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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26825017 - 07/15/20 11:50 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

When did you settle on that dose? That's like 9g regulars?


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26825023 - 07/15/20 11:52 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I've eaten 46g wet before and that was such a gentle trip. Not super intense but very gentle non the less. The dry experiences do seem to put me through the ringer but I also dose higher. So I'm not sure.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26825032 - 07/15/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

In 2016.  Clone Apes 🦍 , they feel at least twice as strong as my Mazatapec and Amazonians.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26825037 - 07/15/20 11:56 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

And I also meant to ask that how much experience did you get with lower doses before going that high?


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26825056 - 07/15/20 12:05 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

If you ever read the Tibetan book of the dead it mentions that the wanderer must not become overwhelmed or distracted by the lights and visions.
I personally try to dive into the spiral as hard as possible.
It seems there are others on the other side, waiting.
I only ever fully crossed over once. Then I returned.

Got things to do!


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26825063 - 07/15/20 12:09 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

My trip at the weekend from frozen fresh tea PES Amazonian.

What are your thoughts on Amazonian? I think it could be quite the sinister style trip.,quite dark and foreboding?

I only thought about this afterwards, but wondered why I’d got so many snakes. The large one coming in from the side looked just like an anaconda from an ayahuasca video I was watching last night? Coincidence that I had “Amazonian” on my mind, and the creatures I saw were Amazonian?

And I can fully reconcile with your picture, The Blind Ass :cheers:

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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26825067 - 07/15/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Started at 1.5g dry of dealer shrooms (idk what variety it was).  Stuck with that for 3-4 trips.  Then onto 3g for another 2 trips, then 3.5gs is where I sat for a while - 3-4 trips at that dose.  Then 4g once, then 4.5g once, and 5g 3 times and 6.5gs twice.  All with Amazonians.
I love Amazonians!  They were the first thing I grew and the stems were beastly thick.  I always want to have a few jars going of those puppies 🐶.  Love em.

Then I started experimenting with MS APE and my first trip with those was 4.4grams and it was truly phenomenal.  Got to learning and a friend helped me clone some fruits and have been sticking with 4.5g since 2016. I trip that specific dose & clone  2-4 times a year, that’s what works for me & what I work with..  .

To me, trips & dreaming & normal life experience are all synonymous.  3 angles/points of view on the same thing, but each with their own unique vantage point and pros & cons.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26825122 - 07/15/20 12:33 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I have amazonians waiting and it was first time with them. Mine were super thick, I was surprised as tohow aggressive they were. I had 5 flushes from them. Haven't tried them yet but I did eat a tiny mushroom I accidentally knocked off and it gave a very weird sensation. I wasn't expecting that from such a tiny dose. Dried it must have weight around 0.1g.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26825134 - 07/15/20 12:37 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I have only had Ecuador that I grew myself this year. I had 2 dealer shroom trips as a highscooler though. Seems to be a good variety. I have noticed two different phenotypes: short and dense, and long and big and less dense. Maybe it's just to do with the substrate and amount of spawn.

I agree they are all different view points and experiences of the same whole. Like different parts and scopes of mind and soul. Dreams are the most chaotic and narrow experience and mushroom trips are like a weird hybrid of being awake and dreaming whilst also being high or under the influence clearly.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26825201 - 07/15/20 01:01 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Amazonians gave me my first crystal clear vision trip, one where the visuals were not of reality warping and all that, but as if more reality had been revealed as always there & juxtaposed onto what was already existing.  Everything in the room stayed the same except for the persistent vision.  Didn’t matter if I had eyes open or closed or washed my face, the walls were lined with this 1 part superstructure in what seemed a language of sorts or symbols and 1 part living spirit that could be interacted with and which responded to sound & thought / volition.

I could walk perfectly fine and talk well and see perfectly.  I’d walk right up to the wall and my my face near to the hallucination and try to shake my head or blink a lot and make it go away - but it/they all remained & persisted for about 1 hr.  A  hallucination, composed of what seemed akin to what I’d imagine celestial light to be.  The room was completely dark - save for some moon beams streaking in through the window, which on their own were stainless radiance.  It was juxtaposed onto almost every surface and was 3-D.  The “living spirit” part was beyond cool, it completely stymied my intellect so much so that I had to abandon it.  I just couldn’t believe it, it was impossible..yet I was perceiving it.

It was like an entirely new world, an actual world that exists in our own world - or rather, more of the world etched on to ours but on another frequency or in another dimension, but intersecting with our own.
  I’m not saying I believe that, just that experientially, that’s how it played out.

