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Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity
    #26820122 - 07/12/20 08:35 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Hey everyone, just wanted to pop in and mention that I have the opportunity to attend an Ayahuasca retreat in September. The only psychedelics I’m experienced in are mushrooms. I was wondering if I could get some peoples opinions and experiences (short version.) I’m pretty knowledgeable on the benefits/effects of Ayahuasca and have always wanted to experience it. For spiritual and medical reasons. Also the session is 3 persons max not including teacher. So it’s pretty private. The setting is also spectacular. This teacher has come highly recommended also


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: FuckCancer]
    #26820195 - 07/12/20 09:47 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I think it will in large be dependent on the guide and how much he doses you

Ive heard mixed results with retreats, would love to hear an update on your experience when it comes


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: Enkidu]
    #26820243 - 07/12/20 10:38 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

In the mean time you could always try some Psilohuasca :P


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: Sabnock] * 1
    #26820473 - 07/13/20 05:04 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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In the mean time you could always try some Psilohuasca :P



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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: Enkidu]
    #26820556 - 07/13/20 06:57 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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I think it will in large be dependent on the guide and how much he doses you

Ive heard mixed results with retreats, would love to hear an update on your experience when it comes




Will def get more info and keep you updated When the time comes.


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: FuckCancer]
    #26820562 - 07/13/20 07:02 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I suppose the setting and the guide himself will play a large role in the experience as well

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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: Enkidu]
    #26821506 - 07/13/20 05:12 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, the setting is amongst all the mother plants and cacti and the teacher himself plays the music. Unsure which instrument(s) though.

And thank you! :heart:


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: FuckCancer] * 1
    #26821521 - 07/13/20 05:24 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Have you seen pictures of where you will actually be tripping?  As in- the room/area .  Indoors/outdoors or halfsies? Night or a day.  Dose?  Will people be talking or moving?  What r the restrictions ?  Etc.  I’m curious.


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26821605 - 07/13/20 06:25 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Also, are you doing this locally or plane trip involved?

But blindass has questions I'm curious about too.


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: FuckCancer] * 3
    #26821636 - 07/13/20 06:49 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Instead of doing that, you should just do ayahuasca in the safety and comfort of your own home. There's no reason to pay some middleman for something you can and should do yourself.


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26821754 - 07/13/20 08:04 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Also, are you doing this locally or plane trip involved?

But blindass has questions I'm curious about too.





For both You and BlindAsss -

So what I know so far is that it will be outdoors during the session amongst all the acacia and caapi and other mother plants he has grown and studied over the past 20 years. Think picnic area but amongst the plants. It’s also a BNB so there will be an indoor space I’m sure for those suited. As I stated above 3 persons max attend and he the guide. He planted his teacher vine 20 years back and has learned everything dosage wise, to reduction of trip, how to brew, how to present it, etc.

I am still in talks with him so any other information I gather I will happily report back to this thread for you all.

This is also a local retreat. I will not be flying overseas anywhere.


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: nooneman]
    #26821761 - 07/13/20 08:07 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

You’re right. I would much rather do that but I have no idea where to start to gather ingredients and/or grow them myself. Sure I could learn. Which I hope to learn whilst on this retreat.


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    #26821765 - 07/13/20 08:10 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I have mixed feelings about this kind of thing...but ya never know until ya know.  Have you met this guy before and conversed? How much is it?

I don’t care much for a middle man either....if it’s an introduction or initiation to something new, I might make an exception depending on things... but ya, I feel much of it is like selling water next to a river.  Good for those who don’t know the river is there...I suppose, but if you know the river & know it’s freely open and available to all and any - then having someone mediate your direct experience of reality without the normal filters becomes a hinderance much of the time.  Know what I mean?

Either way, if it won’t break the bank, and you have the opportunity, sometimes life throws you the most interesting curveball, in a good way - in terms of the people you meet and what happens etc etc.  but the opposites also possible & possibly more likely.

