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Re: Ps. Cyanescens mycelium in mulch box, so far [Re: Hamsabala]
#26601459 - 04/14/20 07:42 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Very curious to see how this works out. I am prepping some Ps Cyanescens and Ps Azurescens for an outdoor patch but I just swabbed plates a few days ago so it be too late to get it started at this rate. Would love to know if indoor is possible.
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Re: Ps. Cyanescens mycelium in mulch box, so far [Re: Roundabout]
#26601876 - 04/15/20 12:54 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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So far so good. But it may well end up going the way of many other indoor attempts where it aborts or nothing happens. From all my research it seems that colonisation usually goes fine but trying to get them to pin is the challenge when indoors. Outdoors is meant to be far easier. But some have had a bit of success using glass door refrigerators set to the right temps and such, like the link in my last post on this thread (only 2 or 3 posts back if you want to have a look. Useful info.)
Hope your project goes well for you
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Re: Ps. Cyanescens mycelium in mulch box, so far [Re: Zenn]
#26682467 - 05/20/20 02:40 AM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Late update. So, it seems things are going well as the mycelium has come up through the verm but not as aggressive as it was with the previous casing attempts. May have dried slightly at one point as a slight bluing occurred but in general ot still smells good. No obvious primordia visible though (likely as expected) but the main problem I've experienced is the temperature now is a bit higher than is desired. 15°C to 18°C during the day to be fair I had hoped to be at this stage the first time I tried to case it back when I started this thread lol. But it saw it as food. I should have just used the verm back then. I have read there MIGHT be a chance they could still grow but it would be much slower. Really wish I had a glass front fridge. One would be hella useful right now.
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Re: Ps. Cyanescens mycelium in mulch box, so far [Re: Zenn]
#26714671 - 06/02/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pics update. With the warmer weather the mycelium was drying a little on the top with the layer of vermiculite. Buy I noticed some finger creeping up from the corner grasping a small piece of wood. So to try help keep more moisture on the top I added a very fine layer of oak bark chips. Seems to be responding. As for the heat right now, cant expect fruiting any time soon. If I can get a mini fridge with a glass door that could be good. But I'm gonna try keep this box happy. Wet look is due to just after misting.
Edited by Zenn (06/02/20 05:04 PM)
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Re: Ps. Cyanescens mycelium in mulch box, so far [Re: Zenn]
#26778096 - 06/23/20 11:16 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Ps. Cyanescens mycelium in mulch box, so far [Re: Zenn]
#26778484 - 06/24/20 06:06 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Place holder to watch progress. I’m rooting for you! So much work and patience!
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Re: Ps. Cyanescens mycelium in mulch box, so far [Re: Spaghettio73]
#26805970 - 07/05/20 09:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thank you ^_^ really just winging it at this point. For a first time with this particular fungi, I think its maybe going well since nothing catastrophic has happened yet. I find it interesting how the formation has changed from the original fluffy/puffy looking to rhizomorphic fingers. be very lucky if this works out.
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Ps.Cyan myc in mulch box. Indoors. Update: BABIES!! [Re: Zenn]
#26816533 - 07/11/20 04:39 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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BABY PIC UPDATE!
Sorry for the caps I'm just real excited. Last few days I've had the problem of finding 1 or 2 fungus gnats in the box. So have been spraying with 3% hydrogen peroxide to keep them at bay or to stop any eggs that may be left. So today I went to check and there were 3 flies in the box. Decided to haul the big brick out of the box to take down the plastic and give it a good spritz all over with the HP......and to my surprise I found all these little guys! At first I thought the 1st ones were eggs but then I was like....wait....that's too big to be an egg for that fly... gave it a poke and a closer look and found more popping up. Even a couple with a tiny brown head!
This is very good sign!!!
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Re: Ps.Cyan myc in mulch box. Indoors. Update: BABIES!! [Re: Zenn]
#26817009 - 07/11/20 10:44 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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As for the gnats, each day there are 1 or 2 in the box. They are either getting in because there is an open window near it, or there could be eggs. I'm not very sure. I'm not sure what to do about them. I am about to try hanging a little fly paper/tape in there to catch any that enter hopefully. If anyone has any advice on fungus gnat protection it would be much appreciated.
So far changed the box liner. Hoping the paper will help keep them out of the myc. Wee buggers. Doesnt help that it's a very buggy time of year. Alot of normal flies and other things going about.
