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Come up Closed Eye Visuals
    #26823482 - 07/14/20 04:40 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Hello ladies and gentlemen,

I’ve noticed a particular theme with mushrooms and with come up CEVs.

I know when the mushrooms are working. I don’t mean when you start to feel those funny sensations in your body. No I mean the next phase when you close your eyes and suddenly that blind blank black space behind your eyelids becomes full of colour, shapes, and themes.

It always seems stronger at the start, too.

Would you mind sharing with me your mushroom come up closed eye visuals?

I tend to see the following:

- swirling vortex; could be faces, creatures, or just phenomena
- circles of people, often of different colours. Like the umpalumpas from Willy Wonka.
- snakes, eyes, lizards, fractals, geometric patterns. Somehow alive and moving towards me, generally in arcs.
- like I am the camera in an endoscope, that is pushed down a patient’s throat. You see the flesh coming towards you as it is spread apart by the camera. This is the hardest to face, for me; it can feel like you’re goi g to be suffocated if you keep your eyes closed!

Especially during the come up, I often find myself laughing to myself, more for self-comfort, while opening my eyes......that I don’t NEED to have my eyes closed.

After years of this shit, I know it can’t hurt me, but it always is really intimidating.

What are your thoughts.

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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26823487 - 07/14/20 04:45 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Centipede/EeL like huge parasitic looking wormy terrifying bacterial looking things.  That was the worst the most insidious / darkest I’ve seen - just counting the initial visuals near the come up - but the trip was great. 

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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26823573 - 07/14/20 05:36 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I'm one of those people who is permanently on level 3 on this scale :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed-eye_hallucination

Normally I see sort blobs of color moving around without any real distinct shapes but on mushrooms I begin to see proper fractal patterns with vivid color rather than sort of dull ones and I sometimes see actual objects form too, usually something I am actually thinking of. Music begins to also have dramatic effect on the patterns, rather than just affecting them a little like in my normal state.

I haven't really tried to explore the closed eyes state during trips, it is in my todo list to do so though, particularly with music involved ~


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26823583 - 07/14/20 05:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

hmm my closed eye visuals during come-up are very varied. I am also not able to control them entirely, like "they" choose whatever form they want to take and I can maybe navigate through themes if I focus very hard.

I've seen:
-plants, leaves, vines, trees, jungles, etc.
-Faces, sometimes like samurai masks, sometimes like clowns or sharp-toothed goblins, they usually take a red tint when I feel they are "menacing", otherwise they are whatever color I think about.
-Animal furs or feathers, sometimes mixed with plants as well.
-Tribal-looking people. Can't really tell if they represent some specific ethnic group or population. (Sorry if my wording isn't correct on this subject, English is my second language)
-Eyes. Animal eyes sometimes as well.
-Spirals and fractals. Not geometric/kaleidoscopic patterns though
-unintelligible blobs of flesh that morph into any of the above. Not scary but really a head-scratcher if you try to make any sense out of them

What I've noticed too is that the amount of light from the outside hitting my eyelids affects the color and how vivid the visuals are. Because most of my trips have been outside during daytime, these CEVs were never so vivid for myself to ever think they could pose a threat. They do pique my curiosity because I wonder WHY am I seeing them. I sometimes get hold of a parallel thought or memory that I can assume might have triggered a special subset of visuals. Kind of like dream interpretation I guess?

Anyhow, for me personally, these visuals stop being so important once the body and ego dissolution sets in.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: jomanda1990]
    #26823652 - 07/14/20 06:12 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I'll second that:

  Hmmm, mine are also varied but I can shortly account one.


  I had eaten 4g for the first time. The anxiety, was rising and rising. I felt as if I was struggling to breathe; every breathe created more anxiety. I was on the verge of freaking the fuck out. I thought, I poisoned my self, I took too much, IM FUCKING DYING. I quickly gathered my thoughts about how the dose is not close to lethal and of course their the correct mushrooms. And I thought, "well if I'm dying then this it and nothing I can do now."

  I had my eyes closed. All I could see is black. Then a white light appeared. It got close fast, it was a light bulb in a hanging lamp. All that was illuminated was just under this light and I found my self standing across from something that looked like a person. They were in the fedal position experiencing terror. I myself was not worried at all but I felt this other thing radiating the exact same feelings I had moments ago. I thought that this thing which I perceived as me was being pathetic for letting those fears cripple it/me. I saw what those things made me. I crouched down and said "it's alright, come on."  I snapped back into my room at that moment.