.People can be easily & highly suggestible while tripping, so I prefer solo - private mind only experience  - as much as I can let it be- I even prefer instrumental only music for that same reason, so  use your discernment and be honest with yourself about this and you’ll figure out what’s the best move for you and everyone in your life.  That’s just my take from my own little piece of mind, good luck to you :thumbup:


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26821780 - 07/13/20 08:19 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Sounds like it could be awesome to me

I would go


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26821782 - 07/13/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I totally understand this isn’t the traditional way to experience it.. Also have only conversed via email. Was sent pictures as well as a few links including a YouTube video of his speech on Acacia DMT in Australia. Again, as stated above, he has come  Highly recommended, for Australia.

Also it is $350 a session.


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: Enkidu]
    #26821786 - 07/13/20 08:21 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I’m not saying it won’t be, I have no idea - is what I’m saying -  only he can tell, it’s his life.  We only are seeing a sliver of the situation compared to him.

Just wanted to bring up some concerns & questions is all.

Hate seeing people getting grifted/duped when it comes to religion/spiritually/mysticism/anything  & drugs.


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26821800 - 07/13/20 08:27 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I def know what you mean by being easily suggestible whilst tripping. But in my heart of hearts I have a good feeling this opportunity arose simply because both my mother and I have been manifesting it to happen. I guess this would be a funny time to mention that I am doing this retreat with my own mother. Lol. Also, while we drink the plant, he plays instrumental music himself during the session.


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26821808 - 07/13/20 08:30 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Couls be a disaster

Id still go

Chance for a good experience would be worth the risk of a bad one to me


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    #26821814 - 07/13/20 08:32 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

A trip with your mother?  Sounds like a great opportunity to deepen your bonds and cleanse any smut that’s built up over the years between you two.    Does she have any experience with psychedelics? 

If that’s the case, and dude man is just singing/playing music and chill, I’m more prone to say go for it, mostly because I’ve always wished to do something similar - and since it’s about you & yourself & your mom & herself & your mom & you, it doesn’t really matter what anyone else is going to be doing if the setting is good & comforting/right.  At least, those are my hopes :grin:

I want to have a trip with each of my siblings and parents - but individually - and then after I’ve tripped with each of them 1 on 1  - I want to do a big group family trip altogether -  before any one of us die, that’s been a deep wish of mine for a long time. 



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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: The Blind Ass] * 2
    #26821932 - 07/13/20 09:31 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah my mother and I are very close. She was my carer for a couple years during a Hodgkin lymphoma battle I had 2016-2017. And yeah, she has experience with psychedelics. The same as I, with only mushrooms. I posted a great read on that trip. We tripped for the first time together and was a great time haha.

Here’s the link if you want to check it out: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26465609

And yeah that’s more so my vibe. I love nature, being surrounded by it. Musically I am broad so I love all types especially instrumental during a trip (just not country or screamo) - no disrespect to those who love it it’s just not my type, tripping or not lol.


I think psychedelics with family is great! I’ve tripped with my mum and Aunty. My grandmother also has tripped with us one time too. She wanted to experience the magic of the mush so I guided her through that. Wasn’t her thing but she was happy she experienced it. The visuals were bit too much for her lol. I truly hope you get to experience trips with members of your family. It is a fun time. Especially when you know that other family member and you are very close and get along very well.


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: FuckCancer] * 1
    #26822321 - 07/14/20 04:15 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I'd rather do it alone in my home. But it's up to you.
Sure you can have a good time, if he knows what he's doing.


But 350 dollars for one session.. per person? So 700 bucks in total?
For that money you can get 5 kilos of rootbark and brew your own ayahuasca more than 1000 times.
Even in smaller quantities it's like 1 to 2 bucks per trip only. :shrug:

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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26822403 - 07/14/20 06:40 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I would love to & may very well possibly end up doing that but i guess you could call this trip an initiation.


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: FuckCancer]
    #26822613 - 07/14/20 09:41 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

You call it whatever you like buddy.

I too am of the idea that you should do it at home. But you can do as you please, that is the most important part. Be safe.


