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Are those standard height shoeboxes? Either they're tall or your sub looks thin. What's your ratio in there 1:1?
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mushboy
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Ya that's why I assumed shroomer didnt read making shoeboxes cause the question would of been answered
They fruit and grow just fine inside the shoebox. Nothing else needed.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
#26822794 - 07/14/20 11:21 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Those are the 6qt sterilite. The gold standard for SB. I have some of those white lid ones and a few off brand randoms and none work nearly as well as the latching sterilite for some reason.
The mix is 1:1.5. Qt of spawn to qt of coir/verm then top layered with a half qt.
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Small shrooms.
Not all shrooms are that short, yo.
        All different tubs
Haven't run enough shoeboxes to know whether or not fruit size is at all dependant on sub size and water availability, but I regularly have flushes that nearly hit the lid in my standard sized monos. If my clones perform anywhere near the same in a shoebox then no, there definitely isnt enough room with the lid on.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#26822850 - 07/14/20 11:46 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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This was my concern as well. Maybe my PESA would do okay fruiting in a shoebox, but my TC fruits can get pretty big come the second flush. I'm looking at these like there's no way.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow] 1
#26822853 - 07/14/20 11:48 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ime shoeboxes tend to produce extremely dense but shorter fruits. Might have to do with water to pull from.
Even if they are shorter you can easily get well over an ounce of shrooms from a 1qt shoebox.
An oz of shorter shrooms vs an oz of a few large ones? I'll take shorties of equal weight all day.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy] 1
#26822859 - 07/14/20 11:52 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'll shoot for 2 oz/qt of dense, tall, and fat shrooms; thank you very much
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow] 1
#26822861 - 07/14/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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But forealdoh, if you know your clone produces bigguns, I'd go with the mono or putting your shoeboxes in a mono
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#26822863 - 07/14/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Good luck getting that from a shoebox
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#26822869 - 07/14/20 11:57 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah I definitely get the same dry weight per quart in shoeboxes and underbeds but shoebox fruits are almost always smaller and more numerous. Using a 3 inch sub a rarely end up needing to dub for room.
Recently I ran the same toc culture in shoeboxes and an underbed and this was by far the biggest shoebox fruit

Vs these from the underbed tub
 
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy] 1
#26822877 - 07/14/20 12:01 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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mushboy said: Good luck getting that from a shoebox
Monos all the way, yo
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#26822884 - 07/14/20 12:06 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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You just unlatch the lid. If you have a canopy they keep each other humid enough for them to grow open air for the last day or so. You can grow however you like lol I just don’t wanna waste another tub or waste time with the plastic bag over the top.
The shoe boxes do put out smaller mush on average I think but still the same weight per qt. I’m getting about 2oz from each qt in nice compact mushrooms over 2 flushes.
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The size/potency thing is so weird. Tons of people say huge mushrooms are just as potent but I’ve also seen a bunch of legit growers say they’d rather have a bunch of smaller ones than one big one.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#26822894 - 07/14/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Monos kickass but in a conversation about shoeboxes talking about a monos performance is kinda ... whatevs
Like we are eating hamburgers but nate needs to let us know how awesome his steak is we kno!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#26822928 - 07/14/20 12:21 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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mushboy said: Monos kickass but in a conversation about shoeboxes talking about a monos performance is kinda ... whatevs
Like we are eating hamburgers but nate needs to let us know how awesome his steak is we kno!
Dang, you guys crack me up! Mushboy yer shoebox thread has some pretty hillarous moments. Kinda scary too.
It took me awhile to realize the difference between me as a little 'ol 4 shoebox grower and the conversations based around serious bulk growing.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte] 1
#26822997 - 07/14/20 12:52 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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mushboy said: Monos kickass but in a conversation about shoeboxes talking about a monos performance is kinda ... whatevs
Like we are eating hamburgers but nate needs to let us know how awesome his steak is we kno!
Uh except shroomerintherye was asking about the best way to do shoeboxes, including putting them in monos which pasty recommended and I agreed with.
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Pastywhyte said: I’d go with a monotub and in fact I would recommend this style of monotub. No poly for the cats to play with here.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26140339/fpart/1/vc/1/nt/13
Not my fault you have issues with following a thread and reading comp.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#26823008 - 07/14/20 12:55 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Putting shoe boxes into a mono is gay, it will make you like guys at a rate 3x that of regular cube work.
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Tell that to munchauzen and pasty
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
#26823038 - 07/14/20 01:05 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I’ve seen lots of people fruit shoeboxes in monos, it’s not my jam but it works well enough. No different than fruiting bottles in a mono IMO. I don’t like shoeboxes generally cause I’m not a fan of dub tubs. They have their points of course but I prefer a monotub.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26823067 - 07/14/20 01:18 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I had about 60 qts of colonized spawn and about 7 "questionable" jars. A little bacterial but spawnable. People really like their shoeboxes, so I wanted to try them out now that I had spawn I didn't care so much about. Honestly didn't think I'd get this far, but already some of the shrooms are scraping the lid. I thought they would trich out by now.
The rest of the quarts went into about 25 mini monos and a few left for G2G transfers. I've got a few more clean jars to spawn but I ran out of tubs.
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