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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26818627 - 07/12/20 02:11 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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You can add salt, as it helps to push the alkaloids into the non-polar solvent. But it's not needed.

Vinegar is not needed at all. It would be counter-productive, as it fights and reacts with the lye. Both the acid from the vinegar and the base from the lye would neutralize each other.

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Acid can be helpful to make the DMT water soluble and pull it out of the bark and into solution.  Then the lye will drop it out into freebase.  Salt doesn't hurt and can only help.  I'd use noniodized salt.


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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Shroomboofer]
    #26818923 - 07/12/20 08:43 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

What like vinegar bath to start?

Guess i read a lot of people saying its not needed.

Got pull one out of the freezer and drying. Got the naptha in for a new pull. Added some salt.

The shit in my jar is super fucking thick

Maybe too much bark for the water and size of the jar?


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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Enkidu]
    #26818934 - 07/12/20 08:51 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Also i tried to stir the naptha and it sisnt look like it even broke the top at all.

I ended up putting the lid on and doing the figure 8 swirling

Going to wait till my dish is ready and ill mix it 4 times or so and do a pull, see how it looks


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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Enkidu]
    #26819003 - 07/12/20 09:29 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

The naphtha floats always on top and hardly mixes with the aqueous solution.

It's the black water that you have to mix/stirr. The more water comes in touch with the naphtha plane the better.

If the water-to-bark ratio is too dense you can always add more water later (and of course the respective ammount of lye).

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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26819793 - 07/12/20 04:11 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I got it all in a quart jar right now, dont think i have any bigger jars

I could mix it up real well then sludge half of it into a second jar? Probably make a huge mess

Maybe these next pulls will get me something decent

Had the glass out of the freezer for about 6 hours in an ac room with the ceiling fan on. Tempted to scrape it and taste a bit

My mullein wont be here for a few days but i habe some mugwort i think and passion flower

Thought i read to let it dry for a whole day after its out of the freezer

Curious to see what pull 2 will yield

Thats interesting about the naptha, i guess i thought it mixed in then slowly separated out


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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Enkidu]
    #26820043 - 07/12/20 07:16 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Well heres what i got



Seems pretty clean

Was some oil though, that normal or is that unwanted residue?

Should i re-x this?


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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Enkidu]
    #26820048 - 07/12/20 07:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Too little to bother re-xing really. It's fine how it is, just a little tannin.

Hopefully see more on your next pull. Fingers crossed for you mang.


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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Northerner]
    #26820061 - 07/12/20 07:32 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks man, about to stir her up right now over the next hour or two and do a pull


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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Enkidu]
    #26820226 - 07/12/20 10:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Well i went to do a pull and my naptha was cloudy as fuck, when i sucked it up the shit looked red/ blackish

So i put it back in and didnt do a pull yet

Not sure why its so dark?

First pull was clear as fuck

Wasnt sure if maybe it needs to settle a bit or will i need to pull and re-x it to get rid of whatever is in there..?


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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Enkidu]
    #26820371 - 07/13/20 01:01 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Might have leached out tannins or even sucked a bit of the basic solution... Did you use heat?. Maybe just let it settle a good while. The spice won't migrate back to the basic solution. No rush man.

Buy a pipette already. They're like $3, pump handle will cost you 10 but last many years if you grease it.


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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Northerner]
    #26820488 - 07/13/20 05:37 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Nope, no heat

Is there something i can do to it? Add more salt or lye or something?

Or will it clear up on its own..?

Thia morning looks just as cloudy


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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Enkidu]
    #26820498 - 07/13/20 05:52 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Pull it and freeze it man, see what happens.  :awesome:


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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Northerner]
    #26820537 - 07/13/20 06:44 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Alright will do

Is this what an emulsion is or is this something else?

Be nice if i knew why it happen, maybe swirling too hard or something?

Wondering if i should try an a/b extraction with the rest of my powdered bark

Heard some people like working with shredded more so be cool to try shredded out

Wondering if i should freeze and thaw it a few times in some vinegar


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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Enkidu]
    #26820541 - 07/13/20 06:46 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Idk maybe i fucked this one up. I added more salt and lye and stirred it and noe the shits black as night, cant even differentiate between layers


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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Enkidu]
    #26820546 - 07/13/20 06:50 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Just leave it. Let it settle... No rush.


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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Northerner]
    #26820549 - 07/13/20 06:52 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Alright will do. Its already clearing back up to its original cloudy as fuck

Ita 9am here now, should i just leave it till tonight and try a pull or dont meed to wait 12 hours?


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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Enkidu]
    #26820613 - 07/13/20 07:52 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I'd give it a few hours at least mate. It's not going anywhere and if it was locked in emulsion even more will come out.


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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Northerner]
    #26820716 - 07/13/20 09:27 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Alright ill just let it sit the better part of the day


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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Enkidu]
    #26821083 - 07/13/20 12:56 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

So this is what the pull looks like



Not sure what to do with my soup, add new naptha and try for another pull?


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Re: Dmt extraction [Re: Enkidu]
    #26821241 - 07/13/20 02:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Looks like you're gonna get yellow DMT.  :awesome:

Yes, pull it again. Have another go.


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