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    #26822731 - 07/14/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I think doing it in the Peruvian jungle could be a wonderful experience and I have always fantasized about doing something like that myself. However, I hesitate because I feel it would be the kind of thing that seems bright and romantic in one's imagination yet would probably be uncomfortable in reality, as it would be too unfamiliar a set and setting. Silent darkness in my own bed is my preferred MO, with a toilet/bucket nearby.

I'd probably prefer to find a close friend to go with, obtain the materials ourselves and camp out with a western guide if that was possible. We couldn't really ask for a place further from our normal familiar surroundings, not only because of the jungle itself but also because we would be with total strangers, whose ideas about Ayahusaca and culture itself (unless you go in for the new age stuff) would divert wildly from our own.

But these are largely my own hang ups and fears I think, and if you are an adventurous type, and go into it with a brave and positive attitude I'm sure it could be fantastic. However it goes, I'm sure it will be an unforgettable experience so don't just make it about Ayahuasca, but the whole experience. There is definitely more to an experience like that than simply tripping, and if my own experience is anything to go by (especially with B caapi) you probably won't get that much from it the first few times. 

Oh, and don't get lost!:thumbup:

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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: FuckCancer]
    #26822940 - 07/14/20 12:25 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Blah.  Hope this special teacher is worth what you are paying.  Loved my experience on it.  Takes a hell of a long time to brew compared to shrooms or lsd and stank up whole apartment.  At the time roommates got I was doing some illegal in the states by my fear and smell, is horrid, so is the taste.  But they let me be so I respect them for that. 

Point being it connects to one personally and teaches.  I get why some need a guide but I have had enough esoteric experiences it just used that and taught me of the connection, shown to me as a visual of electric green grid that I can connect to anyone at any time.  No such thing as time.  But with that comes responsibility. 

Have gone back in time and yes, people get annoyed.  We stand of the shoulders of giants.  If ones intellect and being isn't near it, which mine isn't, they aren't happy.  I learned. 

Enjoy your experience.  Is well worth it.  Just not to someone else giving them money except for the needed ingredients.  Just research it going in.  And no I didn't puke.  I have an iron stomach and I took a fair amount. 

A lot of it is if you take care of your body and fit and if one chooses to fast before it.  Enjoy it, is a good teacher.  No humans required.


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: Barnaby]
    #26824365 - 07/15/20 03:20 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

The money is no problem. Don’t care about that. I definitely get what everybody is saying in regards to safety, set & setting. I 100% know I’m going into this and willingly will be drinking ayahuasca with 2 of my family members and a Gardener. I say gardener because he is well-seasoned in knowledge when it comes to these Psychoactive plants. It’s been his life’s work.

I, among others have learned a lot on shroomery and other forums. I always wanted to try magic mushrooms and I manifested that to happen in my life. I taught myself how to identify, cultivate, dose, etc w/ mushrooms. Others have learned and done WAY more than I and I applaud that! :heart:

Now this is just me manifesting Ayahausca into my life which has happened also. I am a very positive and high spirited person. I do not judge. I am a very patient person (can thank cancer battle for that one lol). I love everyone and everything unless given proper reason not to. This opportunity or “retreat” If you will, fell in my lap as if it were meant to be. I am a seeker. I don’t intend for this experience to be ‘for fun.’ My intentions are all good going into this.

When it comes to cleansing or dieting, I have been plant based since I beat cancer in 2017. May not be the healthiest plant based (whole food diet) diet but I do know that 2 weeks prior he has dietary requests for us to do.


Here is a quick Q&A discussion between us for those that also want to know more. And please, no hate or judgement in this thread. Opinions are welcome.

Q: What is the setting before/during/after the ceremony? How long does it take?  Is it a night or day time session? Any restrictions?

