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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: Asante] 2
#26822529 - 07/14/20 08:37 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Asante said: The time for denial is through.
What I've been noticing is that in most people who deny the severity of it, the more evidence they get to the contrary, the deeper entrenched they get in their denial... even when loved ones start getting tubes shoved down their throats.
My cousin had family members calling her in the hospital, yelling at her to "cut the fake flu shit", while she towed the line of needing a vent.
Meanwhile some school systems in the US are choosing to fully open next month regardless
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The Orange County Board of Education voted 4-1 Monday evening to allow schools to reopen next month with in-person instruction.
Students and teachers can choose to attend classes without masks and no social distancing required
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/07/13/oc-school-board-classes-fall/
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: feevers] 2
#26822536 - 07/14/20 08:45 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Not to put feathers up Morrowasted's butt (though he would deserve it) but if someone in denial is quoted the harrowing reality Morrowasted is facing as a medical professional right now, in the USA, and counters it with saying it cannot be anything but complete bullshit - that poster has a vested interest in denial and no amount of testimonial and reasoning to the contrary will change his mind.
Its not a reasonable stance. One may argue they think the impact upon the world will be more optimistic than forecast, but straight up referring to it as utter bullshit, that is an unwillingness to discuss civilly and rationally - obstructive to the thread.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: feevers]
#26822538 - 07/14/20 08:49 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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feevers said:
Meanwhile some school systems in the US are choosing to fully open next month regardless
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The Orange County Board of Education voted 4-1 Monday evening to allow schools to reopen next month with in-person instruction.
Students and teachers can choose to attend classes without masks and no social distancing required
https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2020/07/13/oc-school-board-classes-fall/
A month is a long time in covidville with the US graph going almost vertical. Reality might force them to reconsider before that time comes.
What many people fail to get is that things have only been fairly limited, mass graves in New York nonwithstanding, BECAUSE we have been taking measures to lower the infectivity rate, and 99% of people still hasn't had that.
We are still sitting in a powder keg with 99% unburnt powder, playing with fire.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: Asante]
#26822544 - 07/14/20 08:54 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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We can't let this thread, which has importance for the community, be kept frpom going anywhere because people jammed stuck in Stages 1 and 2 grind rational discussion of the situation at hand to a halt with demands for explanations not listened to because their incomplete coping strategy. They can find answers to their denial in the hundreds of pages so far written.
Lets find whats really out there and what our best course of action is.
Trains only ride because all passengers, collectively, do not slam the emergency brake.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: Asante] 3
#26822573 - 07/14/20 09:14 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Now have a mental image of asante putting feathers up my butt forever ingrained in my mind  
I have no ill will towards the deniers. They have the worst experiences when they do end up getting covid and especially if they end up dying from it. It is a very rude, if brief, awakening. Followed by a very regret filled asleepening. They not only end up feeling regret about the premature and arguably often preventable loss of their own lives, they end up feeling a lot of guilt about having gone around preaching denialism until getting sick. They invariably ask staff to do everything they can to try to tell their friends they had been wrong. Typically that isnt feasible. But i can tell you guys
It isnt so dissimilar from smokers who eventually get lung cancer or bad COPD. They all suddenly realize they could, in fact, have quit, if only they had been able to acutely experience what they experience after receiving the diagnosis
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: morrowasted]
#26822582 - 07/14/20 09:21 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Have you had any covid patients yet that were trying to self medicate with elderberry/flower products and/or Vclear EPs 7630?
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: ballsalsa] 1
#26822629 - 07/14/20 09:48 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have a somewhat low oxygen saturation, which is just plain NOT GOOD with Covid because low oxygen stauration in Covid is one of the deadly mechanisms.
I decided to stimulate the economy and buy a hospital quality (tolerance ~2%) pulse oximeter, the thing doctors clip on your finger when you see them:

As you see: low heartrate, low saturation.
The low heart rate explains the low saturation (huge body, slow heart) and very likely the coctail of blood pressure meds I get for my prinzmetal angina is the direct culprit of my low heart rate.
I intend to do two things: Take the matter up with a cardiologist, and exercise more to get my heart pumping more vigorously, getting some cardio exercise in.
I'm pretty sure Morrowasted concurs that being out-of-shape obese and having both reduced heart rate and reduced saturation is a bad starting point for contracting the COVID infection.
It measures my saturation, it measures my heartrate, it visualizes with a heart line whether there are any arrhythmias, 50 bucks well spent for someone of my situation who both wants to start cardio and avoid COVID.
COVID has me buying medical equipment now.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: ballsalsa]
#26822757 - 07/14/20 11:05 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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ballsalsa said: Have you had any covid patients yet that were trying to self medicate with elderberry/flower products and/or Vclear EPs 7630?
not specifically elderberry. never even heard of the latter. to be perfectly honest I take some OTC supplements like vitamin C/D/zinc in the hopes that it may help reduce the severity of any viral illness I may end up getting. I used to take a glycyrrhizin (licorice) extract too, but I don't anymore. But I think there is a decent amount of science there and the potential consequences, if any, of doing that are very low IMO
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: morrowasted]
#26822771 - 07/14/20 11:11 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm pretty sure Morrowasted concurs that being out-of-shape obese and having both reduced heart rate and reduced saturation is a bad starting point for contracting the COVID infection.
yeah. my O2 sat often runs 97-98 as well, I assume from a combination of allergies, asthma, and a decade or so of smoking
your heart rate being low isn't necessarily an indicator of suboptimal cardiac output, but in combination with that O2 sat, it's likely. you can boost the cardiac output by doing cardio like you said, but if you're able I would split my exercise time between resistance training and cardio. resistance training is a much better way to boost your basal metabolism over time. i know it's tough to do right now unless you have at home gym equipment
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: morrowasted]
#26822864 - 07/14/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Canada has just extended the border closing for another month and they are beefing up border security
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: koods]
#26822881 - 07/14/20 12:05 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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koods said: Canada has just extended the border closing for another month and they are beefing up border security

The impact of USA's lack of actions against COVID19 will affect not only the USA, but likely Canada too, significantly.
It's concerning to have such a large border shared with the USA...
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: RebeccaBlack]
#26822892 - 07/14/20 12:09 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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This aged well:
Florida has more Covid-19 than most countries in the world https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/13/health/florida-coronavirus-cases-comparisons/index.html
Florida's Miami Is the New Wuhan As Coronavirus Cases Surge, Health Official Says https://www.newsweek.com/miami-coronavirus-new-wuhan-health-official-1517584
It's disgusting how predictable the majority of so much of this has all been throughout the pandemic.
It's just case after case after case after case of "That will never happen here!", and then it proceeds to happen.
Now we'll move into the "Well look at the deaths!" stage, as even with under-reporting the deaths have rapidly risen to over a hundred a day and rising, right in line with the upward trend that was expected. It took a little over 2 weeks for NY to go from the ~100 a day range to ~800 a day, at which time the shut down (which began a week before they even had a 100 death day) caught up and the numbers to began to drop. Florida doesn't have a real shutdown and they're already over a week behind, they are fucked. Hopefully the less dense population, improved knowledge of the disease and at least some mask wearing will slow things down until the douche running the place is forced to act.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: feevers]
#26822948 - 07/14/20 12:28 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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That’s my favorite video of the year
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: RebeccaBlack] 1
#26822951 - 07/14/20 12:29 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Daijo said:
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koods said: Canada has just extended the border closing for another month and they are beefing up border security

The impact of USA's lack of actions against COVID19 will affect not only the USA, but likely Canada too, significantly.
It's concerning to have such a large border shared with the USA...
The Ontario premier said he doesn’t want to see any Americans in his province anytime soon
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You just have to look at south of the border to our neighbours down there, and god bless them, I love the Americans, but I don’t want them up here right now,” Ford said.
“After this pandemic, you’re welcome to come up but it’s been reckless down there — that’s the only way I can describe it. They’ve been reckless and moved forward too quickly.”
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: koods] 2
#26822965 - 07/14/20 12:36 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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its just fucking hilarious that all of these people running things have no clue what theyre doing and all their moves are a political gamble and they refuse to talk to scientists cause it might slow down their economy.
The economy is built on confidence ppl.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: cannabinated] 1
#26823098 - 07/14/20 01:32 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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cannabinated said: its just fucking hilarious that all of these people running things have no clue what theyre doing and all their moves are a political gamble and they refuse to talk to scientists cause it might slow down their economy.
The economy is built on confidence ppl.
This thread has been, and still is, more on the ball about Covid than most policymakers and media.
sad!
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: Asante] 1
#26823375 - 07/14/20 03:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ruth Bader Ginsberg has been sent to John Hopkins with symptoms of covid
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: koods] 1
#26823401 - 07/14/20 04:06 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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AIDS for many straight people got a face when Rock Hudson and Ofra Haza got it.
With every celeb getting COVID, more people wake up to the reality of the disease.
Celebs can screw off, even if Trump gets it, for me the face of COVID is my aunt who died of it 
My Spirit Guide puts emphasis on tying loose ends with my father, 79 and obese who almost croaks when he gets a flu. I think I know why.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: Asante]
#26823428 - 07/14/20 04:15 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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I get the point being made but rock hudson was a notorious homosexual.
How would he be a face for straight people? maybe if you said magic johnson.
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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: koods] 1
#26823489 - 07/14/20 04:47 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hyperbole again.
She didn’t get hospitalized for symptoms of covid. She had a bile duct stent cleaned out. Fever and chills are symptoms of other infections too.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7ny.com/amp/ruth-bader-ginsburg-rbg-hospitalized-gunsburg-infection/6317284/
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