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Re: Motorcycle Crash Victim Included in FL Covid-19 Fatality Numbers [Re: Vahn421] * 1
    #26829384 - 07/17/20 04:31 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Motorcycle Crash Victim Included in FL Covid-19 Fatality Numbers [Re: Enlil]
    #26829396 - 07/17/20 04:38 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I'm gonna re-quote something cuz this REALLY got me thinking and I almost missed it...

"The CARES Act created the 20% add-on to be paid for Medicare patients with COVID-19. The act further created a $100 billion fund that is being used to financially assist hospitals — a “portion” of which will be “used to reimburse healthcare providers, at Medicare rates, for COVID-related treatment of the uninsured,"

So basically if someone "has Covid" and doesn't have insurance, hospitals can go from making very little to MAKING BANK by making their patient's entire journey all the way up until death Covid related. You fill out all the forms to get your reimbursement from the uninsured, mark them all "covid," and Medicare sweeps in and says, "here's a lot of fucking money!"

They have to tell the story all the way to the end in order to make maximum money off of the uninsured.

If that isn't enough proof of why they are inflating the covid death count, I don't know what is.


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Re: Motorcycle Crash Victim Included in FL Covid-19 Fatality Numbers [Re: Vahn421] * 1
    #26829400 - 07/17/20 04:41 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Making bank? You think a hospital that only gets $39,000 for someone on a ventilator for three weeks is making bank? You really have no clue how the world works. You’d be charged a half million dollars for that service.


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Re: Motorcycle Crash Victim Included in FL Covid-19 Fatality Numbers [Re: koods]
    #26829402 - 07/17/20 04:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Dude, you're so not worth my time. Here, look at the pretty fish instead.



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Re: Motorcycle Crash Victim Included in FL Covid-19 Fatality Numbers [Re: Vahn421]
    #26829414 - 07/17/20 04:47 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I guarantee you that hospitals are losing massive amounts of money treating covid patients on Medicare

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/05/05/hospitals-losing-millions-of-dollars-per-day-in-covid-19-pandemic.html


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Re: Motorcycle Crash Victim Included in FL Covid-19 Fatality Numbers [Re: koods] * 1
    #26829419 - 07/17/20 04:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Still waiting for any evidence hospitals are faking covid patients

I’m gonna assume the motorcycle dude was not a Medicare patient so how exactly does any of this apply to him?


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Re: Motorcycle Crash Victim Included in FL Covid-19 Fatality Numbers [Re: koods]
    #26829425 - 07/17/20 04:57 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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I guarantee you that hospitals are losing massive amounts of money treating covid patients on Medicare




"Making Bank" is relative. If you don't think 40K is a lot, I'll gladly take it off your hands. Nitpicking my words just because hospitals are running into a deficit (like most every other fucking business in America) isn't the point, it's a distraction from the point. The POINT is that they're making a lot more money than the would be otherwise by inflating the numbers of covid cases/deaths.

And furthermore, it's not just medicare that is involved, it's insurance, too. And I have no fucking clue how much money that is, but my spider sense tells me it's no small amount.


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Still waiting for any evidence hospitals are faking covid patients




So there's this video you can go digging for if you'd like. It's the first post on the first page of this thread.


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Re: Motorcycle Crash Victim Included in FL Covid-19 Fatality Numbers [Re: Vahn421] * 2
    #26829430 - 07/17/20 05:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

You mean the link for Facebook? I’m talking about legitimate evidence.


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Re: Motorcycle Crash Victim Included in FL Covid-19 Fatality Numbers [Re: koods] * 1
    #26829432 - 07/17/20 05:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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The POINT is that they're making a lot more money than the would be otherwise by inflating the numbers of covid cases/deaths.




Source or make believe?


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Re: Motorcycle Crash Victim Included in FL Covid-19 Fatality Numbers [Re: koods]
    #26829442 - 07/17/20 05:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Google, "Florida Covid-cases" and do your own research. There's a lot more evidence littered around, like this video. It's not hard to figure this out.


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Re: Motorcycle Crash Victim Included in FL Covid-19 Fatality Numbers [Re: Vahn421] * 3
    #26829511 - 07/17/20 05:58 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

You make the claim you provide the evidence to back it up. It’s either that or your wrong that’s how things work here .


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Re: Motorcycle Crash Victim Included in FL Covid-19 Fatality Numbers [Re: Psilynut2]
    #26829570 - 07/17/20 06:36 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Indeed:

2) Although this may not always be possible (for example quoting from print only sources), when quoting a source provide a link.


