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Tomentose myc or contam? Pics
    #26818706 - 07/12/20 04:47 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Any input as to why this myc looks much different than the rest of the very ropey growth in this jar ?



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Re: Tomentose myc or contam? Pics [Re: CrashTest]
    #26818714 - 07/12/20 04:53 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Slightly unusual but I don't see anything wrong with them, I've seen mixtures of different mycelium like that before.  Those are getting close to fully colonized though.  Are you planning on just fruiting off the cakes, or casing/shoebox/monotub?


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Re: Tomentose myc or contam? Pics [Re: w00tmycelium]
    #26818725 - 07/12/20 05:00 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Slightly unusual but I don't see anything wrong with them, I've seen mixtures of different mycelium like that before.  Those are getting close to fully colonized though.  Are you planning on just fruiting off the cakes, or casing/shoebox/monotub?




I’ve got a bunch of jars at different stages, have three at the moment that are fully colonized and consolidating. My plan is to use Mateah’s Humidity Chamber Tek which utilizes 5L tubs unmodified with overhydrated coir and 2 or even 3 cakes per tub and flipping the lid for FAE. This is my first time trying to fruit something in 10 years



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Re: Tomentose myc or contam? Pics [Re: CrashTest]
    #26818763 - 07/12/20 05:50 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Sounds like you're on the right track to put those into a tub and let them colonize/fruit ASAP.  Especially with coir, that's always been a winner for me.


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Re: Tomentose myc or contam? Pics [Re: w00tmycelium]
    #26818893 - 07/12/20 08:15 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

W00t, I'm in a similar state with my BRF cakes that I plan to add to coir in shoeboxes.

Should I let the cakes consolidate in their jars for 1 week after full colonization? Or shred into prepped coir once they're colonized in the jars, since they'll have to colonize and consolidate that substrate over again anyway?


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Re: Tomentose myc or contam? Pics [Re: the strander]
    #26818926 - 07/12/20 08:43 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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W00t, I'm in a similar state with my BRF cakes that I plan to add to coir in shoeboxes.

Should I let the cakes consolidate in their jars for 1 week after full colonization? Or shred into prepped coir once they're colonized in the jars, since they'll have to colonize and consolidate that substrate over again anyway?




I’m doing standard pf tek where I’m going to just birth the cakes into small tubs with coir as my “perlite” because of the great evaporation quality of coir but I will be fruiting them as cakes


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Re: Tomentose myc or contam? Pics [Re: CrashTest]
    #26818993 - 07/12/20 09:24 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Not a fan of cakes, but coir works a whole lot better than perlite, for sure.  Heck...  If you have coir already, why not crumble those up a make it a bulk sub for the win?  You'll get a better yield, by far.  Just my 2¢.  Also it looks like you have some kind of mold growing in there with your cube myc.  You can see where they meet in that first photo pretty well.  That said, best of luck on the grow regardless.  As for the question another member interjected: when you are doing cakes to bulk, you spawn them at 100% (no need to consolidate).


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Re: Tomentose myc or contam? Pics [Re: alaskappalachian]
    #26818999 - 07/12/20 09:27 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks! That makes sense that you don't need to consolidate the jars if spawning to bulk.


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Re: Tomentose myc or contam? Pics [Re: alaskappalachian]
    #26819028 - 07/12/20 09:42 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Not a fan of cakes, but coir works a whole lot better than perlite, for sure.  Heck...  If you have coir already, why not crumble those up a make it a bulk sub for the win?  You'll get a better yield, by far.  Just my 2¢.  Also it looks like you have some kind of mold growing in there with your cube myc.  You can see where they meet in that first photo pretty well.  That said, best of luck on the grow regardless.  As for the question another member interjected: when you are doing cakes to bulk, you spawn them at 100% (no need to consolidate).





That’s what I thought too, I have 4 jars that are partially colonized but bacterial, is it possible to mix them with coir and put them outside ? Would I be able to dry and eat fruits from that ?