Edit: my gf told me that I was groaning like I was having an intense dream.

Also side note. People want to say this shit is fun? Holy hell once you get in there it's more like putting pants on in a burning bush during a hurricane. You learn about your self quick.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26824192 - 07/15/20 12:20 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah it’s not just me then! The initial CEVs are so “organic”. In fact someone last week talked bout going into an “organic tunnel”; I fully get that.

And I didn’t mention, I also see the clowns; “clowns” doesn’t do them justice though. A combination of evil clowns, sharp teeth, lots of white and or red clothing, sort of harlequin jester clowns. Always look evil, but only occasionally do they freak me out.

I had my first trip at the weekend in months. It was quite a slow gentle come up, and was during a very bright day (I chickened out of my normal nighttime routine). It was so gentle that I didn’t really think I was tripping up until about the 90 minute mark. I couldn’t see the CEVs. But I got a desire to listen to Hawkwind, so put my shades on, baseball cap, headphones and switched on. Hawkwind instantly sounded amazing, and the slight shade from my cap revealed that the CEVs were actually fecking wild! Really organic, and lots of snake eyes, looking sideways at me.

I started chuckling to myself, as you do, that I didn’t NEED to close my eyes :eek:

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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26824247 - 07/15/20 01:13 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Based on this thread and my own highest dose visuals there seems to be this carnival/circus motif that increasesin intensity with the dose. Reminds me of descriptions by McKenna for example about the machine elves and other bizarre entertainment. What the hell is all that and why is mine and everyone's question


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26824289 - 07/15/20 01:59 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Some of my favorite eye closed visuals are of mushrooms growing. I’ll see them start as colorful pins then grow all the way out till the caps fold backwards then everything just goes squiggling and goes into fractals. Sometimes i close my eyes and see my trichocereus cactuses growing also and I know exactly what cactus it is and normally it has other plants growing in a spiral around it as it gets taller. I love closed eye visuals, last time I tripped my buddy showed my this really cool guitar and later in the trip I sat down and closed my eyes and I could see the exact guitar and it had waves of color pulsating off of it it every direction. Good times for sure I could go on and on...


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26824300 - 07/15/20 02:10 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

LOL yea I asked my sister what she experienced after eating a bunch of APE caps. She said it was like a demonic carnival ride. Ive definitely gotten to the diabolical circus range of psychedelia as well but I thought it was just me so I was kind of relieved when it occurred to my sister too.

CEVs:
-Faces (Greys, political and historical figures [shits creepy but I can deal] example: George bush, Obama, grey aliens, reptilians, Hillary Clinton, Cesare borgia )
-Snakes, serpents, ouroboros
-Massive, complex aztec machinery, living stone structures which rotate almost in zero gravity
-Net of Indra type visualisations, imagining interconnected human beings all part of a grid and fusing into oneness. Like a silhouette of a man in the form of particles and then those waves of particles disintegrate and blend with surrounding environment.

Not to mention my favourite,
reaction diffusion ! Very prominent pattern in nature and in tripping ! Organic mathematics...
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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: Faustian]
    #26824468 - 07/15/20 06:23 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

This thread is awesome. I definitely agree with the circus aspects; I often describe a mushroom trip as a cross between a rollercoaster and a merry go round. With all the harlequins thrown in.

I get the machinery, but it isn’t usually Aztec, it’s more a case of rooms filled with gears.

I have heard McKenna’s machine elves described many times; but I do not get anything I would describe as elvish (not in The Lord of The Rings style, anyway). I would describe them closer to hoards of goblins.

Like from this Michael Moorcock book cover:



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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26824696 - 07/15/20 09:05 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

My first few times the CEVs were very vivid orange,yellow & white pulsing candy corn shapes that had words on them that you never could read because they pulsed in and out so fast. The last few times its been darker geometric fractals that pulsed in & out but a lot slower without words.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: Cardinals1970]
    #26824867 - 07/15/20 10:25 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Has anyone ever done the full 5g in total darkness? Honestly, you didn’t open your eyes for the full duration of the trip?

I’m no wuss, I don’t think, but at times, especially in the come up, the closed eye visuals can feel suffocating; so I have to “come up for air” by opening my eyes!

