they bruised then I'd say theres a strong chance you have ps. Alutacea

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Re: Possible P. Alutacea in southern NSW, Australia - Identification needed [Re: MentalPariah]
    #26829741 - 07/17/20 08:36 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks mate, great to finally start sharing some finds on here! This’ll be my second wild mushie patch so far, both found  after inordinate amounts of research (and walking haha :smile:) over the past two years. Gotta love those subs, they sure were worth the effort. I was looking for em when I found these, so still a win in my book. The caps of these look so geometric too, they’re like little golden domes glowing in the grass. Just knew they had to be psilocybe when I saw them - I initially thought they looked like GT cubensis because of their dome-like caps and blue/green bruising, then I remembered GTs can’t come up in winter. This is a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one :crazy2:


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Re: Possible P. Alutacea in southern NSW, Australia - Identification needed [Re: MentalPariah]
    #26829799 - 07/17/20 09:22 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

If they don't bruise they may be a lookalike such as Deconica coprophila.

I think there's another one that grows from dung that looks the same too but I can't remember its name.

P Alutacea can be tricky with the bruising (it can be very very faint sometimes) they dont bruise like subs. Most bluing will be seen at the bottom of the stipe/ mycelial threads (unless its a large P. Alutacea which may bruise a little more on the stem). Just double check.


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Re: Possible P. Alutacea in southern NSW, Australia - Identification needed [Re: Tripliping]
    #26829909 - 07/17/20 11:04 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, the blue bruising was pretty hard to notice on some of them while they were still fresh, but after drying they all seem to have a nice blue/green region near the base of their stems. They were reasonably easy to tell apart from S. Semiglobata and D. Coprophila by their prominent umbo, adnexed gills, characteristic whitish/yellowish stems vs the inactives’ brown/yellow stems; and the fact that they didn’t seem to grow directly in clumps of dung, and didn’t seem to come up in dense clusters typical of the inactive species. They all seemed to have excellent structural integrity, as I could pull ‘em up by their caps and still be left with a whole mushroom, rather than a fragmented cap ripped from its stem. I tossed away many mushrooms that didn’t fit these criteria too, so I think I’m as safe as I can be :thumbup:
Example of bluing in pic attached, and like you said the larger specimen has gone bluer than the others.


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Re: Possible P. Alutacea in southern NSW, Australia - Identification needed [Re: CheetoHitler1]
    #26829976 - 07/17/20 11:57 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Looks pretty promising after seeing that last pic.


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