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Re: Tomentose myc or contam? Pics [Re: CrashTest]
    #26819051 - 07/12/20 09:56 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Looks totally fine.


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    #26819055 - 07/12/20 09:57 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Just make up a shoebox (4 cakes=1qt of spawn=perfect) if you have 4 bacterial cakes (assuming by bacterial you are assuming this correctly and that they finish colonizing completely).  Hydrate some coir to field capacity and mix cakes to coir 1:2 (plenty of simple teks that have photos) and keep an eye on it but you can just segregate it anywhere indoors.  Best dollar you'll spend is on a sterilite shoebox.  Keeps projects separate and what I recommend people do with cakes in the first place given that so many people inoculate cakes with spores, which are inherently contaminated to some degree or another.


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Re: Tomentose myc or contam? Pics [Re: alaskappalachian]
    #26819064 - 07/12/20 10:01 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Just in case you haven't seen it, using a water HC also works well and you don't have to use a whole gang of coir that could be used as sub later on.


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Re: Tomentose myc or contam? Pics [Re: alaskappalachian]
    #26819074 - 07/12/20 10:05 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Just make up a shoebox (4 cakes=1qt of spawn=perfect) if you have 4 bacterial cakes (assuming by bacterial you are assuming this correctly and that they finish colonizing completely).  Hydrate some coir to field capacity and mix cakes to coir 1:2 (plenty of simple teks that have photos) and keep an eye on it but you can just segregate it anywhere indoors.  Best dollar you'll spend is on a sterilite shoebox.  Keeps projects separate and what I recommend people do with cakes in the first place given that so many people inoculate cakes with spores, which are inherently contaminated to some degree or another.




It could take weeks for them to fully colonize, should I wait until then? Also all four of those are colonizing at different speeds. I have an inconspicuous garden, if I mixed with coir and put them in a pot outside by my garden, would the fruits be safe to eat ? Perfectly fine with taking a loss on this one because it seems I have at least 5 additional jars that are near full colonization with no signs of contam


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Re: Tomentose myc or contam? Pics [Re: CrashTest]
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Re: Tomentose myc or contam? Pics [Re: CrashTest]
    #26819086 - 07/12/20 10:11 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Here is the jar in question as of today, and I’m not liking how the two different myc are meeting up. Not too sure though



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Re: Tomentose myc or contam? Pics [Re: CrashTest]
    #26819090 - 07/12/20 10:14 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Do you have smaller containers/shoeboxes to isolate them and let them recolonize/fruit separately that way?  If they really look that different it might be worth seeing what happens.  I usually go that route if I don't see enough uniformity for monotubs.


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    #26819104 - 07/12/20 10:18 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Coir is cheap af.  Takes a tiny amount to make a shoebox.  Not impressed by the water HC, honestly.  I've seen a couple decent grows with them, but they aren't what I'd do with a batch of iffy cakes, personally. 
And yes only use when fully colonized. Just wait and see if those jars finish.
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Looks totally fine.




It's not.


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    #26819110 - 07/12/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

And yes you can eat fruits off contaminated cakes as long as there's nothing growing on the mushrooms themselves.  No harm there.  Anything super questionable you can boil in a tea.


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Re: Tomentose myc or contam? Pics [Re: w00tmycelium]
    #26819111 - 07/12/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah I don’t want to contaminate any of my good cakes as I’m doing everything out of one closet. I have six 5L tubs with latch tops like this



Which I plan to fruit 2-3 cakes in each. Everything is contained to one closet though so I would prefer not to fruit bacterial/moldy cakes in this room. I don’t even want to open the jars inside lol.


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Re: Tomentose myc or contam? Pics [Re: alaskappalachian]
    #26819113 - 07/12/20 10:24 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Word appreciate that info.

This is my first attempt with BRF cakes. My only goal really is to collect spore prints, so I can move to agar. I’m utilizing Mateah’s HC tek for BRF cakes. But I have a bunch of MSS which are basically a shot in the dark as to if it will contam


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