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just thought id share this😃
#26819012 - 07/12/20 09:31 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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was just reading thru some news and saw this and thought id share it with the community is all.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/psychedelic-mushrooms-could-pit-d-c-against-congress-11594479600
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Re: just thought id share this😃 [Re: jcm4620] 1
#26819053 - 07/12/20 09:56 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks man. This is all up in my area. I can't wait for psychedelics to be legal and accepted all over the world. It is so insane that we've caught this disease from a few pieces of shit throughout the early 20th cen.
No culture has ever lived drug free, nor should we. Now we've got fucking dudes dressed in black kicking down doors and the general public watches people thrown in cages and thinks its normal. Our neighbors in Mexico have been overtaken by narcos because of the 'drug war'
It's the only war where we could just stop fighting without any worry about our enemy taking advantage. We just stop...and watch the world change for the better.
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I absolutely agree Roger! 110% libertarian here. No victim no crime.
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well shit like this is how it can start there really needs to be someone in every major city in every state collecting signatures and trying to get this shit on the ballot everywhere
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Re: just thought id share this😃 [Re: jcm4620]
#26819083 - 07/12/20 10:10 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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no victim no crime lol isnt that a bob marley song 😂😂😂
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Re: just thought id share this😃 [Re: jcm4620]
#26819088 - 07/12/20 10:13 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Unfortunately there's still alot of fear out there carrying over with the boomers. Look how long it took to normalize cannabis. I really hope that acts as a stepping stone for us. Nixon really did a number on our freedoms.
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Re: just thought id share this😃 [Re: Doyledozo]
#26819093 - 07/12/20 10:15 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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You're thinking of "no woman, no cry" lmao
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Re: just thought id share this😃 [Re: Doyledozo]
#26819112 - 07/12/20 10:21 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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And Harry Anslinger. A fucking piece of shit from top to bottom, a true storybook villain that was in office in the US for 62 years or something like that. He also got other countries to 'start the war' by threatening to withhold money/aid whatever.
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Any time they declare "war" on an object or idea it's really just a justification for oppression and control of the general public. Just look at the Patriot act.
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This might be better in the news forum. However I will leave this post here as it will need to be formatted for that forum (need to paste the copy of the article into the post).
Odd thing about the whole drug war was that the harder governments and police tried to fight it, the more drugs increased in value. The harder they fought, the stronger the “enemy” became. IMO it was never about winning the war, it was about seeing who in society is compliant.
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Re: just thought id share this😃 *DELETED* [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26819125 - 07/12/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Post deleted by Doyledozo
Reason for deletion: Off topic. I shouldn't have gone there.
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Re: just thought id share this😃 [Re: Doyledozo]
#26819239 - 07/12/20 11:35 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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oh sorry pasty i never really intended it to become a thread for conversation lol i just saw the article n thought some of my fellow mushculters would enjoy seein another city goin for decrim was all feel free to close it anytime
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Re: just thought id share this😃 [Re: Doyledozo] 1
#26819521 - 07/12/20 02:09 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doyledozo said: Sounds alot like what's going on right now with mandated masks and whatnot. I'm having a very hard time believing alot of what's going on. Just my opinion.
Oh god..........................
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Re: just thought id share this😃 [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26819543 - 07/12/20 02:17 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: This might be better in the news forum. However I will leave this post here as it will need to be formatted for that forum (need to paste the copy of the article into the post).
Odd thing about the whole drug war was that the harder governments and police tried to fight it, the more drugs increased in value. The harder they fought, the stronger the “enemy” became. IMO it was never about winning the war, it was about seeing who in society is compliant.
This a million times over. It is also a catch all excuse to throw anyone in jail who is politically "inconvenient".
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Re: just thought id share this😃 [Re: TheDoobsker]
#26819550 - 07/12/20 02:20 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doyledozo said: Sounds alot like what's going on right now with mandated masks and whatnot. I'm having a very hard time believing alot of what's going on. Just my opinion.
Actually, I apologize, that was kinda rude of me which I don't intend.
