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Anonymous #6
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It was a rescue I got him from and returned him to, not a shelter. It's likely they found him a different home; when I checked their listings I saw they had put a new one up for him including nice things that I'd written about him to help him be adopted by someone else.
I thought the same thing at first about him having had experiences with previous owners that didn't last long. Honestly though, I think that's another example of people ascribing human emotions to dogs that they just aren't capable of.
He just didn't like living with me, whether it was me personally, he wanted to be around more people, or more dogs, or whatever. I didn't just stick with it for years hoping things would get better because that would have made me unhappy. That's nice for you that you waited years for your dog to stop acting out and being mopey, and that you're ok with a dog who doesn't care to be affectionate with you and likes to be left alone. But I see no value in that relationship for me. It doesn't have to be measurably equal, but I did expect to get some enjoyment out of the relationship considering all the energy and affection and time and money I put in to trying to make him feel happy and welcome and loved. Some people get that back from their dogs many times over, but I didn't.
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Anonymous #2
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"Dogs are not social creatures. They can't be ascribed the status of "alpha" because being an alpha means holding a particular status in society, and dogs don't have a society."
African wild dogs / painted dogs would disagree and they have have separate patriarchal and matriarchal hierarchies and even a crude form of voting on when to hunt.
The dog didn't attack your old man because he was clearly the alpha and the position wasn't disputed, a stranger trying the same thing will get a rude surprise, unless its just a lazy dog.
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Anonymous #3
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Not liking dogs is unamerican and I won’t stand for it!
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Anonymous #1
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Anonymous #2 said: African wild dogs / painted dogs would disagree and they have have separate patriarchal and matriarchal hierarchies and even a crude form of voting on when to hunt.
That's interesting behavior - the research shows they even "vote" by "sneezing", which is fascinating. Nevertheless, we're not talking about Painted Dogs. We're talking about Canis lupus familiaris, the domesticated dog, and the gap between Painted Dogs and Domesticated Dogs is a large one (both species-wise and lifestyle wise). Domesticated dogs do not observe those same sorts of behaviors because they typically don't live in packs and they don't hunt. They live in symbiotic relationships with human beings - they're not pack animals like the Painted Dogs are. They're descended from pack animals just as we are descended from Homo erectus. It's not reasonable to jump to the conclusion that domesticated dogs will observe social hierarchies that transcend species (from dog to human) just because their genetic ancestors observe social hierarchies among themselves, just as it is unreasonable for us to assume that humans behave the same way that Homo erectus did.
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Anonymous #2 said: The dog didn't attack your old man because he was clearly the alpha and the position wasn't disputed, a stranger trying the same thing will get a rude surprise, unless its just a lazy dog.
I'd say that you are projecting your own analysis of my dad's social status onto the pet dog I had as a child.
Edited by Anonymous (07/22/20 04:23 PM)
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Anonymous #4
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Anonymous #1 said: It's not reasonable to jump to the conclusion that domesticated dogs will observe social hierarchies
Yeah that's retarded.
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Anonymous #8
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Im in the same boat. I dont like dogs. Well, I should say, I dont like most dogs. Some are cool. Most i find annoying, too needy or too aggressive (or all three).
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Anonymous #9
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I never met an animal I really didn't like just because of its species. That's pretty weird to me.
But whatever man. If you're not going out and hunting them it's a huge whatever. Whatever makes you happy. There's plenty of people out there who don't like dogs, you're not alone.
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