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Store coco&verm mix how long?
    #26828558 - 07/17/20 09:37 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

How long can you store(use) a coco&verm bulk substrate?
I have one ready that been standing for around 5months would be practical to use that again if its no problem.
Otherwise i guess i have to do a new one.

I understand that it would be problematic when the substrate is on Hpoo but dont see the problem with the coco.
Thanks.


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Re: Store coco&verm mix how long? [Re: shootoox]
    #26828569 - 07/17/20 09:45 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I had it stored for 1 month without a problem,
but i guess 5 months are too much.
But if there`s no mold in, why not?
I would do a re-pasteurization anyway.


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Re: Store coco&verm mix how long? [Re: Goatrider]
    #26828628 - 07/17/20 10:23 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Consider what you have to gain and what you have to lose by taking the gamble.

Potential gain:

  • The time and money of buying coir/verm and prepping it. So maybe $5-10 and one day.



Potential loss:

  • The old coir/verm you tried to save.
  • Your spawn.
  • The grain in your spawn + the prep of it.
  • The supplies used to get your inoculant like agar and all the related supplies.
  • Weeks, maybe months of time.


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Re: Store coco&verm mix how long? [Re: Sir Pentinite]
    #26828730 - 07/17/20 11:09 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know if it'd help in the future or not. I get things ready in bulk then freeze it. When it's needed let defrost and give them a wipe, good to go. I've had success doing this, even very long term. If its been stored well, give it a smell.


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Re: Store coco&verm mix how long? [Re: Sir Pentinite]
    #26828752 - 07/17/20 11:20 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Sir Pentinite said:
Consider what you have to gain and what you have to lose by taking the gamble.

Potential gain:

  • The time and money of buying coir/verm and prepping it. So maybe $5-10 and one day.



Potential loss:

  • The old coir/verm you tried to save.
  • Your spawn.
  • The grain in your spawn + the prep of it.
  • The supplies used to get your inoculant like agar and all the related supplies.
  • Weeks, maybe months of time.




This right here^^^

I left Coco/verm hydrated in a bucket for about 2 week and it had begun to mold... Ymmv, but that was my experience.


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Re: Store coco&verm mix how long? [Re: Trichodingus]
    #26829214 - 07/17/20 03:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Okey with those answers i probably gonna need to do it over again.
I havent even opened up the bucket but its probably mold in there i guess.

Thanks for the input guys.


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Re: Store coco&verm mix how long? [Re: shootoox]
    #26829322 - 07/17/20 04:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

At the moment it's both still good to use or extremely worthless to you :smile:


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Re: Store coco&verm mix how long? [Re: shootoox]
    #26830087 - 07/18/20 01:56 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

shootoox said:
Okey with those answers i probably gonna need to do it over again.
I havent even opened up the bucket but its probably mold in there i guess.

Thanks for the input guys.




Yeah, i also wouldn`t take the risk to fuck up a big mono.

I just made a shoebox with the 1 month old coir,
as i didn`t have good genetics for an experiment.
It went out fine, but fresh coir is made fast.


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