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Rye to bulk?
    #26823892 - 07/14/20 08:28 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

To my fellow mycologists,
I have in the past only done PF Tek. I got tired of PF Tek and wanted to try something new. I now have 50 pint jars of grain, most of them fully colonized. How do I progress from here? What needs to be done to move them to a bulk substrate and get some fruits? And how long should it take to fruiting?
Oh, my environment is indoors and temperatures usually 75-76.


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Re: Rye to bulk? [Re: pitriot]
    #26823988 - 07/14/20 09:16 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Once colonized you spawn the rye to a bulk substrate. Use this tek to prepare the coir verm.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595

Now I don’t like the way he does monotubs, I recommend this configuration for the chamber.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26140339/fpart/1/vc/1/nt/13

After you spawn it don’t worry about taping holes or keeping it in the dark. Just give it light on a 12/12 cycle and let it do its thing.


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Re: Rye to bulk? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26824135 - 07/14/20 11:10 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

pastys EZ dialed work fucking awsum actually👍👍 when i was still growin cubes i switched over to that design on all of my tubs. if and when i ever grow cubes again that is what i will use. they work perfectly and pretty much just take care of themselves 🤘🤘


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Re: Rye to bulk? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26824150 - 07/14/20 11:23 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

thank you for your help. I had a look at the tek.
1 Brick of Coir
2 Quarts of Verm
5 Quarts of Spawn

Am I correct to assume that 1 brick is about 1.5 lbs?

Seems most of the substrate is made up of the spawn. Why is coir and vermiculite even needed?

I was looking online to buy some coir and it seems pretty pricey. How much weight is normal from this setup?

And what size monopod do I use?

Thanks again for your wisdom


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Re: Rye to bulk? [Re: pitriot]
    #26824191 - 07/15/20 12:19 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

A brick of coir is 650~ grams and will expand to 8-10 quarts of media once hydrated. If you pay more than $3 a brick it’s probably too much.


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Re: Rye to bulk? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26824512 - 07/15/20 07:08 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Where do you buy coir? On Amazon the cheapest I found was $8. I checked a local Home Depot and had nothing.

Do I understand correctly that you just put all in the mono tub and give light 12/12 from start? Do leave tub cover off? Do you mist or hydrate in any way?


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Re: Rye to bulk? [Re: pitriot]
    #26824617 - 07/15/20 08:28 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Go to a pet store and look in the reptile section.


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Re: Rye to bulk? [Re: pitriot]
    #26824631 - 07/15/20 08:34 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Where do you buy coir? On Amazon the cheapest I found was $8. I checked a local Home Depot and had nothing.

Do I understand correctly that you just put all in the mono tub and give light 12/12 from start? Do leave tub cover off? Do you mist or hydrate in any way?




I buy mine from IKEA, if you live in northern Europe I believe they have the cheapest coir around.


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Re: Rye to bulk? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26826999 - 07/16/20 01:25 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I got coir and I have vermiculite. I thought I have 4 - 5 quarts of spawn. The mono tub is my bottleneck.
I have three tubs that are 50 something quart size. I have used them in the past as fruiting chamber for PF Tek cakes.  But they have 1/4" holes at about every 2 inch, including the cover. (See picture.) Is it possible to use of them for this bulk substrate? If so would I line the bottom with black plastic? Do I leave/cover/which holes?



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Re: Rye to bulk? [Re: pitriot]
    #26827039 - 07/16/20 01:49 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Trying to make a monotub out of a SGFC is like trying to make a truck out of a car. You might be able to do it and it might even work. But shit gonna be less than ideal. I would keep the SGFC’s since they are handy for gourmet and exotic species and buy new tubs for monos. I would follow this tek.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26140339/fpart/1/vc/1/nt/13


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Re: Rye to bulk? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26833120 - 07/19/20 07:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Thank you so much for your help.

I was going through your instructions on building a tub.
Let me check that I have this right. Excluding the extra hole on the bottom on each narrow side, it will be a total of 16 holes – 3 at 5” from the bottom on the wide sides and 5 towards the top on the narrow sides ?

I am not in a dry climate, but my A/C is 24/7. I live in South Florida.

Instead of drilling I would use soldering iron.

I also see black (?) plastic lining the bottom of the tub. Is that a plastic garbage bag cut to fit? Is there anything else I should know?

Nothing on the cover? BTW my cover is not translucent (the container is) is that a problem?


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    #26844986 - 07/25/20 05:48 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Rye to bulk? [Re: mycologists]
    #26845127 - 07/25/20 08:11 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Where are you located?
I am in south Florida and finally found 11 lbs for $15.98. It was from Home Depot online free store picked.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Vermont-Organics-Reclamation-Soil-11-lb-Coir-Block-COIR11LB/300679904?cm_mmc=ecc-_-THD_ORDER_CONFIRMATION_BOSS_STH-_-V1_M1_CA-_-Product_URL&ecc_ord=WM11951265


If you find anything cheaper please share it.


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Re: Rye to bulk? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #26874174 - 08/10/20 09:47 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I followed your Ez dialed monotub. I have substrate sitting in it for exactly 2 weeks. Here is what it looks like. Do you think it is doing ok as far as AE/GE and humidity? I didn't add the optional hole.



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Re: Rye to bulk? [Re: pitriot]
    #26874241 - 08/10/20 10:48 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Surface looks good but you might need some more FAE. I would drill the extra hole on the short sides.


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