A: You will be guests in my humble home. In the garden where the actual plants in the medicine grow.
Arrive 4pm for a couple of hrs chat, we dose around 6pm, lasts around 6 hrs I generally serve fruit salad supper around midnight. You will be prone on mats in my loungeroom, where you will also sleep overnight. The experience is about being with the plants and myself whom the plants use as a conduit to guide the session.
I use a playlist and I sing and play guitar. Also sing in plant language/ energy healing available, rattles and all that shamanic stuff.
It is your session you can have whatever you want. Bring whatever bling you want.


Q: How do you determine dosage?  (Does it vary based on weight, tolerance, etc)?

A: From the talk we have beforehand, I gauge what you require.  I also dose gradually, because this is personal service I dose you when and how it is needed, ease people in. Every element of the brew is grown/ sustainably harvested and prepared by myself, there is nothing whatsoever toxic in it. Ive dosed 78yo’s with cancer.

Q: What is the DMT/MAOI combination? Syrian Rue or B.Caapi for MAOI?
Acacia or psychotria viridis leaves for DMT?  I mention Syrian Rue seeds because of what I know of Psilohausca, which I’m sure you may also be familiar with.

A: Im am using the thick 20yo vine I grew, as seen in the picture I sent you.
I use a special blend of acacias, my brew is very unique.
I discuss the relationship with the vine and acacia in the video link in an earlier email.
Psilohausca is actually vine with psilocybin mushrooms.
The acacia in my brew tunes us into the Dreamtime energies of Australia.
If you are wanting a traditional psychotria brew, I could make one for you for a negotiated price, and to be honest it would only be half as good as my ascension medicine.

Q: Also, are there any restrictions regarding the session? I know there are dietary steps to take to detoxify the body before Ayahausca. We are vegan already and one a cannabis user. Would it be best to abstain from cannabis, alcohol, caffeine, etc a week or 2 prior to ceremony?

A: Try reduce things as much as possible, cannabis is ok, but try abstain on the day.


“We drink around dusk, say between 5-6
I like to have a good chat and bonding, for a couple of hrs first.
So I tell folks to arrive around 4
Beautiful lake walk at the bottom of the street if your early.
Don’t sweat it if your delayed, there are no starting rules.

Bring sheet,doona ,pillow etc
I will provide a fruit salad supper, that after years of different options seems by far the most popular.
In the morning, we will have a meditation and debrief, usually finish up around 10am.
Then you are close to beaches and cafes. A swim in the ocean is highly recommended.”

All in all. If worse case scenario, oh well, Atleast I got an extra 3 years.


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: FuckCancer]
    #26824369 - 07/15/20 03:34 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: Enkidu]
    #26825003 - 07/15/20 11:42 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Sound good indeed. But still not for me. I don't need another human in my head.

How come the trip is about the plant and the teacher? As he is a conduit. Why no mention of the person actually drinking the brew? Idk I'm definitely a nay Sayer on these subjects.


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    #26825039 - 07/15/20 11:56 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Interesting that some people would be closed off to the idea of that experience, without experiencing it

If i imagine him and his mom dosing at one of their places vs the retreat, the retreat seems far more magical and aids in creating what sounds like a beautiful setting

The music and chanting or drums and being surrounded by the living growing plants you ingest, sounds magical

Fruit salad and a dip in the sea? Count me in for that

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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: Enkidu] * 1
    #26825070 - 07/15/20 12:11 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Riiight but if that's what I wanted then I would do it. I prefer to make it myself that way I don't have to rely on others. I can gauge the dose and the experience at my own pace. In my home.

  Its simply a personal choice. And I have wished the op be safe. So I wish them the best. There is just too many cons for my personal taste.


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: Enkidu]
    #26825097 - 07/15/20 12:21 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Sounds like the guy hosting is just providing a spiritual service he's fine tuned over the years.  Intention matters. :awesomenod:

The B&B Mushroom Experience would be a similar endeavor, too bad it's not yet legal here.

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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: FuckCancer]
    #26825224 - 07/15/20 01:12 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Going for my yearly checkup with my doc. tomorrow morning.  For those that have cancer or other diseases, I feel for you.  Can't imagine how taking those mental and physical journies would be for one.

