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Are Christains breaking the ten commandments by woreshipping Jesus?
#26819595 - 07/12/20 02:36 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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The first 2 commandments are
Thou shalt have no other gods before me
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image
which I assume they are the most important if god writ them before murder and adultery and stealing, dosnt worshipping Jesus break these commandments, I could say the same thing about other Abrahamic religions having thier own prophet they worship like Mohamed
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One thing that Jesus, Mohamed and Buddha all have in common is they encouraged their followers to fast regularly
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Re: Are Christains breaking the ten commandments by woreshipping Jesus? [Re: gopher]
#26819623 - 07/12/20 02:44 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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There's a reason many religions and sects discourage building statues. Distracting as hell. I've seen it in both Buddhist temples and the Vatican. The sense of awe is from the decor, not from connecting with anything higher. The Basilica feels more like an art museum than a place of worship.
PS: All three of them also encouraged waking up before sunrise and practicing some form of meditation.
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Re: Are Christains breaking the ten commandments by woreshipping Jesus? [Re: gopher] 1
#26819656 - 07/12/20 02:58 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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At the Council of Nicaea in 325 A.D. the church officially assumed the stance that the Father and the Son are completely equal based on the fact that they are "of the same substance". In this view, Jesus and God are two aspects of the same thing so worshipping one is essentially equivalent to worshipping the other. This is the whole concept of the holy trinity. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all essentially the same thing but represent different facets of God. God= The creator or the Genesis from which all things come. Jesus is God manifest in the world, and the Holy Spirit is God without form that pervades all creation.
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Re: Are Christains breaking the ten commandments by woreshipping Jesus? [Re: gopher]
#26819659 - 07/12/20 02:59 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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gopher said:
Thou shalt have no other gods before me
Christians forget that that includes church.
Church is a paid insert between you and God who Godsplans what you feel inside for $$, but who keep you from merging with the God Inside because then they are out of business.
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Re: Are Christains breaking the ten commandments by woreshipping Jesus? [Re: gopher] 1
#26819683 - 07/12/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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gopher said: which I assume they are the most important
Matthew 22:37 - Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
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Re: Are Christains breaking the ten commandments by woreshipping Jesus? [Re: roma-enola]
#26819700 - 07/12/20 03:16 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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roma-enola said: At the Council of Nicaea in 325 A.D. the church officially assumed the stance that the Father and the Son are completely equal based on the fact that they are "of the same substance". In this view, Jesus and God are two aspects of the same thing so worshipping one is essentially equivalent to worshipping the other. This is the whole concept of the holy trinity. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all essentially the same thing but represent different facets of God. God= The creator or the Genesis from which all things come. Jesus is God manifest in the world, and the Holy Spirit is God without form that pervades all creation.
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Re: Are Christains breaking the ten commandments by woreshipping Jesus? [Re: gopher] 1
#26819733 - 07/12/20 03:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Everyone thinks that Christianity is the peaceful religion. Forgetting they use to burn women at the stake for sour milk or having green eyes. They thought it was witch craft and the devil lol. Everyone on here thinks mushrooms should be used for spirituality instead but if you look at history the civilizations that used psychedelics went completely insane .. Maybe we should all become atheists and embrace Nihilism.???
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Re: Are Christains breaking the ten commandments by woreshipping Jesus? [Re: Shenmue] 1
#26819736 - 07/12/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Are Christains breaking the ten commandments by woreshipping Jesus? [Re: Asante]
#26819745 - 07/12/20 03:36 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Asante said:
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gopher said:
Thou shalt have no other gods before me
Christians forget that that includes church.
Church is a paid insert between you and God who Godsplans what you feel inside for $$, but who keep you from merging with the God Inside because then they are out of business.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tithe
Today, tithes are normally voluntary and paid in cash or cheques, whereas historically tithes were required and paid in kind, such as agricultural produce.
They are donations.
Can't get mad at that, if someone wanted to Tithe me for eternity I wouldn't complain either....
https://www.daveramsey.com/blog/daves-advice-on-tithing-and-giving#:~:text=According%20to%20Leviticus%2027%3A30,these%20verses%20are%20essentially%20saying
According to Leviticus 27:30 (TLB), “A tenth of the produce of the land, whether grain or fruit, is the Lord’s, and is holy.” And Proverbs 3:9 (NIV) says, “Honor the Lord with your wealth, with the firstfruits of all your crops.” The gardening metaphors may have thrown you off, but these verses are essentially saying to give a portion, specifically a tenth, of whatever you make (aka your income) back to God. And firstfruits is just a biblical way of saying that you should give first—before you do anything else with your money.
The Bible tells us that tithing is a way to show that we trust God with our lives and our finances. But the tithe wasn’t put in place for God’s benefit—He already owns everything. He doesn’t need our money. Instead, tithing is meant for our benefit because sacrificing a portion of our income helps us look outside our selfishness and makes us more aware of the needs of others.
