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In defense of 50ug. 3
#26821609 - 07/13/20 06:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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God damn that is a fun dose. Pure pleasure, euphoria, fun, excitement, but also a little bit of that old lysergamide insight and beauty. 50ug is just a lot of fun. It has just a little bit of everything, but it has pure fun and happiness and joy in spades.
I know there's a lot to be said for dosing high, and I'd be the first to recommend 200ug, but damn 50ug is a nice dose. Nothing but fun, pure recreation, except it also has that wonderful lysergamide headspace. I wish I could feel like I do on 50ug 24/7. It's also so controllable at that dose. I've almost never had a better time, it was just such pure positivity and concentrated joy and happiness. Sure, it lacked some of the real hardcore visuals and excitement, but in exchange for that god damn it was an insanely good time. One of the best trips I've ever had.
Asante is always saying that we should learn to enjoy and appreciate lower doses, and I've generally been skeptical of that, but actually I think there's something to it now. I can easily see spending the day on the beach on 50ug, and just having an amazingly enjoyable time. Especially if you redosed at hour 6.
I had such a great time that I think for the rest of the year I'm going to do 50ug when I trip. And you know, the other nice thing about 50ug is that you use so little LSD to get there.
Anyway, what do you think about 50ug?
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Re: In defense of 50ug. [Re: nooneman]
#26821622 - 07/13/20 06:36 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Love it! Mix it with some changa if you want a little more of that net of Indra type unity while still being grounded. Personally I started off way too intense, eating 3-5 tabs at a time, half an ounce of dried shrooms. Now I hardly need much to take me places so microdosing is ideal for me, especially when u mix several things in small amounts too! Its fuuuun
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Re: In defense of 50ug. [Re: Faustian]
#26822242 - 07/14/20 01:12 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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If I'm going to take 50ug I may as well take 100 or 150. I like 25ug for a mild trip, and up to 5ug for a micro dose
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I used to take ~50ug (half a blotter) at work every once in a week a few years ago. I found this dose to be perfect to get mild trippy effects but still keep functional enough to mantain the tasks. I worked at Subway (sandwiches) at that time, and I was said to be the most friendly waiter of all. 
Always had a good time. Half a hit is a really good dose.
But sometimes half blotters were stronger than 50ug. Maybe unevenly laid? When the effects were stronger (closer to 100ug) it was a bit challenging.
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Re: In defense of 50ug. [Re: Pandemoon] 2
#26822571 - 07/14/20 09:13 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't understand why people have to defend their dose choice when it comes to LSD or mushrooms.
Is our culture so toxic that those who aren't taking massive doses while balancing on their head on top of a skyscraper "ToTaL PuSsYs"?
I've never taken LSD but I love low-mid doses and much as I love higher ones in regards to mushrooms. They provide some incredibly therapeutic benefits that are unmatched by anything.
I think people should explore a wide range of doses to get the full experience.
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love it!
been sticking to 25, but today in your honor let it be 50!
2hrs later I can see and walk but alien by all measures.
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nooneman


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Hope you have a great time man!
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Re: In defense of 50ug. [Re: nooneman]
#26823097 - 07/14/20 01:32 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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swampped by it, but the peak is over, sort of, not too much is solid. or too many things are solid ???
1/4 is way easier but this was good.
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Clearly there is a lot of fear about taking higher doses. I would not go as far as pussies but it's definitely a fear thing. I won't go past 8g because of fear. That's my personal limit.
Now, the breathe taking experience of the high doses should be experienced by the veterans. I think it's more like looking to the shallower end of the pool while being in the deep end and just wanting others to come and experience. There is something to the idea that you must saturate your brain with psilocybin sufficiently so that there is no escaping the experience. My two cents. (The cost of the penny: 1.79 cents)
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LosTresOjos said: Clearly there is a lot of fear about taking higher doses. I would not go as far as pussies but it's definitely a fear thing. I won't go past 8g because of fear. That's my personal limit.