I don't think anyone takes it for "fun".  Not exactly a party drug.  Hope your cancer goes into remission and your body heals itself.  Don't believe in I ONLY HAVE 3 YEARS! 

Wish you the best man.


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: Barnaby]
    #26825236 - 07/15/20 01:18 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I think you can have a blast...go for it!

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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26825442 - 07/15/20 03:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I tried pharmahuasca once with my buddy at home.  We took 200mg of DMT and some crude syrian rue extract.  In hindsight, I would have taken less.  It would have been useful to have someone with experience, as we had no idea what to expect and thought we could handle it.

After dosing we purged within minutes, and went out on our quest to set up hammocks in the woods.  We got to the tree line and couldn't go any further.  Found a shady spot to lay down and spent some time there.  Eventually we moved to behind my shop for a while, then went into my shop where I had a papasan chair on a section of carpeting.  I gave my buddy the chair and just sprawled out on the carpet, alternating between staring up at the metal ceiling and closing my eyes. 

After another undefined amount of time, I realized I was extremely thirsty, so I muttered the word "water" and walked up to the house.  At this point I became paranoid that my mother was home, as this was before she knew I did drugs so I absolutely could not risk running into her.  I decided I should use the outside faucet instead, so I turned it on only to become frustrated when I could hear the water but it wasn't coming out (the hose was attached  :facepalm: ). 

I came to the conclusion that without water, I would die, so I crawled under the house and found a good spot.  Not long after I came to my senses and continued my quest for water, this time going inside (once I figured out the door handle mechanism).  I spent a fair amount of time in my room hiding from my mom, before eventually realizing that she wasn't even home.  Finally I went out into the kitchen and got myself a glass of water.

By this time the trip wasn't overwhelming, just very vivid and colorful.  I put on some dubstep and turned the volume way up (broadcasting station activated!).  I was having a jolly old time when I remembered my buddy was still in the shop.  I went and got him, and we chilled inside for a bit.  At some point I decided I needed a view, so I climbed up on my roof and collected a few. 

Later on my mom came home, so we disappeared out the back door and into the woods.  Finally we got the hammock set up and a small fire going.  We then took turns dual-wielding machetes and hacking apart pine trees under the largest oak in the forest.

All in all it was a good trip, even with it's darker moments.  I'm not sure how I would feel about spending that kind of money on it, but if the price doesn't bother you then it should be pretty chill.


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: yoosername]
    #26825684 - 07/15/20 05:40 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Nice report :rockon:


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: Enkidu]
    #26825724 - 07/15/20 06:09 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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If i imagine him and his mom dosing at one of their places vs the retreat, the retreat seems far more magical and aids in creating what sounds like a beautiful setting

The music and chanting or drums and being surrounded by the living growing plants you ingest, sounds magical

Fruit salad and a dip in the sea? Count me in for that

I hope you have an amazing experience OP





Thank you! Truly!

The setting he has provided is exactly what we wanted. I live in a townhouse complex so doing it at home for the first time would not be as magnificent as it will be amongst the mother and teacher plants/cacti. That’s how it’s done in the Amazon and this is as close as it’s going to get to feel that experience.


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26825738 - 07/15/20 06:26 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Sounds like the guy hosting is just providing a spiritual service he's fine tuned over the years.  Intention matters. :awesomenod:

OP have a good experience!  :yinyang2:




Yes, that’s exactly his role. Thank you Primal!

As Los asked above why it’s about the teacher and the plant, it necessarily isn’t. He is providing the introduction of this ancient brew as the natives do in South America to those who seek. They too are conduits when providing the environment people are in when they drink ayahuasca by using rattles, shakers, music, harmonic noises, smoking, etc. as well as being in the middle of the jungle. This is what he will do and has done for many years.


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: Barnaby]
    #26825743 - 07/15/20 06:30 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I actually am in remission. Since 2017! You may have misread but it’s okay :heart: it’s nice to see a fellow warrior amongst the shroomery.  I am almost at yearly check ups. I just go in every 6 months. 2 more years than I’ll be classified as “cured” from Hodgkins.