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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26824899 - 07/15/20 10:42 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Of course it's exactly like that. You gotta breathe.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26824975 - 07/15/20 11:30 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Tried drawing from some fungi induced visions for this one.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26824979 - 07/15/20 11:34 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I think I know what you mean. It's like you can't get away from them and they seem distracting. One trip they even felt purposefully so, which brings me back to the demonic carnival theme that the visuals are distracting you from something! They were a nuisance and I much more liked to be open eyed in that trip. Now that I think about it, the times I have taken mushrooms, very little I have actually spent closed eyed. Just enough to get an idea. I want to go deeper than my highest dose (https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26779466) and observe the bizarreness


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26824984 - 07/15/20 11:36 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

So does a different state of mind emerge after focusing on breath and observing the CEVs ?


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26824987 - 07/15/20 11:37 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Let “them” (visual hallucination) do their worst.  Then you’ll see their true nature. A big happy surprise comes. 


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26824997 - 07/15/20 11:40 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I can understand that :manofapproval:


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26824999 - 07/15/20 11:40 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

What dose do you like to take?


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26825004 - 07/15/20 11:42 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

4.5g dry Ape / Tea , gets me where I want to be.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26825017 - 07/15/20 11:50 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

When did you settle on that dose? That's like 9g regulars?


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26825023 - 07/15/20 11:52 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I've eaten 46g wet before and that was such a gentle trip. Not super intense but very gentle non the less. The dry experiences do seem to put me through the ringer but I also dose higher. So I'm not sure.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26825032 - 07/15/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

In 2016.  Clone Apes 🦍 , they feel at least twice as strong as my Mazatapec and Amazonians.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26825037 - 07/15/20 11:56 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

And I also meant to ask that how much experience did you get with lower doses before going that high?


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26825056 - 07/15/20 12:05 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

If you ever read the Tibetan book of the dead it mentions that the wanderer must not become overwhelmed or distracted by the lights and visions.
I personally try to dive into the spiral as hard as possible.
It seems there are others on the other side, waiting.
I only ever fully crossed over once. Then I returned.

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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26825063 - 07/15/20 12:09 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

My trip at the weekend from frozen fresh tea PES Amazonian.

What are your thoughts on Amazonian? I think it could be quite the sinister style trip.,quite dark and foreboding?

I only thought about this afterwards, but wondered why I’d got so many snakes. The large one coming in from the side looked just like an anaconda from an ayahuasca video I was watching last night? Coincidence that I had “Amazonian” on my mind, and the creatures I saw were Amazonian?

And I can fully reconcile with your picture, The Blind Ass :cheers:

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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26825067 - 07/15/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Started at 1.5g dry of dealer shrooms (idk what variety it was).  Stuck with that for 3-4 trips.  Then onto 3g for another 2 trips, then 3.5gs is where I sat for a while - 3-4 trips at that dose.  Then 4g once, then 4.5g once, and 5g 3 times and 6.5gs twice.  All with Amazonians.
I love Amazonians!  They were the first thing I grew and the stems were beastly thick.  I always want to have a few jars going of those puppies 🐶.  Love em.

Then I started experimenting with MS APE and my first trip with those was 4.4grams and it was truly phenomenal.  Got to learning and a friend helped me clone some fruits and have been sticking with 4.5g since 2016. I trip that specific dose & clone  2-4 times a year, that’s what works for me & what I work with..  .

To me, trips & dreaming & normal life experience are all synonymous.  3 angles/points of view on the same thing, but each with their own unique vantage point and pros & cons.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26825122 - 07/15/20 12:33 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I have amazonians waiting and it was first time with them. Mine were super thick, I was surprised as tohow aggressive they were. I had 5 flushes from them. Haven't tried them yet but I did eat a tiny mushroom I accidentally knocked off and it gave a very weird sensation. I wasn't expecting that from such a tiny dose. Dried it must have weight around 0.1g.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26825134 - 07/15/20 12:37 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I have only had Ecuador that I grew myself this year. I had 2 dealer shroom trips as a highscooler though. Seems to be a good variety. I have noticed two different phenotypes: short and dense, and long and big and less dense. Maybe it's just to do with the substrate and amount of spawn.

I agree they are all different view points and experiences of the same whole. Like different parts and scopes of mind and soul. Dreams are the most chaotic and narrow experience and mushroom trips are like a weird hybrid of being awake and dreaming whilst also being high or under the influence clearly.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26825201 - 07/15/20 01:01 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Amazonians gave me my first crystal clear vision trip, one where the visuals were not of reality warping and all that, but as if more reality had been revealed as always there & juxtaposed onto what was already existing.  Everything in the room stayed the same except for the persistent vision.  Didn’t matter if I had eyes open or closed or washed my face, the walls were lined with this 1 part superstructure in what seemed a language of sorts or symbols and 1 part living spirit that could be interacted with and which responded to sound & thought / volition.