Now, the breathe taking experience of the high doses should be experienced by the veterans. I think it's more like looking to the shallower end of the pool while being in the deep end and just wanting others to come and experience. There is something to the idea that you must saturate your brain with psilocybin sufficiently so that there is no escaping the experience. My two cents. (The cost of the penny: 1.79 cents)
I definitely agree with you.
Fear and ego is definitely a driving factor when it comes to my own experiences. And I also agree that the lower doses do not offer the sheer depth and wonder of larger doses.
I just think people need to stop being apologetic for dosing their way. After all, the "number" associated with the dose is not particularly relevant. If I took 2 grams of mushrooms, but they were super potent APEs, that experience will be deeper than if I took 4g of weak non-PE cubes. Furthermore, plenty of people have had experience on extremely high doses where they just black out (and recall nothing from their experience). I'd say a low dose is preferable to that scenario.
At the end of the day, I completely agree with you. And as time passes, the individual probably has a natural inclination to dose higher anyway. I'm nowhere near your 8g dose, and probably won't be there for many many years, but I have noticed as I experiment more, I feel more dissatisfied with lower doses and I yearn for higher doses (but, as you've pointed out, fear keeps me from them).
Side note (I probably should start a new thread about this): Also, when it comes to fear, why is there such a negative view surrounding it. Obviously there are irrational fears. And fear has stopped many people from achieving what they could or experiencing life to the "fullest". But if we were "fearless" creatures, our species wouldn't have survived. We would be getting slaughtered left and right by the world because fear wouldn't keep us from taking unnecessary risks. I feel that fear is also a directional emotion. If we feel fear, then we must adjust the direction we are taking. We cannot eliminate fear, nor should we, but we can shrink it to a relevant degree depending on the experience arousing said fear. Lots of fear when confronting a dangerous and wild animal? Perfectly normal. Lots of fear when going on a date? Not normal. So in the former, we don't need to minimize our fear, simply learn to act even in the face of it. In the latter we need to conquer our fear so it's at a realistic level.
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Re: In defense of 50ug. [Re: nooneman] 2
#26823170 - 07/14/20 02:08 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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nooneman said: God damn that is a fun dose. Pure pleasure, euphoria, fun, excitement, but also a little bit of that old lysergamide insight and beauty. 50ug is just a lot of fun. It has just a little bit of everything, but it has pure fun and happiness and joy in spades.
I know there's a lot to be said for dosing high, and I'd be the first to recommend 200ug, but damn 50ug is a nice dose. Nothing but fun, pure recreation, except it also has that wonderful lysergamide headspace. I wish I could feel like I do on 50ug 24/7. It's also so controllable at that dose. I've almost never had a better time, it was just such pure positivity and concentrated joy and happiness. Sure, it lacked some of the real hardcore visuals and excitement, but in exchange for that god damn it was an insanely good time. One of the best trips I've ever had.
Asante is always saying that we should learn to enjoy and appreciate lower doses, and I've generally been skeptical of that, but actually I think there's something to it now. I can easily see spending the day on the beach on 50ug, and just having an amazingly enjoyable time. Especially if you redosed at hour 6.
I had such a great time that I think for the rest of the year I'm going to do 50ug when I trip. And you know, the other nice thing about 50ug is that you use so little LSD to get there.
Anyway, what do you think about 50ug?
I'm very happy its captured your heart!
Low dose - high adventure!
Its a shame that low doses as per the title need defending.
Its cooler to have lots of fun on 50mcg than on 200mcg, not just because the fun is more driven by you than the drug, but you get to do it 4x off the same amount 
Never have I laughed so thorougly as on low doses of mushrooms and LSD. It can be utterly hysterical and people are wittier in their comebacks and antics!
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Re: In defense of 50ug. [Re: Pandemoon]
#26823177 - 07/14/20 02:12 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Pandemoon said: But sometimes half blotters were stronger than 50ug. Maybe unevenly laid? When the effects were stronger (closer to 100ug) it was a bit challenging. -
Hahaha that's hilarious I bet that would be difficult. I work at a weed farm so I'd probably be fine but one of my old jobs itd be a disaster.
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Re: In defense of 50ug. [Re: LSD-25] 3
#26823187 - 07/14/20 02:16 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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ok so maybe sometimes they are stronger, hahahaha probbably thiss time. hahaha - still peak'n 4 hours later, but much easier to make out what is happening.
