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Psychedelics and Self-Development Study 4
#26829245 - 07/17/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi there! Researchers from the US, Germany and Australia are looking for psychedelic users to participate in the survey below. After clicking the link, you'll be brought to the consent form which contains information about the study.
https://gccuny.az1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_1RY0M9HksfIfEsl
The survey will take between 15-25 minutes to complete. If you decide to provide your email address at the end of the survey, you'll receive a summary of the results and a copy of the published manuscript.
This study is being conducted by a team of university researchers from the US, Australia, and Germany: PhD Student Nicole Amada, Department of Psychology, City University of New York; Dr. Toby Lea, Centre for Social Research in Health, UNSW Sydney, Australia USA; Dr. Henrik Jungaberle, MIND European Foundation for Psychedelic Science, Berlin, Germany
This study has gone through ethical approval by the City University of New York Institutional Review Board
Thank you!
Edited by namada (07/17/20 03:59 PM)
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: namada]
#26829257 - 07/17/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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What researchers? From where? How can we verify that this is legitimate medical research carried about by actual professionals?
When somewhere like John Hopkins posts a study, they're always very clear about who they are, who is running the study, and why. They often even stick around and answer user questions about the study. But here, you're just saying some nebulous researchers from seemingly random countries are conducting some vague research. This doesn't seem to me like the kind of thing that actual researchers would do.
We need to be able to verify that this is legitimate medical research conducted by actual universities, etc.
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: nooneman] 2
#26829270 - 07/17/20 03:37 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi there...
This study is being conducted by a team of university researchers from the US, Australia, and Germany: PhD Student Nicole Amada, Department of Psychology, City University of New York; Dr. Toby Lea, Centre for Social Research in Health, UNSW Sydney, Australia USA; Dr. Henrik Jungaberle, MIND European Foundation for Psychedelic Science, Berlin, Germany
It is approved by City University New York Institutional Review Board
More information about the study, its objectives and interests, are present on the first page of the survey (i.e. in the consent document)
I'm available to answer any questions potential participants may have regarding this research
Edited by namada (07/17/20 03:58 PM)
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: namada] 1
#26829656 - 07/17/20 07:33 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm down. I looked this character up and she's legit.
I like these studies. Even if they aren't aimed at eventual legalization in some way it still makes me feel good when people with acronyms take an interest. They carry more weight with suburban people.
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Edited by Roger Clemency (07/18/20 08:47 AM)
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: namada]
#26829844 - 07/17/20 10:02 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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namada said: Hi there...
This study is being conducted by a team of university researchers from the US, Australia, and Germany: PhD Student Nicole Amada, Department of Psychology, City University of New York; Dr. Toby Lea, Centre for Social Research in Health, UNSW Sydney, Australia USA; Dr. Henrik Jungaberle, MIND European Foundation for Psychedelic Science, Berlin, Germany
It is approved by City University New York Institutional Review Board
More information about the study, its objectives and interests, are present on the first page of the survey (i.e. in the consent document)
I'm available to answer any questions potential participants may have regarding this research
Thanks for your prompt response! Sorry if my initial response was a bit harsh, we get a lot of people asking us to participate in research. It can be hard sometimes to distinguish between genuine research and other stuff. I appreciate your response.
Hope your study goes well
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Mushroom troubles [Re: nooneman]
#26830431 - 07/18/20 09:29 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi everyone if you can see this. First time poster, first time grower, please forgive me if I’m in the wrong place but I’ve never posted on any forum before. I’d like to get some advice on my grow, I have absolutely no idea if I have put the links in right, any advice would be helpful thank you, the heads seem to be wrinkling up? Turning inside out? Largest Shroom is maybe 5cm http://
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Josh - Click on 'Forum index' up at the top of the page, then find 'Mushroom Cultivation'
Around the middle of the page you'll see: 'Mushrooms, Mycology and Psychedelics >> Mushroom Cultivation' To the right of all that it says 'Post'
That will let you post your question in the right spot.
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: nooneman]
#26831387 - 07/18/20 07:15 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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No worries at all and very understandable. Thank you for the well wishes!
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: namada]
#26831692 - 07/19/20 12:08 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thank you
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: nooneman]
#26832119 - 07/19/20 08:12 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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nooneman said: What researchers? From where? How can we verify that this is legitimate medical research carried about by actual professionals?
When somewhere like John Hopkins posts a study, they're always very clear about who they are, who is running the study, and why. They often even stick around and answer user questions about the study. But here, you're just saying some nebulous researchers from seemingly random countries are conducting some vague research. This doesn't seem to me like the kind of thing that actual researchers would do.
We need to be able to verify that this is legitimate medical research conducted by actual universities, etc.