I could walk perfectly fine and talk well and see perfectly.  I’d walk right up to the wall and my my face near to the hallucination and try to shake my head or blink a lot and make it go away - but it/they all remained & persisted for about 1 hr.  A  hallucination, composed of what seemed akin to what I’d imagine celestial light to be.  The room was completely dark - save for some moon beams streaking in through the window, which on their own were stainless radiance.  It was juxtaposed onto almost every surface and was 3-D.  The “living spirit” part was beyond cool, it completely stymied my intellect so much so that I had to abandon it.  I just couldn’t believe it, it was impossible..yet I was perceiving it.

It was like an entirely new world, an actual world that exists in our own world - or rather, more of the world etched on to ours but on another frequency or in another dimension, but intersecting with our own.
  I’m not saying I believe that, just that experientially, that’s how it played out.

That’s where I want to be, not having the bed warping and the walls morphing and seeing faces in the rug - though that’s fine too.  to go beyond beyond to the other side.

And that’s part of why I’ll always love Amazonians. 


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26825234 - 07/15/20 01:17 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Interesting hallucination for sure. On a 20g fresh dose I can see the ceiling, which is of concrete and has this jagged surface, immediately form a web of these specks, like it's impossible to see it without the pattern trying to form in front of my eyes. But it never becomes something symmetrical. Then it is like a frame of that is cut out and it starts to drift, so there are two frames of this ceiling pattern in my vision. IT is very intriguing to look at. I guess our minds just like symmetry and patterns so much.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26825253 - 07/15/20 01:24 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Interesting.....


It made me ponder if sometime in the future (millions or billions or whatever years) if some species will evolve to become adapted for space.  As in, be able to survive in space with just their body - naked.  Becoming spacefaring would be the bees knees.  Flying through space like a squid or a dolphin...on fungi...


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26825274 - 07/15/20 01:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

That would be quite a leap in evolution: quite the mutation. From instantly dying to complete resistance :sunny:
Like imagine some future humans being in space and somebody for some reason loses their protection and is not in the spacecraft at the time and then they are just like "hey, I'm actually good here :thumbup:"


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26825528 - 07/15/20 04:21 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Lmao. Yes!  That would be quite the turning point.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: Faustian]
    #26825555 - 07/15/20 04:37 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Hmm, for me I can tell when the trip's first kicking in because the CEVs start, but they're usually just these evolving colorful patterns, kind of kaleidoscopic.  I know it's really starting for good when OEVs show up, and that'll be fine color patterns on rocks I have in the bathroom, the paint on the wall transforming into Mayan hieroglyphics or other sorts of all-consuming patterning, my face in the mirror shifting into strange dimensions.  This is followed (if outside in the sun) by streaks of yellow where there is usually only blue sky, or if inside in the dark by intense fireworks of color and any manner of intricate patterning and imagery, usually overlaid on existing things.  But that's past the come up for sure. :laugh2:

On an accidental OD re-up of PE one time I spent a good hour (real time) unable to move and "treated" to the most intense come up style visuals I can recall.  Kind of an interesting place to go, usually if it gets that intense blackouts or dim-outs start to occur and I lose the thread. :shrug:


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26825563 - 07/15/20 04:41 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Coming up on mushrooms I don't tend to get a lot of CEVs, and most of what I do get in the way of CEVs on mushrooms just tends to be geometric, not anything well defined. On high doses at the peak I'll sometimes get flashes of colored geometric shapes, and rotating points of light in complex patterns, things like that.

LSD on the other hand is very different. I get those lysergamide like complex 2d line patterns, repeating series of lines, ever changing and ever moving curving patterns almost like something you'd see on ornate furniture or in curtains or something. And then of course at higher doses, it can turn into complex 3d scenes but it's never quite like what you describe. More like the work of Alex Grey.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26825749 - 07/15/20 06:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I remember my first trip, the first CEV was swirling colors, like a dance of silk scarves.  Seemed to go on forever and then I opened my eyes and less than 5 minutes had passed.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26825886 - 07/15/20 07:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quintuple 5's on ur post number, hnnnngggg. :hmm:

But yea if we're talking OEV's things are more subtle, fractals overlay textures and differ based on texture.

