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1 more reason why manure is ESSENTIAL to casings...
    #2682207 - 05/15/04 02:34 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

here u go noobs and to some who didnt know.... i cased both these at same time from the same cake, each got half of a 1/2 pint cake..


Case1 on left was cased with manure, then after the mycelium hit the top, i put another layer of verm over it.

Case2 on the right was straight verm on both layers, with the mycelium in middle layer.
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Case1 colonized in 12 hours!
case2 was only 1/4 the way through, so i gave it a full 24 hours before i birthed it.
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Case1 has MANY MANY shrooms growing, and they are healthiest ones yet :smile:
Case2 well.. theres like 4 lol...

So there u have it, i proved to myself that a little extra $ and like maybe 3 more mins of time, and u get some badass casing with manure! (poo)

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~ TripleB


Edited by TripleB (08/08/08 12:21 PM)


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Re: 1 more reason why manure is ESSENTIAL to casings... [Re: TripleB]
    #2682223 - 05/15/04 02:38 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Looks good :smile:


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Re: 1 more reason why manure is ESSENTIAL to casings... [Re: TripleB]
    #2682226 - 05/15/04 02:39 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

this is day 3, and im hoping to harvest tomorrow at midnight... im gonna eat some fresh, cuz i CANT WAIT lol... good or bad idea? lol ...


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Re: 1 more reason why manure is ESSENTIAL to casings... [Re: TripleB]
    #2682234 - 05/15/04 02:41 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Nothing wrong with eating fresh, but remember you'll have to eat about 10 times what you would dry, this is a good time to figure out what you like to eat your mushies with hehe


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Re: 1 more reason why manure is ESSENTIAL to casings... [Re: TripleB]
    #2682278 - 05/15/04 02:49 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

id have to eat 10 times? u mean the AMOUNT OF SPYLOCIBIN... err however u spell it right?.. cuz a fresh shroom IS 10x a dried shrooms weight? ...


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Re: 1 more reason why manure is ESSENTIAL to casings... [Re: TripleB]
    #2682395 - 05/15/04 03:13 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

in other words you would have to eat 100grams wet to equal 10 grams dry.


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Re: 1 more reason why manure is ESSENTIAL to casings... [Re: TripleB]
    #2682432 - 05/15/04 03:20 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

gotcha :wink:


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Re: 1 more reason why manure is ESSENTIAL to casings... [Re: TripleB]
    #2683332 - 05/15/04 07:59 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

that doesnt prove much at all. Of course if you case a mix with nutrients it will grow better. Compare manure to A REAL casing mixture, like manure vs 50/50+ or coco coir mix or something..


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Re: 1 more reason why manure is ESSENTIAL to casings... [Re: phucknut68]
    #2683350 - 05/15/04 08:07 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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that doesnt prove much at all. Of course if you case a mix with nutrients it will grow better. Compare manure to A REAL casing mixture, like manure vs 50/50+ or coco coir mix or something..




Casing layers do NOT provide nutrients! In fact, the presence of unabsorbed/undigested nutrients will prevent pinning. Casing serves primarily to provide moisture and a higher fruiting surface area.

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Re: 1 more reason why manure is ESSENTIAL to casings... [Re: Aeolus1369]
    #2683439 - 05/15/04 08:31 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

What Aeolus said.  Casings are non-nutritous and provide moisture only.  Adding manure would be considered simply increasing the amount of substrate... nothing wrong with that... but it's not casing :wink:


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Re: 1 more reason why manure is ESSENTIAL to casings... [Re: TripleB]
    #2683654 - 05/15/04 09:31 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

to clear things up here, what you did on the bottom (cake to manure) was spawning. the verm layer you placed on top of that was casing.

not to spilt hairs but it is best if all are on the same page.


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Re: 1 more reason why manure is ESSENTIAL to casings... [Re: Strange_Design]
    #2689796 - 05/17/04 03:01 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks for the info on clearing up what casing was. I know that i had a few questions, and one of them was completely answered here.

Using manure and then a casing layer over that looks pretty good tho.


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Re: 1 more reason why manure is ESSENTIAL to casings... [Re: t3knology]
    #2690375 - 05/17/04 09:11 AM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Or, you could just mix the manure in with your straw at the beginning of the spawn run. Manure is dense and colonizes slower than straw (at least in my experience), so mixing it with straw makes it easier for the mycelium to colonize.


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Re: 1 more reason why manure is ESSENTIAL to casings... [Re: TripleB]
    #2690813 - 05/17/04 12:55 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

i wasnt worried cuz it pinned within 2 1/2 days of me putting it in the chamber, thats fast enough for me :P and why take an extra 2 hours out of yur time to pasturize straw... and waste tubs which could be used for fruiting chambers lol.. oh well, im just lazy when it comes to straw :P


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