This announcement has been vetted and approved by the Shroomery staff And its a sticky Or you could do your own research if you don't trust the site's
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: bodhisatta]
#26832160 - 07/19/20 08:40 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Done  Thank you for posting it. I'm curious about the results.
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: InnerEternity]
#26832282 - 07/19/20 10:23 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks Bodhisatta I'll jump on board now while still enjoying an afterglow.
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: GreenHorns]
#26839695 - 07/23/20 01:37 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I Love it when Australia gets down with Psychedelics I'm in...
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: Graymaster]
#26841067 - 07/23/20 04:56 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Does one take the survey before or eating a few caps?
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: nopainmygain] 1
#26841307 - 07/23/20 06:56 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Guys, the user who posted this is "namada", the pHD student mentioned is Nicole Amada. It's the same person, she's even used a pseudonym of her real name. Sure it doesn't prove that namada is Nicole Amada but I mean... if you're really worried just activate your VPN if you haven't already?
This is pretty awesome for us to be involved with, at least IMHO, and would be tremendous for us to support her and be involved in helping to move the legitmate and medical uses of psychedlics forward into the 21st Century. Vigilence is obviously necessary for this community for obvious reasons, but I'd be happy to participate.
You can even see her on Youtube (2019)
@Namada - thanks for involving us! Apologies for the vigilence but I'm sure you understand why we're all a little jittery when a new user jumps on and throws a link at us The only thing I might gently suggest is perhaps putting a few links and information in your signature (eg link to your Youtube video as above or other sources to show people any of your current or previous research) if you're happy to do that. It will lend more legitimacy to anything you post and get far greater response until people get to know you.
Thank again!
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: Roger Clemency] 1
#26841684 - 07/23/20 10:30 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Roger Clemency said: I'm down. I looked this character up and she's legit.
I like these studies. Even if they aren't aimed at eventual legalization in some way it still makes me feel good when people with acronyms take an interest. They carry more weight with suburban people.
I agree. These types of studies are an important step in legalization. As a social sciences teacher, I have spent WAY too much time teaching summer school lately, and 1 of the classes is American Gov. While some people might think a study like this is useless if they want legalization, policy both starts and ends with the people. No one legalized MMJ because a few hippies wanted it they did it when the masses asked for it and much fewer people were against it than in the past. Spreading awareness and accurate knowledge is key to the process of creating a new policy. 1st hand advocacy from personal experience has value, but so do scientific studies. As awareness and knowledge spread, and more studies are available, it will become easier for the general public to learn and believe in the power of plant medicine. If studies show positive effects it does nothing but help support legalization in the long term.
I agree with everything you said, but I just wanted to elaborate on what you said: this study is not aimed at legalization but studies like this do help support people advocating for legalization.
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: MrTinAZ]
#26841861 - 07/24/20 12:48 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would have preferred being able to use tor personally but the survey was non invasive and email was optional.
@namada can the following results or updates be posted here so users can see the data without providing an email address? For obvious reasons we tend to value our privacy.
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: GreenHorns]
#26842406 - 07/24/20 10:25 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sod it folks, I posted my email address. What are they going to do? Really?
You hide your stash, you do the man’s work for him 
I’ve got too old to care anymore. I’ve worked all my life, paid my taxes, and voted. I will not go quietly if they think they can tell me what I can and cannot eat.
Best of luck with the research, I have total respect for all of you.
Many thanks DJ Ed
p.s. Not my real name, not even close
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: DJ Ed]
#26844342 - 07/25/20 10:03 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Curious as to what methodology do you take as far as self-reported results (notoriously unreliable, I'm sure you know) to statistically clean-up the results. Please note that this isn't a criticism, I just work with hard, verifiable data and don't have to deal with vagaries of Humans being involved so I'm interested. Thanks, and I understand if it's too much to explain here.
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: Ice9]
#26844629 - 07/25/20 01:09 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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amateur volunteer population of druggies?
well if she can get funding for it, great! some people find a niche and get good at it. LUCKY! (talented!)
meantime, this way she is well insulated by anonymity from the test animals and actually has a lot of leeway in how she approaches the data dump that will follow.
maybe it will lead to decriminalization and reasonable psychedelic psychotherapy.
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: nooneman]
#26847163 - 07/27/20 05:06 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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nooneman said: What researchers? From where? How can we verify that this is legitimate medical research carried about by actual professionals?
When somewhere like John Hopkins posts a study, they're always very clear about who they are, who is running the study, and why. They often even stick around and answer user questions about the study. But here, you're just saying some nebulous researchers from seemingly random countries are conducting some vague research. This doesn't seem to me like the kind of thing that actual researchers would do.
We need to be able to verify that this is legitimate medical research conducted by actual universities, etc.
Wow you're a dick. Now mushrooms will never get legalized.
Great job!