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While on 25 mics, I could enjoy and pretend to be normal on only half the people would know I am jacked; on 50 mics I was not able to do much more than walk around and look and be, or watch tv or with glassy eyes.
eventually my wife came home from the un-locked lock down face-masked hairdresser with some interesting streaks of color. I watched her eat a salad and struggled to down some fish sticks and water.
I was still staring out the windows at sparkling lights of the city 12 hours later - some cannabis made me sleepy at the 12 hour mark.
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Asante said: Its a shame that low doses as per the title need defending.
I totally agree! It's sad, I feel like there should be more appreciation for any and every dose of LSD. Every dose is a good dose.
But especially the lower doses need more appreciation and respect. A lot of people unfortunately don't think very highly of them, but they can be truly spectacular and amazing. It's still LSD after all. There is a lot to be said for low doses. 50ug was truly amazing, I had such a great time that I'm having a hard time not just going on and on about it here, so I'll just leave it at that. I wish I could feel that way all the time. I'm really looking forward to repeating the experience next time. And after what redgreenvines said, I look forward to trying 25ug again in near the future.
For at least the rest of the year, this is the year of low doses for me.
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redgreenvines said: While on 25 mics, I could enjoy and pretend to be normal on only half the people would know I am jacked; on 50 mics I was not able to do much more than walk around and look and be, or watch tv or with glassy eyes.
I'm sorry that you weren't able to do more on 50ug. One of these days I'll have to go down to 25ug again and see how it is, the way you describe it sounds pretty great. I did try at 25ug before, but at the time I was hoping for more of a microdose and was disappointed that it had so much of an effect. But coming from 50ug, 25ug could be totally awesome. Hope you still had a good time though.
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#26826464 - 07/16/20 07:53 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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spectacular! thanks for halving me.
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Re: In defense of 50ug. [Re: nooneman]
#26827913 - 07/16/20 10:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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nooneman said: God damn that is a fun dose. Pure pleasure, euphoria, fun, excitement, but also a little bit of that old lysergamide insight and beauty. 50ug is just a lot of fun. It has just a little bit of everything, but it has pure fun and happiness and joy in spades.
I know there's a lot to be said for dosing high, and I'd be the first to recommend 200ug, but damn 50ug is a nice dose. Nothing but fun, pure recreation, except it also has that wonderful lysergamide headspace. I wish I could feel like I do on 50ug 24/7. It's also so controllable at that dose. I've almost never had a better time, it was just such pure positivity and concentrated joy and happiness. Sure, it lacked some of the real hardcore visuals and excitement, but in exchange for that god damn it was an insanely good time. One of the best trips I've ever had.
Asante is always saying that we should learn to enjoy and appreciate lower doses, and I've generally been skeptical of that, but actually I think there's something to it now. I can easily see spending the day on the beach on 50ug, and just having an amazingly enjoyable time. Especially if you redosed at hour 6.
I had such a great time that I think for the rest of the year I'm going to do 50ug when I trip. And you know, the other nice thing about 50ug is that you use so little LSD to get there.
Anyway, what do you think about 50ug?
I agree -- light but yet still noticeable doses are fantastic. They're such an elevator for whatever it is you're doing that day/night. These days I'm much more into the recreational low dose than I am getting blasted into deep space.
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Re: In defense of 50ug. [Re: Niffla]
#26830024 - 07/18/20 12:36 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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A LOT of my doses over the last few years have been lower doses like talked about in this thread, and they have been GREAT. I had a couple years off of psychedelics, and was honestly a little shy/anxious about getting back into them, so started low and went slow.
Very Psycholytic in nature. I always have fun with those experiences, but I have been missing the more moderate-ish doses lately(3.5g mushrooms).
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In physics, the Planck mass, denoted by mP, is the unit of mass in the system of natural units known as Planck units. It is approximately 21 micrograms
My favorite dose of LSD is a cosmological unit 
It is the minimal mass that can form a black hole
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#26830767 - 07/18/20 01:21 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I walk a planck or two usually
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