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Re: Motorcycle Crash Victim Included in FL Covid-19 Fatality Numbers [Re: SirTripAlot] * 1
    #26829611 - 07/17/20 06:59 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Do I  need a source to say Florida is fucking stupid and we should just saw that bullshit off and sell it to Russia ? That’s common sense right ?


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Re: Motorcycle Crash Victim Included in FL Covid-19 Fatality Numbers [Re: koods]
    #26829614 - 07/17/20 07:01 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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koods said:
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Vahn421 said:
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koods said:
Nobody makes more money for reporting a covid death.



The POINT is that they're making a lot more money than the would be otherwise by inflating the numbers of covid cases/deaths.



Source or make believe?



I found this on factcheck.org:
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It is true, however, that the government will pay more to hospitals for COVID-19 cases in two senses: By paying an additional 20% on top of traditional Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients during the public health emergency, and by reimbursing hospitals for treating the uninsured patients with the disease (at that enhanced Medicare rate).

Both of those provisions stem from the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act, or CARES Act.



So koods was wrong about them not making more.

However, factcheck.org also feels the frequency of misreporting covid-19 is very low based on interviews with three medical professionals.


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Re: Motorcycle Crash Victim Included in FL Covid-19 Fatality Numbers [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
    #26829617 - 07/17/20 07:02 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Do I  need a source to say Florida is fucking stupid and we should just saw that bullshit off and sell it to Russia ? That’s common sense right ?






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Re: Motorcycle Crash Victim Included in FL Covid-19 Fatality Numbers [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26829619 - 07/17/20 07:04 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, look to florida. They knew covid 19 was fake news, kept everything open and 2 months later they are still the lowest infection ra... oh wait:laugh:


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Re: Motorcycle Crash Victim Included in FL Covid-19 Fatality Numbers [Re: C12ShroomMan]
    #26829637 - 07/17/20 07:13 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Covid is real, but its threat has been grossly exaggerated.

https://covidusa.net/?state=Florida

Look at the daily cases number go WAY up while the death number just... almost stays in the same place the entire time.

This is just super weird to me. It's so hard to pinpoint how much they are lying about, but these two stats next to each other make absolutely no sense. There are enough weeks on the chart that there should be SOME correlation...

It's just odd...



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Re: Motorcycle Crash Victim Included in FL Covid-19 Fatality Numbers [Re: Vahn421]
    #26829667 - 07/17/20 07:49 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Covid is real, but its threat has been grossly exaggerated.

Look at the daily cases number go WAY up while the death number just... almost stays in the same place the entire time.

This is just super weird to me. It's so hard to pinpoint how much they are lying about, but these two stats next to each other make absolutely no sense. There are enough weeks on the chart that there should be SOME correlation...



You don't see the correlation because both graphs use the same scale, and the deaths scale is too small to see.

From your link, here is what deaths looks like on its own scale:

Yes, deaths are going up in Florida.


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Re: Motorcycle Crash Victim Included in FL Covid-19 Fatality Numbers [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 3
    #26829685 - 07/17/20 07:59 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

What is very likely underestimated/under-reported is the permanent organ damage that's done by this virus. We are just getting the studies that indicate the organ damage from people that had even minor symptoms from this virus.

So maybe stop fixating on just the deaths and give a little more attention to the long term ramifications from contracting the virus.

My theory is that the US media is purposely ignoring this horrible aspect of the virus to not create panic in the general population. That's why so many people just focus on the death rates and think not dying is some sort of free pass, when in fact it's not.


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Re: Motorcycle Crash Victim Included in FL Covid-19 Fatality Numbers [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26829702 - 07/17/20 08:09 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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Vahn421 said:
Covid is real, but its threat has been grossly exaggerated.

Look at the daily cases number go WAY up while the death number just... almost stays in the same place the entire time.

This is just super weird to me. It's so hard to pinpoint how much they are lying about, but these two stats next to each other make absolutely no sense. There are enough weeks on the chart that there should be SOME correlation...



You don't see the correlation because both graphs use the same scale, and the deaths scale is too small to see.

From your link, here is what deaths looks like on its own scale:

Yes, deaths are going up in Florida.




Actually yeah if you look real closely on the first graph you can barely see that red line creeping up at the end.

So Florida is right around double the number of deaths per day we were 90 days ago.

However, they're having more than ten times the number of cases as they were 90 days ago.

I smell a rat!


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