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: Ice9]
#26847885 - 07/27/20 12:59 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ice9 said: Curious as to what methodology do you take as far as self-reported results (notoriously unreliable, I'm sure you know) to statistically clean-up the results. Please note that this isn't a criticism, I just work with hard, verifiable data and don't have to deal with vagaries of Humans being involved so I'm interested. Thanks, and I understand if it's too much to explain here.
This is a fair critique. If I were reviewing these results for publication I'd ask something similar. "We asked a forum of pro shroom users whether they liked to use shrooms." Not the best sample.
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: badchad] 1
#26848052 - 07/27/20 02:08 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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badchad said: This is a fair critique. If I were reviewing these results for publication I'd ask something similar. "We asked a forum of pro shroom users whether they liked to use shrooms." Not the best sample.
Agreed, my take on it is that because it's in a strange legal place for people to be launching peer reviewable studies. Any one of these studies will have this sample bias problem, however, just because I do actually think that psilocybin enhances my life rather than detract from it (as powerful business interests would have you believe) doesn't mean that my experience should be discounted. It's ultimately for that reason that I participate in this stuff. More data is more data.
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: badchad]
#26849208 - 07/28/20 03:17 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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badchad said:
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Ice9 said: Curious as to what methodology do you take as far as self-reported results (notoriously unreliable, I'm sure you know) to statistically clean-up the results. Please note that this isn't a criticism, I just work with hard, verifiable data and don't have to deal with vagaries of Humans being involved so I'm interested. Thanks, and I understand if it's too much to explain here.
This is a fair critique. If I were reviewing these results for publication I'd ask something similar. "We asked a forum of pro shroom users whether they liked to use shrooms." Not the best sample.
Not even that. They asked it in the pub lol
They should have polled it in psych experiences.. smh
It is enough to make me throw my hat in the ring to become a mod... shiithead2020
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: Shiithead] 2
#26849247 - 07/28/20 04:31 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Its a global sticky. It wasn't posted in the pub
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: bodhisatta]
#26849254 - 07/28/20 04:48 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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It still suffers extremely from self-selection as users with positive experiences are going to massively outweigh users of negative experiences. They might have a way of dealing with this, I don't do sociological statistics, but this seems a near insurmountable burden to publication in anything other than a pay to play journal which have proliferated in the past 5 years.
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: Ice9] 1
#26849358 - 07/28/20 07:20 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ice9 said: It still suffers extremely from self-selection as users with positive experiences are going to massively outweigh users of negative experiences. They might have a way of dealing with this, I don't do sociological statistics, but this seems a near insurmountable burden to publication in anything other than a pay to play journal which have proliferated in the past 5 years.
Randomizing the sample would be the easiest way. Instead of administering a survey to people who love drugs asking them how much they love drugs, they'd survey a representative sample of the population. From there, pull out the individuals that have hallucinogen experience, and survey them.
For sure, it's a much larger, much more complex and way more expensive study, but it's been done.
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: Ice9]
#26851635 - 07/29/20 11:36 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ice9 said: It still suffers extremely from self-selection as users with positive experiences are going to massively outweigh users of negative experiences.
This is a moot point since I know of nobody who had one bad trip and never tripped again.
Having a bad trip is part of the experience. Most people have at least one bad trip under their belt. It rarely stops people from using them though.
I learned a lot from my one bad trip. I mainly learned to not do them so often, but there was also deeper learning there too.
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: Jailbird420]
#26858810 - 08/02/20 12:41 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Giving this thread a bump, I answered the survey and hope others will do the same.
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: GH19971] 1
#26858886 - 08/02/20 01:14 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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If someone doesn't like the study just don't answer no one is making you.
As far nooneman asking where the study is from saying they do not tell us, that is incorrect, the study is CLEARLY labeled you just have to not be lazy and go read:
"THE CITY UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK Brooklyn College Principal Investigator: Nicole Amada, MA., PhD. Student" This is an educated adult with a Bachelor's Degree, a Masters Degree, and currently is a Ph.D. student or candidate depending on how far they are in their program. If this is for the dissertation than she would be considered a Ph.D. candidate, if she is earlier in the process she would be considered a Ph.D. student. I'm not saying a degree is all that matters, but I only have a bachelor's and will get a Masters soon for more pay but I likely never would want to do the work to get a Ph.D. This student is working hard and just asking for a bit of help & support so, in my opinion, we should give it to her or get lost but I support freedom of thought and speech so if people want to criticize it go on ahead.
