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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26821040 - 07/13/20 12:29 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

havent heard the news mention any corona news cause the media revolves around liberals


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: FSHuntings]
    #26821288 - 07/13/20 02:48 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I worked as a server at many restaurants in my days and never got the flu while working there. Restaurants have to be the most diseased ridden places. Constantly in front of people and touching their plates. I have considered getting it before but I don’t really see too much of a point in my case.



There’s a significant portion of the human population that has innate immunity to flu viruses. The flu has been around long enough for some natural selection to occur. I’ve never had the flu either.

It should also be noted that a majority of flu infections are asymptomatic


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: koods]
    #26821290 - 07/13/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

California looks like it’s headed back into lockdown


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: koods]
    #26821294 - 07/13/20 02:50 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

too lil too late


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: ManianFH]
    #26821296 - 07/13/20 02:52 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I got the flu once and I was literally bedridden for 2 weeks. Could barely get up to piss. Im in pretty good shape and even then lost like 20-30 pounds.




I've had the flu once and was exactly the same. It's the sickest I've ever been. Fever was unbreakable 104-105F. Two solid weeks not leaving bed and barely eating. Lost a bunch of weight and was weak for quite a while after.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: koods]
    #26821347 - 07/13/20 03:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I worked as a server at many restaurants in my days and never got the flu while working there. Restaurants have to be the most diseased ridden places. Constantly in front of people and touching their plates. I have considered getting it before but I don’t really see too much of a point in my case.



There’s a significant portion of the human population that has innate immunity to flu viruses. The flu has been around long enough for some natural selection to occur. I’ve never had the flu either.

It should also be noted that a majority of flu infections are asymptomatic



:musky:

I’m mixed like a mutt so I wonder if I am more likely to be asymptomatic to viruses like corona viruses as well.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: FSHuntings] * 1
    #26821870 - 07/13/20 09:01 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I wouldnt be surprised if some people do have a kind of genetic immunity against coronaviruses.. or maybe an adaptive immune response that develops long lasting s spike antibodies quickly... likewise with rhinoviruses, rotavirusesx adenoviruses, noroviruses etc.

I also wouldnt count on it. Somehow i have managed not to get sick with covid despite having coworkers who, as far as i could tell, were using ppe adequately, and got sick anyway. and i have personally not had a "common cold" or really any other kind of serious contagious RESPIRATORY illness since having gotten the flu at age 11, but i have been miserably sick with what were almost certainly noroviruses multiple times since then. Until i got sick with norovirus i might have assumed i simply "have a strong immune system", but it turns out that whatever kind of immune system i have, my body is susceptible to that kind of virus. And it could still be susceptible to others and i have just been extraordinarily lucky.  there was no way of knowing in advance that i would or wouldnt be susceptible to noroviruses. I just found out. The hard way. By shitting my guts out until it hurt to use toilet paper.

In medicine virology is perhaps the last frontier... there are so many, they change so quickly... it has hard to know as much about viral diseases as other kinds of diseases


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26822197 - 07/14/20 12:15 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I had a plain old cold that somehow progressed into double viral pneumonia. The experience was fucking traumatizing.





jesus. did that involve ICU or tubes or something?


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: ManianFH] * 1
    #26822234 - 07/14/20 01:01 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I had a plain old cold that somehow progressed into double viral pneumonia. The experience was fucking traumatizing.





jesus. did that involve ICU or tubes or something?




I was in Japan. I was in this tiny room with my wife and the doctor when I heard him say “haien” which is the Japanese word for pneumonia. I was moved to something like an ICU I guess. I was hooked up with an IV and a nurse stayed with me and patted my back while I coughed. I wanted to lay down because I was so exhausted but it hurt so bad I kept curling up fetal position. I only stayed there for about six hours and then we went home with the medicine. I was sick for about ten days. I was worried I was dying because even when it felt like I could get air in my lungs it felt like it wasn’t going into my blood stream or whatever and it lasted so long. It was like if someone stronger than you kept dunking you underwater but for days. I’m an atheist but I was still kind of praying. I was saying like if there’s a God I don’t know why I never could feel like you exist but if there is a hell please don’t send me to hell. I wasn’t praying to live but just to be forgiven if I died and turned out I’d been wrong. I think there may be a part of the brain that turns on the believe in god thing when you really feel close to death. Like it’s some kind of evolutionary psychological mechanism that forces you to deny that you’re going to just stop existing.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26822248 - 07/14/20 01:23 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

thats intense. you might be lucky to be alive. Kind of sheds a little perspective too on what some of these people on vents might be feeling, though who knows its maybe even a level beyond that. To breathe and not be able to breathe all at once is fucking horrid


With the God thing - I've been there once with a popped appendix and feeling like I was going to die right then and there, and for sure was praying to God to forgive all my idiot mistakes. Pray to God all the time now. Feel like were pretty good or at least i hope that would suck if at the end of it I came to some pearlies and hes like mother fucker i put you on mute back in 04


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: ManianFH] * 3
    #26822268 - 07/14/20 02:01 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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maybe even a level beyond that




What these people are experiencing is way beyond what I went through. I felt like I was dying. They ARE dying. I didn’t need to be put on a ventilator to live. I wasn’t isolated. Hundreds are dying in the US everyday. For every death there’s several more with PERMANENT pulmonary disorders. People are having strokes. People’s lungs are turning into fucking sponges.

Right now this virus is killing people in America at a faster pace than any war in American history. And if it turns out you can catch this multiple times and each time you’re weaker from the last time... who’s the say what the numbers are going to be like next year. Maybe I’m thinking catastrophic but we fucked up bad letting millions of people get this shit 

130,000 dead this quickly. I mean goddamn.