That’s where I want to be, not having the bed warping and the walls morphing and seeing faces in the rug - though that’s fine too.  to go beyond beyond to the other side.

And that’s part of why I’ll always love Amazonians. 


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26825234 - 07/15/20 01:17 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Interesting hallucination for sure. On a 20g fresh dose I can see the ceiling, which is of concrete and has this jagged surface, immediately form a web of these specks, like it's impossible to see it without the pattern trying to form in front of my eyes. But it never becomes something symmetrical. Then it is like a frame of that is cut out and it starts to drift, so there are two frames of this ceiling pattern in my vision. IT is very intriguing to look at. I guess our minds just like symmetry and patterns so much.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26825253 - 07/15/20 01:24 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Interesting.....


It made me ponder if sometime in the future (millions or billions or whatever years) if some species will evolve to become adapted for space.  As in, be able to survive in space with just their body - naked.  Becoming spacefaring would be the bees knees.  Flying through space like a squid or a dolphin...on fungi...


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26825274 - 07/15/20 01:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

That would be quite a leap in evolution: quite the mutation. From instantly dying to complete resistance :sunny:
Like imagine some future humans being in space and somebody for some reason loses their protection and is not in the spacecraft at the time and then they are just like "hey, I'm actually good here :thumbup:"


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: InnerWisdom]
    #26825528 - 07/15/20 04:21 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Lmao. Yes!  That would be quite the turning point.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: Faustian]
    #26825555 - 07/15/20 04:37 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Hmm, for me I can tell when the trip's first kicking in because the CEVs start, but they're usually just these evolving colorful patterns, kind of kaleidoscopic.  I know it's really starting for good when OEVs show up, and that'll be fine color patterns on rocks I have in the bathroom, the paint on the wall transforming into Mayan hieroglyphics or other sorts of all-consuming patterning, my face in the mirror shifting into strange dimensions.  This is followed (if outside in the sun) by streaks of yellow where there is usually only blue sky, or if inside in the dark by intense fireworks of color and any manner of intricate patterning and imagery, usually overlaid on existing things.  But that's past the come up for sure. :laugh2:

On an accidental OD re-up of PE one time I spent a good hour (real time) unable to move and "treated" to the most intense come up style visuals I can recall.  Kind of an interesting place to go, usually if it gets that intense blackouts or dim-outs start to occur and I lose the thread. :shrug:


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26825563 - 07/15/20 04:41 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Coming up on mushrooms I don't tend to get a lot of CEVs, and most of what I do get in the way of CEVs on mushrooms just tends to be geometric, not anything well defined. On high doses at the peak I'll sometimes get flashes of colored geometric shapes, and rotating points of light in complex patterns, things like that.

LSD on the other hand is very different. I get those lysergamide like complex 2d line patterns, repeating series of lines, ever changing and ever moving curving patterns almost like something you'd see on ornate furniture or in curtains or something. And then of course at higher doses, it can turn into complex 3d scenes but it's never quite like what you describe. More like the work of Alex Grey.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26825749 - 07/15/20 06:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I remember my first trip, the first CEV was swirling colors, like a dance of silk scarves.  Seemed to go on forever and then I opened my eyes and less than 5 minutes had passed.


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26825886 - 07/15/20 07:54 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quintuple 5's on ur post number, hnnnngggg. :hmm:

But yea if we're talking OEV's things are more subtle, fractals overlay textures and differ based on texture.

But,

I remember after taking 3 tabs, I saw this stone, and it morphed into a beautiful woman,
I still remember , I got horny for a stone, on acid .
It was awe inspiring and erotic, my surrounding became enchanted with enhancements, a new landscape replete with exotic alien plants, greek architecture within which appeared to host the akashic records. I could go on but these intimate things are best cherished in private memory. :smile:


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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: Faustian]
    #26826379 - 07/16/20 06:27 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

If anyone has tried Liberty Caps, I’m sure you’d agree tht the open eye visuals are different level; almost DMT on the outside!

But with cubensis,  I definitely feel the closed eye visuals are just insane, and really “racy” as in fast.

What is happening? Are we sinking down into our subconscious, or being drawn into the psychedlic realm? It definitely feels like the mushrooms are taking you somewhere...

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Re: Come up Closed Eye Visuals [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26826666 - 07/16/20 10:15 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

In my handful of experiences, I've yet to really have OEV, but lots of CEVs. All of these were around 1.5 g dose. I like drawing out my CEVs:





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