Edited by Zenn (07/12/20 06:05 PM)
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Re: Fungus gnats [Re: Zenn]
#26819962 - 07/12/20 06:07 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Zenn said: As for the gnats, each day there are 1 or 2 in the box. They are either getting in because there is an open window near it, or there could be eggs. I'm not very sure. I'm not sure what to do about them. I am about to try hanging a little fly paper/tape in there to catch any that enter hopefully. If anyone has any advice on fungus gnat protection it would be much appreciated.
So far changed the box liner. Hoping the paper will help keep them out of the myc. Wee buggers. Doesnt help that it's a very buggy time of year. Alot of normal flies and other things going about.
Place a small cup with a mixture of apple cider vinegar and a drop of dish soap near your tubs. Cover it with plastic and poke tiny holes in the plastic, they will go in and they will drown in the vinegar. It’s way sweeter and more attracting than the tubs I’m sure.
Also in for updates lol
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Huh, I dont know why I didnt think of that! I usually do that for fruit flies in the kitchen. Thank you.
Question though what if they are actually inside the brick, like if there are eggs in the box and they hatch, would a vinegar trap attract them out of the box away from the myc? Or would I maybe put a little vinegar tub in the box?
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Re: Fungus gnats [Re: Zenn]
#26819985 - 07/12/20 06:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Zenn said: Huh, I dont know why I didnt think of that! I usually do that for fruit flies in the kitchen. Thank you.
Question though what if they are actually inside the brick, like if there are eggs in the box and they hatch, would a vinegar trap attract them out of the box away from the myc? Or would I maybe put a little vinegar tub in the box?
That I am not too sure about, I have had success catching them that way beforehand but I don’t have anything colonizing openly or fruiting yet so def wait for some more opinions
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Well, no harm in at least having one of those at least in the room. I dont have apple cider vinegar but have malt vinegar, honey and liquid soap which should do the trick. It may be ok to have a jar inside the box as long as its stable as I already know vinegar kills myc. But like you say will wait and see what other opinions are, what other things could help keep the wee beasties at bay. So far there only appears to be a little metabolites due to the top layer of bark or a couple other wooden parts but in general the whole thing is a white brick. No other obvious nasty contamination
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Re: Fungus gnats [Re: Zenn]
#26820036 - 07/12/20 07:10 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I read the only way to rid the substrate of eggs would be to submerge it overnight
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Noted. Hopefully it doesnt have eggs. But I just wonder since I keep finding them inside the box. But not enough at once for me to consider it infested. If i cant stop them with the traps and number grow i might well submerge it. Trying to think of methods now before their numbers get worse. Have read they can be a pain in the ass when theres alot of them
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Re: Fungus gnats [Re: Zenn]
#26820066 - 07/12/20 07:38 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I recently had my first gnat experience.
Saw a tiny fly running around the surface one day and killed it, then few days later there were tiny maggots on the wall and my sub was oozing gross shit like crazy.
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Re: Fungus gnats [Re: A.k.a]
#26820104 - 07/12/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Oof. Well luckily so far I havent seen any maggots. As soon as I spotted more after the initial one I changed the liner incase there were eggs. There may still be as they like damp soily places. There has been the odd little yellow bead of water but it is clear and yellow. Not like what you posted there yet. Did you manage to fix/treat it or was it a case of having to throw it out?
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Re: Fungus gnats [Re: Zenn]
#26820107 - 07/12/20 08:25 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Had to toss it. I sprayed the area I thought the maggots were coming from with iso and didn’t see anything for a few days so I thought I got them. I still kept the lid on and moved it to the garage and then I went again after a couple more days to check and there were a bunch of flies in it.
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Re: Fungus gnats [Re: A.k.a]
#26820121 - 07/12/20 08:35 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ah that sucks I'm sorry that happened. I'm hoping to try keep them at bay. I decided to pop a little jar in the box with a vinegar, honey, soap trap but in a ramekin that's light, low and wont fall over. I've had great success using such a trap in the kitchen for fruit flies. If this is a really bad idea however and someone thinks I should take it out I will. The reason i think it could be ok though for an object on top of the substrate, the wavy caps do seem to like growing up from beneath sticks and other things so maybe it wont mind the ramekin. I figure as long as the vinegar doesnt touch the myc in any way it should be ok? Just really need to try control ot as I'm lucky to get to this stage and it would seriously suck if this project was taken down by little bugs after all this time
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