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Re: Are Christains breaking the ten commandments by woreshipping Jesus? [Re: Amanita86]
#26819746 - 07/12/20 03:37 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said:
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gopher said: which I assume they are the most important
Matthew 22:37 - Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
^ he gets it.
Jesus is more of neighbor love instead of Godly big Papa the man kinda love.
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Re: Are Christains breaking the ten commandments by woreshipping Jesus? [Re: The Blind Ass]
#26819754 - 07/12/20 03:41 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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1. John 10:30 The Father and I are one.
2. Philippians 2:5-6 You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had. Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to.
3. John 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
4. John 1:18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.
5. Colossians 2:9-10 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily. and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head over every power and authority.
So the answer is no
Furthermore Jesus only states things like "I did not come to abolish the law" in order to get the pharisees to chill out. They were getting the impression wanted to undermine the authority they had to interpret/enforce the jewish laws. in a sense he was doing so by telling people that their consciences can adequately guide them now, but he had to say that because he still had ministry to accomplish and if they didnt chill out they would have killed him sooner.
The old testament furthermore states
But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
in matthew 5:17 jesus states that he has come to fulfill this promise.
then you see romans chapter 2 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus.
essentially in the old testament god is promising that one day people will be able to abstract well enough that their ability to do the right thing can be adequately guided by their consciences rather than a written set of rules. jesus comes along and says, "it's time, that promise being fulfilled".
paul muddies the water a lot by writing a bunch of things that appear to be prescriptive but keep in mind that paul never even met jesus during the time of his ministry, he only supposedly had a vision of jesus on the road to damascus.
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Re: Are Christains breaking the ten commandments by woreshipping Jesus? [Re: morrowasted]
#26819847 - 07/12/20 04:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: Are Christains breaking the ten commandments by woreshipping Jesus? [Re: gopher]
#26819906 - 07/12/20 05:32 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yes, worshipping Jesus is idol worship.
muslims dont worship mohammad so they are not idol worshipers.
I share a similar fundamental view with maimonides aka RAMBAM on this one. He is probably the most highly regarded post talmudic jewish scholar basically said christians should be treated like idol worshippers, you cant drink their wine, you cant pray in churches, etc.
but he defended islam as not idolatrous and considered muslims true worshippers of god against other voices at the time.
But he said that since muslims regard the hebrew bible as a lie there is no point discussing the bible with them and he acctually said it was forbidden to do so.
However christians do accept the hebrew bible as divinely inspired so christians and jews can cite the same authority. So according to Maimonides Jews are not only permitted to talk to christians about the bible but he said good things could come from such discussions.
He basically viewed christianity as a percect example of straying from god but he thought of both christianity and Islam a part of a step toward the Messianic age.
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Re: Are Christains breaking the ten commandments by woreshipping Jesus? [Re: Amanita86]
#26819930 - 07/12/20 05:46 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said:
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gopher said: which I assume they are the most important
Matthew 22:37 - Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. 39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
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Re: Are Christains breaking the ten commandments by woreshipping Jesus? [Re: Jewstress]
#26819971 - 07/12/20 06:16 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Jewstress said: Jesus is more of neighbor love instead of Godly big Papa the man kinda love.
OH NO HE'S DEF BIG PAPPA IN THIS BITCH!!! JESUS LOVES YALL AND DIED FOR YALL BELIEVE IT YALL!!! HE ONLY WANTZ YALL TO DO WHAT'Z RIGHT AND NOT FALL VICTIM TO THE DEVIL'Z HELLFIRE
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Re: Are Christains breaking the ten commandments by woreshipping Jesus? [Re: zZZz]
#26820034 - 07/12/20 07:06 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Religion and logic aren't a good mix.
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Re: Are Christains breaking the ten commandments by woreshipping Jesus? [Re: qman]
#26820042 - 07/12/20 07:14 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Some people struggle to understand..
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#26820156 - 07/12/20 09:09 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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Amanita86 said: Some people struggle to understand..
God is love. Love is blind. Ray Charles is blind. Ray Charles is God.
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Re: Are Christains breaking the ten commandments by woreshipping Jesus? [Re: HamHead]
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Re: Are Christains breaking the ten commandments by woreshipping Jesus? [Re: gopher]
#26820180 - 07/12/20 09:33 PM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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gopher said: The first 2 commandments are
Thou shalt have no other gods before me
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image
which I assume they are the most important if god writ them before murder and adultery and stealing, dosnt worshipping Jesus break these commandments, I could say the same thing about other Abrahamic religions having thier own prophet they worship like Mohamed
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One thing that Jesus, Mohamed and Buddha all have in common is they encouraged their followers to fast regularly
The whole idea of Christianity is that if you believe in Jesus those sins will be forgiven.
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