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You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26822362 - 07/14/20 05:51 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I would like to see where all these people are dying? Wheres all the dead bodies? Covid is so fake...


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #26822367 - 07/14/20 06:04 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah I think we fucked this up, I think it was first year high school biology where I heard that most viral illnesses tend to become less deadly over time.

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Any evolution that does take place in an endemic coronavirus, including one that spikes seasonally, might well be toward less virulence. “It doesn’t want to kill you before you transmit it,” Farzan said. “One would therefore expect a slow attenuation” of virulence if the virus becomes like seasonal flu. Dead people don’t transmit viruses, “and even people sitting in their beds and shivering” because they are seriously ill “don’t transmit that well,” he said.




https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/04/two-scenarios-if-new-coronavirus-isnt-contained/

I'd guess that it won't be as harmful next year,  because some have will have some immunity and that mutations that cause milder symptoms will be more likely to be the ones that infect others. Letting it run rampant without barriers like masks though is likely to make it easier for it to persist in it's present form.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: CagedApe] * 2
    #26822371 - 07/14/20 06:06 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I would like to see where all these people are dying? Wheres all the dead bodies? Covid is so fake...




Indeed.  Same with AIDS, WW2, the Titanic, 9/11 and JFK.  I haven't seen the bodies from any of these events, so clearly they're all fake too.


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: Guy1980]
    #26822378 - 07/14/20 06:14 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I would like to see where all these people are dying? Wheres all the dead bodies? Covid is so fake...




Indeed.  Same with AIDS, WW2, the Titanic, 9/11 and JFK.  I haven't seen the bodies from any of these events, so clearly they're all fake too.



You just keep watching the news fella and keep those blinders on. Baaaaah sheep...


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #26822395 - 07/14/20 06:29 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I would like to see where all these people are dying? Wheres all the dead bodies? Covid is so fake...




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The death count reported does not accurately reflect the real death count in Texas at present. Texas does not report "presumed" covid19s death as a covid19 death like new york did. We are now at the point where stretchers are lining the ER hallways with patients often waiting 8 or 12 hours for a real bed. The morgue is full and bodies are now being put into refrigerated trucks. I can tell you for a fact that those bodies in the truck havent been counted in the stats yet and it may be a week or two before they are. Also unlike some states, simply because someone dies with a covid19 positive test does not necessarily mean cause of death will be listed as covid19. People who die in the field or the ambulance on the way are almost never tested, but from the EMT description it is clear that they had it. I can tell you anedcotally that the number of people dying in the last week of all causes is 3 to 5 times higher than it would typically be, and most of those additional deaths are covid related, but that death rate is not reflected by the official stats. The hispanic population in particular is dying at a much greater rate than average and because they tend not to seek hospitalization despite being very sick, they frequently die in short order after arriving, or if they die at home they are never tested. A test may or may not be performed on the body if they do present dead on arrival or die shortly after arriving, but even when it is, that death will typically not appear in the stats for one to two weeks after it occurs. The stats make it seem like the white population is getting hit equally or more hard than the hispanic population but it simply isnt true, there are just a lot more white people going to get tested or being tested regularly in nursing homes, so when they die the medical examiner can much more quickly list covid19 as cause of death.

In about 2 weeks you will have a somewhat more accurate but still incomplete picture of how many people are currently dying of covid.

On top of that, staff to patient ratios are getting ridiculous (outright illegal in the ICU) and PPE is running out.




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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: Asante]
    #26822498 - 07/14/20 08:11 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Do people realize that this started in China and if there was a problem then China would have to stack bodies mile high. Do you understand how many people would be affected and the level of death rates if this was actually more than complete bullshit. Do people not think critically.... SMFH


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: CagedApe] * 9
    #26822503 - 07/14/20 08:20 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Do people not think critically



some of us- in fact, most of us- do. Youre welcome to join us

If you want to get at the truth without needing to think critically, get a patient transport job in a big city hospital. No experience needed really. Wheeling bodies to the morgue (or the refrigerated truck) is pretty straightforward


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Re: COVID-19 aka. SARS-CoV-2 - Main Thread on the Novel Coronavirus Pandemic [Re: CagedApe] * 3
    #26822504 - 07/14/20 08:20 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Thank you for that riveting analysis.  Unfortunately, misinformation and conspiracy theories don't belong in this thread so I'll have to ask you to kindly take further posts in that vein to the appropriate forum.

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    #26822508 - 07/14/20 08:23 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The time for denial is through.

I gave him a post deny as per the moderation guideline:




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MODERATION NOTICE:

One of the mission statements of the Shroomery is to stop the spread of dangerous misinformation. Initially this pertained to the substances we voluntarily put into our bodies, but COVID-19 is something that may involuntarily end up in the bodies of our members and their loved ones.

The media are a mess of propaganda and the Internet is a jungle which someone not versed in medical lingo and medical principles can easily get lost in.

Because some Shroomerites depend on this thread to help them make sense of the actual situation and what best to do - we will moderate this thread more strictly now and will issue post deny's to the more disruptive members.

Its OK to differ in opinion but we must ERR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION here.

The preferred moderating action will be a Post Deny for repeat offenders.

This very important and initially highly information dense thread is devolving into a dumpster fire, to the detriment of all who have a vested interest in this thread to be a collective voice of reason in making sense of what to do in these times.

Lets drop the offtopic, the conspiracy theories and the assigning of blame and focus on purifying our understanding, each by interacting with those voices in the discussion we have confidence in.

This thread may SHORTEN THE R.I.P THREAD OF 2021.

Let's NOT mess that up.


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He can read the thread, benefi from what is being exchanged here, but no longer disrupt it with his categoric denial that anything at all is amiss.


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