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Amanita muscaria var. guessowii?
    #26827068 - 07/16/20 02:07 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I'm thinking that these are Amanita muscaria var. guessowii.  I've read that they are magic but also read that the North American version can be dangerous. I am in upstate New York USA. Would love to hear if anyone has had experience with these.



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Re: Amanita muscaria var. guessowii? [Re: Gladrich]
    #26827125 - 07/16/20 02:41 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yessir. Id advise agaist consuming this species.

They are not psychedelic the drug in them is a nuerotoxin.


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Re: Amanita muscaria var. guessowii? [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26827233 - 07/16/20 03:38 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for that!! I put these on Mushroom Observer and they think its Amanita flavorubens. Do you know if Amanita flavorubens psychedelic?

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Re: Amanita muscaria var. guessowii? [Re: Gladrich]
    #26827584 - 07/16/20 06:33 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

No amanitas are psychedelic. many of them contain amatoxins the most deadly of all mushrooms. Dont ever eat a mushroom with white gills there is a good chance you will die. What part of the east coast do you dwell i could probably point you to the mushrooms that contain psilocybin in your area.


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Re: Amanita muscaria var. guessowii? [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26827873 - 07/16/20 09:27 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Those look more like A. flavorubens than guessowii to me. And I'm pretty sure A. muscaria var. guessowii is fine to consume for psychoactive effects as long as you decarboxylate the iboetnic acid, just like any other A. muscaria.


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Re: Amanita muscaria var. guessowii? [Re: breeg89]
    #26828248 - 07/17/20 05:57 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Those look more like A. flavorubens than guessowii to me.




I'm with Breeg on this one. Thays not guessowii, Am. Guessowii usually dint appear until colder more wet months. Theyll pop up along side the "normal" amanita muscaria.


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Re: Amanita muscaria var. guessowii? [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26828290 - 07/17/20 06:47 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Shroomhunts, I am close to Albany NY.

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Re: Amanita muscaria var. guessowii? [Re: Gladrich]
    #26828409 - 07/17/20 08:24 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Your best bet is to hunt panaelous cinctulus in lawns or horse pastures. They are growing all over the place where you live right now.


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Re: Amanita muscaria var. guessowii? [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26828737 - 07/17/20 11:11 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Flavorubens for sure. This is not A. muscaria.


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Re: Amanita muscaria var. guessowii? [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26829122 - 07/17/20 02:20 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Gladrich said:
Shroomhunts, I am close to Albany NY.

Thank you.



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Your best bet is to hunt panaelous cinctulus in lawns or horse pastures. They are growing all over the place where you live right now.




P. caerulipes is another one to have on your radar albeit more difficult to find since it's so small. They start popping up when the nights cool down - mid August usually. Happy to answer any questions you may have.


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Re: Amanita muscaria var. guessowii? [Re: MentalPariah]
    #26829426 - 07/17/20 04:57 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Those look more like A. flavorubens than guessowii to me.




I'm with Breeg on this one. Thays not guessowii, Am. Guessowii usually dint appear until colder more wet months. Theyll pop up along side the "normal" amanita muscaria.



I agree with you guys, This is a very good example of why you want to carefully dig up the entire stipe. If you notice, the above specimens have some tell tale signs that they are not any variety of muscaria.

1st one that should be a red flag is the reddish bruising where they are injured or handled,  I see it in the last picture, if that color isn't there and that's artifact, it's not Amanita flavorubens.

The 2nd obvious reason is that there are no concentric rings at the base of the stipe,  Amanita muscaria and the varities of muscaria will have 3 concentric rings formed by the universal veil at the base of the stipe


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