As far as people criticizing the study, your criticisms may or may not be valid, since the true questions and implications of a study are often hidden from participants in order to ensure accurate untainted results. It is possible that this is just a small part of a larger sample from different sources. It is possible that they want it online like this ON PURPOSE and that they are polling people in-person as well as online to show the differences in self-reporting. It is also possible they are giving people shrooms and getting them to report their results, and then getting people to self-report/self-describe past results to see if people glorify or bash shrooms more down the road and on average have a more positive or negative view of taking shrooms right after doing them or far in the future. There are a bazillion possibilities and if they were to disclose everything it could create inaccurate results. It is also possible the criticisms people have are valid, but it is important to remember that we may not know everything always, so sometimes it is better not to make assumptions as if we do.
Sorry to go on a rant but as someone who supports education it is frustrating to see more criticisms than people supporting something that is more likely to benefit this community than it is to hurt it.
Edited by MrTinAZ (08/02/20 01:23 PM)
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: MrTinAZ]
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Put it as a job on mturk for some mullah and I'll do it.....20-30min is a lot of time when personal time is finite 
Edit: lol jk, I'll probably wait to actually trip WHILE taking the survey to make it as accurate as possible
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: nooneman]
#26859597 - 08/02/20 07:30 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Here is some of the work being carried out in ACT Australia.
Awesome news !
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Hey there, I reckon you have done an excellent first job.
You must be US based in order to get your hands on spores.
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: nooneman]
#26867741 - 08/07/20 07:04 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Are they going them to give us psychedelics drugs?
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: starfire_xes]
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They have been testing with psilocyben MDMA. Its all goodness !
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dothedew69
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: starfire_xes] 1
#26872730 - 08/10/20 05:14 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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MrTinAZ said: If someone doesn't like the study just don't answer no one is making you.
As far nooneman asking where the study is from saying they do not tell us, that is incorrect, the study is CLEARLY labeled you just have to not be lazy and go read:
"THE CITY UNIVERSITY OF NEW YORK Brooklyn College Principal Investigator: Nicole Amada, MA., PhD. Student" This is an educated adult with a Bachelor's Degree, a Masters Degree, and currently is a Ph.D. student or candidate depending on how far they are in their program. If this is for the dissertation than she would be considered a Ph.D. candidate, if she is earlier in the process she would be considered a Ph.D. student. I'm not saying a degree is all that matters, but I only have a bachelor's and will get a Masters soon for more pay but I likely never would want to do the work to get a Ph.D. This student is working hard and just asking for a bit of help & support so, in my opinion, we should give it to her or get lost but I support freedom of thought and speech so if people want to criticize it go on ahead.
As far as people criticizing the study, your criticisms may or may not be valid, since the true questions and implications of a study are often hidden from participants in order to ensure accurate untainted results. It is possible that this is just a small part of a larger sample from different sources. It is possible that they want it online like this ON PURPOSE and that they are polling people in-person as well as online to show the differences in self-reporting. It is also possible they are giving people shrooms and getting them to report their results, and then getting people to self-report/self-describe past results to see if people glorify or bash shrooms more down the road and on average have a more positive or negative view of taking shrooms right after doing them or far in the future. There are a bazillion possibilities and if they were to disclose everything it could create inaccurate results. It is also possible the criticisms people have are valid, but it is important to remember that we may not know everything always, so sometimes it is better not to make assumptions as if we do.
Sorry to go on a rant but as someone who supports education it is frustrating to see more criticisms than people supporting something that is more likely to benefit this community than it is to hurt it.
I’m with MrTinAZ, there’s a lot of data we don’t know and to me it is very logical. This could be one of hundreds of locations they could be polling data from. They could also be collecting data from local PTA, we just don’t know. The fact is there are many more users with experience than this forum. It’s been years since I’ve had an experience but it changed my life for the better. I truly believe in psychedelics for medicinal use. The only reason why I will be using again is literally for medicinal purpose. I suffer from marked social anxiety disorder and for me the experiences truly help me. Cognitive behavioral therapy is the best course of treatment. Mushrooms for me is just opening the mind and allows me to think and correct these issues. If I could use while in CBT therapy there would be massive benefits to medical applications. Use a proxy, create a new email, let’s get these folks the data they need. The positive benefits of even just medicinal use will help millions of people like me.
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Vylie
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: namada]
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Edited by Vylie (02/11/21 02:10 PM)
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Vylie
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: namada]
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Edited by Vylie (02/11/21 02:10 PM)
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Asante
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: Vylie] 1
#26874460 - 08/11/20 05:33 AM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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Now we are on the subject of medicinal and therapeutic tripping..
medicinal tips for medicinal trips!
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/336
-------------------- Omnicyclion.org higher knowledge starts here
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hari
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study [Re: Asante]
#26875667 - 08/11/20 06:17 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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SO cool
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Re: Psychedelics and Self-Development Study (moved) [Re: namada]
#26879014 - 08/13/20 06:07 PM (3 years, 5 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Website Announcements and Feature Feedback.
Reason: Populating our new Psychedelic Medicine, Research & Microdosing forum with relevant material.
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