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: FuckCancer]
    #26825787 - 07/15/20 07:05 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah i totally get that

I know a lot of the experience is within ourselves, but having a place like what you describe at the retreat over the run of the mill place (im in a duplex right now) sounds like it can add so much to the overall experience

Plus a cool setting, access to water, some fruit, and a guide in case things go south, and to keep things in gear,
Id go for it :super:

Hope the best for you and your mums :hatsoff:

Have a great time

Congrats man, keep the diet clean


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: Enkidu]
    #26825792 - 07/15/20 07:09 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

It's about what you're going to get out of it.  Sound like you like tripping with people you're close to, and like tripping in nature. So go for it!  Write up a Trip Report when you're done and link it back here!


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: dlj403]
    #26825839 - 07/15/20 07:37 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: sossagerumenkallah]
    #26825872 - 07/15/20 07:48 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah id like to read a report too

I wana see how this plays out for ya


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: sossagerumenkallah]
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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: dlj403]
    #26825908 - 07/15/20 08:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I will 100% be returning with a trip report! Thank you all again!


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: FuckCancer]
    #26826012 - 07/15/20 09:20 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

That's $350 AU?  Only $250 US. :awesomenod:


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26826064 - 07/15/20 10:14 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I would like a full detailed food review. From the initial walk in to the official walk out. Including the brew.

Please and thank you.


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26826101 - 07/15/20 10:57 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Don’t worry. I will go into as much detail as possible!


And yes Primal $350 aud. Not too bad at all imo.


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: FuckCancer]
    #26826199 - 07/16/20 01:30 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I apologize for the wall of text, but this is something that I take very seriously. Please be very careful with this, because if this is the real deal then this will most likely change you.

There are a few main factors that will help gauge this experience beforehand. I see that you will be utilizing a twenty year old vine, this is fantastic. Do you know how the brew will be prepared? will it be refined? how was the boil and how long was it soaked? Will there be any extra plants mixed in with the brew? If you can see through your cup you most likely aren't going to experience anything too deep. In fact you may not experience anything at all your first time, even with a thoroughly refined brew. Or you could go through the entire ceremony nodding off, feeling absolutely nothing and as soon as the ceremony closes - get shot out into space and surf the bardos with familiar spirits for the entire night until ten in the morning. Shes wild, man.

It took me eleven ceremonies before I was able to bond with ayahuasca, the first wave of ceremonies were just for her clearing me out enough to be able to do work. You have probably been informed of the medicines unpleasant taste by now. When you drink, just put the taste out of your mind the best you can. "burnt hair mixed with mud". it does not taste good... some brews are definitely milder or gnarlier than others. Thicker the brew the better, it always tastes muddy, but you really want it to feel a bit muddy too. If it looks like tea its more than likely going to be weak. Since you guys will be using a twenty year old vine I feel like this will be a proper brewing. Twenty years old. Dude, you are gonna fuckin FLY :rocket:

You seem like a good dude, guide seems okay and since you will be with family you're looking to be in line to having a very wonderful experience. Be prepared to shit and vomit spontaneously, possibly throughout the entire night. If you or any of your family is on medication it might be a good idea to attempt to wean from it at least a few weeks before the ceremony. Be careful if you are prone to seizures, they can occur with anybody in that state of mind, even if you have never had one before. In my experience they aren't harmful but actually healing, lot of electricity going through your nerves. Accept the possibility you may uncover something very traumatic or delicate, it is not uncommon to go temporarily hysterical. Try to remain grounded and work through your visions, do not allow them to pile up on you and get lost in them. You may feel like you are gone forever sometimes, you may experience excruciating pain that you believe is real. You just need to "be ready" and remember where your body actually is.

