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Vahn421
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Re: Everything is going to be fine. [Re: Enlil]
#26827675 - 07/16/20 07:20 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Spend a week black and you'd feel differently.
The black people I look up to most... people who put their mind to it and got there... Morgan Freeman, Terry Crews, David Webb, Kanye West, the Hodge Twins, "Some Black Guy," Brandon Tatum, Larry Elder, Raheem Babalola, The Amazing Lucas, LongBeachGriffy, etc... etc... you see they share the same VALUES as me, regardless of their skin color.
And because I'm not black, the closest I can get is listening to black people who share my VALUES.
They agree with my perspective and not yours.
Wrong. Every one of those people have white privilege stories.
*Shrug* I have to assume you're assuming.
"do you think that race plays a part in wealth distribution or either a mindset that you cant ..."
"Today? No. You and I. We're proof. Why would race have anything to do with it? Stick your mind to what you want to do and go for that. It's kind of like religion to me. It's a good excuse for not getting there."
(And then he gets Don Lemon himself to admit he's so sick of talking about race, but he's basically a slave to the CNN narrative. Lemon also has a light in his eyes still he's lost now.)
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Re: Everything is going to be fine. [Re: Vahn421]
#26827681 - 07/16/20 07:27 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Since you put so much faith in Morgan Freeman. Here is a quote from him;
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We can show the world, Look, this is what happened in that situation. So why are so many people dying in police custody? And why are they all black? And why are all the police killing them white? What is that?
https://www.newsweek.com/morgan-freeman-baltimore-and-terrorism-we-suffer-police-327300
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Vahn421
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Re: Everything is going to be fine. [Re: christopera]
#26827696 - 07/16/20 07:38 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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A fair quote to challenge.
Just because we share values doesn't mean we share every perspective, nor can I assume that anyone I look up to has all the information. NOR does this statement NEGATE his much more powerful one that I've shared. Also, I've never said pockets of racism don't exist, but it isn't among the cops at any particular higher frequency than anywhere else. It can't possibly be racism if all cops, including black ones, are involved at the same frequency of shootings. (They are. There is no exclusive "white cop" problem in our nation. If there are problems in our police force, it's simply "cops" period.)
The answer to those questions Freeman is asking is easy, though. it's because the media selectively shows black on white crime. (Have you EVER seen a story of a black cop shooting an unarmed white man go viral? If so, it's one in a blue moon.)
Actual police statistics prove that ANY cops of ANY color shooting unarmed black men is actually incredibly rare. It only happened 13 times last year in a nation of 40,000,000 black people. If you research those 13 cases, half of the suspects showed unarmed aggression towards the cops, and with the others a few cops were fired and/or punished for their misconduct. It is likely less than 5 cases that actually went without justice being served.
And that's 5 too many BUT, clearly the problem isn't as bad as the media is making it. Sometimes it takes a while to figure it out.
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Re: Everything is going to be fine. [Re: Vahn421]
#26827730 - 07/16/20 07:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do you really think that race in law enforcement, boils down to one narrow, carefully worded statistic? 13 unarmed black men? There are so many other stats man!
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Edited by SirTripAlot (07/16/20 08:04 PM)
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meltdowner
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Re: Everything is going to be fine. [Re: Enlil]
#26827954 - 07/16/20 10:38 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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False.
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Re: Everything is going to be fine. [Re: meltdowner]
#26828246 - 07/17/20 05:55 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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meltdowner said: False.
I have to give you credit. Even though I disagree with almost everything you say, your posts are brief. You have a wife, a kid, a job; you have other things to do. You will still be here in November. And one of us will be able to give the other a bunch of shit about the election.
Unlike somebody we know, who I'm giving 72 hours over/under before the ban.
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Re: Everything is going to be fine. [Re: Brian Jones]
#26828267 - 07/17/20 06:24 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks Brian, that's about the nicest thing you ever said to me. I dont want to gloat if Trump wins btw.
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Vahn421
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Re: Everything is going to be fine. [Re: Brian Jones]
#26828639 - 07/17/20 10:28 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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meltdowner said: False.
I have to give you credit. Even though I disagree with almost everything you say, your posts are brief. You have a wife, a kid, a job; you have other things to do. You will still be here in November. And one of us will be able to give the other a bunch of shit about the election.
Unlike somebody we know, who I'm giving 72 hours over/under before the ban.
If you're so confident, let's make a money wager.
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