But,

I remember after taking 3 tabs, I saw this stone, and it morphed into a beautiful woman,
I still remember , I got horny for a stone, on acid .
It was awe inspiring and erotic, my surrounding became enchanted with enhancements, a new landscape replete with exotic alien plants, greek architecture within which appeared to host the akashic records. I could go on but these intimate things are best cherished in private memory. :smile:


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: Faustian]
    #26826379 - 07/16/20 06:27 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

If anyone has tried Liberty Caps, I’m sure you’d agree tht the open eye visuals are different level; almost DMT on the outside!

But with cubensis,  I definitely feel the closed eye visuals are just insane, and really “racy” as in fast.

What is happening? Are we sinking down into our subconscious, or being drawn into the psychedlic realm? It definitely feels like the mushrooms are taking you somewhere...

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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26826666 - 07/16/20 10:15 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

In my handful of experiences, I've yet to really have OEV, but lots of CEVs. All of these were around 1.5 g dose. I like drawing out my CEVs:





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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: reeelax]
    #26826756 - 07/16/20 11:00 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Ah, cool. :thumbup: Inspired me to draw some of the rudimentary forms I’ve seen as well.  I’ll bet most of us have.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26826826 - 07/16/20 11:35 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I “know” once the CEVs start to swirl even more rapidly. As someone more eloquent once described, it’s like going into an “organic tunnel”. I feel like I’m on the precipice. On the edge of a circular cliff. But it’s a 3D cliff; I could be led on my back, behind my closed eyelids, looking upwards, but still teetering over the edge.

That’s when I know the mushrooms are good. I’ll get up, change my music up, and dive over the precipice :feelingfunky:

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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26826895 - 07/16/20 12:17 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know if it matters but the only times that I had extraordinary (i'd call them) visions was with my eyes closed but it was like they were open. Most of the times i see a explosion of colours or mayan/aztec hieroglyphs swirling and complex patterns/fractals. For myself i could actually differentiate between the two. If it's the hieroglyphs I'm seeing i know that I'm in for a ride. If it's the color/cartoony explosions, it will be weak or bad.

Hope this counts for something :smile: Cheers

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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26827763 - 07/16/20 08:22 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I find that my come-up CEVs are highly influenced by whatever things I have looked at, thought about, and focused on in the previous 12-48 hours.
I had a day where I was working on mushroom cultivation all day and I would see rhizomorphic mycelium and shrooms. I had a day where I was out in my garden weeding a lot and I saw centipedes, worms, and spiders. A day spent outdoors and I saw flowers, leaves, and birds. A day where I watched a lot of porn I saw sensual imagery :wink:

This is on high doses, low doses I generally get faint patterns of dark blues, purples, and brown

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Has anyone ever done the full 5g in total darkness? Honestly, you didn’t open your eyes for the full duration of the trip?



I've done a lot more than that and worn a sleep mask for the entire time. Seeing complete darkness whether your eyes are open or closed definitely takes it to another level. I once had my vision turn from black to dark brown to light brown to bright white and then had an out of body experience floating through the white light- that was the strongest thing I have ever experienced visually, spiritually, and physically.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: ItAintGotNoGasInIt]
    #26827826 - 07/16/20 09:01 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Good point.

The 2-3 days leading up to the trip are a big factor, especially the day before.  Not that older stuff or immediate experience won’t impact the experience - it will.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: ItAintGotNoGasInIt]
    #26828036 - 07/17/20 12:22 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yes absolutely agree; you can influence your “set” quite readily leading up to a trip; I once spent a few days reading Graham Hancock, fingerprints of the gods. The trip was filled with Egyptian architecture nd hieroglyphics.

Respect for the silent darkness; I have noticed the cosmic orchestra kicking in a few moments after the music is switched off. I must try the eyeshade. I used an eyeshade a few years ago when I was coming off SSRIs; though once the SSRIs were comepetely gone, after 5 months, the trips got much stronger and I resorted to opening my eyes!

I need to man up to try this fully.

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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26828101 - 07/17/20 02:03 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

How I wish I could have stayed in that forest alone and see how deep the trip goes with closed eyes. The calmness of the natural environment is completely different than being indoors, to me. I need to do that again. The difficulty is finding a good place nearby without mosquitoes or bloodsucking flies...


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