I'm sure everything will be fine man. I recommend to fast for at least twelve hours leading up to your ceremony. I know Daime does their ceremonies in light, but in my opinion the best way to do it is with the lights off, or very limited light, with candles, and flashlights when you need to get up and go to the bathroom, if you can get up. Look up soplaying and purification rituals - you'd like to think everyone is cool with one another in the astral plane, but thats not the case, and you need to protect your space and your spirit, mapacho/tobacco is regarded as a master plant spirit and will help protect you.

Again just remember that there is a possibility that it might not be very eventful your first time, or you could completely blast off the first night, its really up to her, she'll give you whatever you need to get, not necessarily what you want. Try not to smoke cannabis for a couple weeks before your ceremony - if you smoke - and try not to smoke for at least a few days after. your dreams will be seven-fold longer and more spectacular than your ceremony visions. Beautiful. With my experience aya doesn't seem to enjoy the company of cannabis. Again, the situation is different for everybody, I'm just sharing with you the way it works for me. I think she's really looking forward to meeting you.

I'm excited for you. God bless, Brother. Please be safe and learn as much as you can out there. And if you do see her, let her know I'll be seeing her again soon too. :whiteflag:


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: Ex oskeleto]
    #26826426 - 07/16/20 07:17 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Hi Fuck Cancer

Ayahuasca is very different from other psychedelics, including DMT. There are people who smoke DMT for purely recreational reasons, as it happens with mushrooms and every other "classic" psychedelic. On the other hand, I can't imagine someone drinking ayahuasca without a serious intention (I could be wrong). From what you have written, the latter seems to be your case.

As Ex Oskeleto said before me, the ayahuasca experience deeply changes you (the change can either be temporary or lasting), because it's completely different from what you can experience with other psychedelics (this also applies to DMT, but ayahuasca is another step beyond that). While on non-heoric doses of shrooms you deal with distortions of ordinary reality, on ayahuasca ordinary reality doesn't exist anymore and gets replaced by another world that is much more complex and is often inhabited by autonomous entities. The odds of experiencing ego death are also higher.

In short, it's a wild ride and before you go into it you have to be sure that it's the kind of experience you need in this particular moment of your life.


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: InnerEternity] * 1
    #26828472 - 07/17/20 09:00 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Thank You both Exo and Inner for what you know of the experience. truly!

As I stated above, in my heart of hearts, this is something that I have wanted to make happen. I truly am at a time in my life where this is needed. I am 3 years post remission from cancer. Post cancer I have only worked one job for 4 months but quit because of how strenuous it was on my body. I Met my beautiful fiance during my battle also. I struggle mentally at times even though its been 3 years, but I keep on the positive side most of times. I do my best to make others happy because it makes me happy to see others happy.

My very first mushroom trip took me on a beautiful time and it had even shown me parts of the amazon in my trip when i had CEV's. Yeah, this may be common, either way, i have a feeling i am being called to this mother plant. I know in Australia that acacia is a very very indigenous mother plant containing DMT. As stated above also, the "DREAMTIME" state of Australia and the world is where his specific brew can lead us. But no one truly knows where you end up once you drink her until done so.

I am 100% ready for whatever i encounter. I've faced cancer, death in its face, more than once, been through horrid pain, and still.... still I stand and just want to please everybody around me.

My intentions going into this, is to connect, is to connect with the earth, myself, and every energy i can, with the most positiveness and purity ever. No matter its other worldy.

As for the brew itself, it is a unique brew that he himself has finely tuned over 20 years between specific acacia and his 20 yr old teacher vine that he has learned everything from.

also, experiencing this medicine amongst its own, and to be with the mother plants while in altered state, i am prepared for battle, i am prepared for love, i prepared for whatever i encounter!

I cant wait to tell you all about my experience! :heart:


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: FuckCancer]
    #26832229 - 07/19/20 09:44 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

That's what I hoped to be the meaning behind your username. I wish you a safe journey!


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Re: Ayahuasca Retreat Opportunity [Re: InnerEternity]
    #26832837 - 07/19/20 04:31 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

have you checked out the ayahuasca.com forum? they have some good info there if you havent seen it yet


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