But it confuses to me to hear people having disbelief about mask mandates. Do you not believe that everybody wearing a mask will slow the spread of a virus? Because that's kind of a no brainer. Do you not believe the virus is even real? Because I know multiple people who have gotten it and can confirm that it's real. Do you believe the tests are fake? These are regular people doing PCR in labs that looks for the viral DNA.
It seems as though no matter what goes on in the world, people will claim it's all fake and a plot by the government to control all of us. Do I trust the government? Hell no. But this is a real problem that the whole world is dealing with, and the longer people have disbelief and refuse to do something as simple as wearing a mask, the longer our world will be like this.
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#26819563 - 07/12/20 02:27 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Of course it's real. I believe it's being blown out of proportion for media scare tactics and locally they just mandated masks even in cars with more than 1 person even though we've seen no major spread here. I have a general distrust of media and their sensationalism. I should have been a little more clear on that. Im pretty much done watching the news and getting worked up over politics and hype.
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Re: just thought id share this😃 [Re: Doyledozo]
#26819594 - 07/12/20 02:36 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doyledozo said: Of course it's real. I believe it's being blown out of proportion for media scare tactics and locally they just mandated masks even in cars with more than 1 person even though we've seen no major spread here. I have a general distrust of media and their sensationalism. I should have been a little more clear on that. Im pretty much done watching the news and getting worked up over politics and hype.
Obviously they're blowing it out of proportion... You can't trust any entity that wants something from you and has no regard for you personally. Look with your own eyes, stop listening to whatever shit is being shoveled to the masses and tell me what you see.
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Re: just thought id share this😃 [Re: TheDoobsker]
#26819603 - 07/12/20 02:38 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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TheDoobsker said:
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Doyledozo said: Sounds alot like what's going on right now with mandated masks and whatnot. I'm having a very hard time believing alot of what's going on. Just my opinion.
Actually, I apologize, that was kinda rude of me which I don't intend.
But it confuses to me to hear people having disbelief about mask mandates. Do you not believe that everybody wearing a mask will slow the spread of a virus? Because that's kind of a no brainer. Do you not believe the virus is even real? Because I know multiple people who have gotten it and can confirm that it's real. Do you believe the tests are fake? These are regular people doing PCR in labs that looks for the viral DNA.
It seems as though no matter what goes on in the world, people will claim it's all fake and a plot by the government to control all of us. Do I trust the government? Hell no. But this is a real problem that the whole world is dealing with, and the longer people have disbelief and refuse to do something as simple as wearing a mask, the longer our world will be like this.
I don't want to be told what to do by government officials. I am personally totally against the masks, mainly because it slows down the HERD IMMUNITY bullshit that was being pushed in February, well this is what herd immunity looks like. Young people getting sick and very few people dying, I tested positive for covid, and I recall no symptoms of sickness at all, and it was that way for the 75 out of 95 people who tested positive at my work. I call power grab by government, because you will never be allotted your freedoms back once you forfeited them. Sorry for the rant but this really irritates me all the people who willingly let the government destroy their lives and livelihoods on grounds of safety. Last time I checked my safety was my decision, if I want to be unsafe I should have the right to that decision.
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Re: just thought id share this😃 [Re: MH5109]
#26819613 - 07/12/20 02:42 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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thinkn its time to pull the plug pasty cuz im fixn to get banned lol
Edited by jcm4620 (07/12/20 02:42 PM)
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Re: just thought id share this😃 [Re: jcm4620]
#26819687 - 07/12/20 03:11 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sorry JCM...didn't mean to veer this off track.
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Re: just thought id share this😃 [Re: MH5109]
#26820127 - 07/12/20 08:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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MH5109 said: this is what herd immunity looks like.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53315983
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Re: just thought id share this😃 [Re: Phrontist]
#26820204 - 07/12/20 09:59 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Herd immunity is retarded nonsense. That would basically only be achieved once everyone is a carrier and those who couldn't handle it are all dead.
Wearing masks isn't about your personal safety, but rather EVERYONE else's. The mask doesn't protect you from exposure, but rather limits how much YOU spread germs. Stop breathing and sneezing on everything the community has to handle, and wear a fucking mask for the greater good, don't be a selfish moron. You wouldn't breathe all over your culture plates, would you?
Maybe if we can get people to care about health and wellness enough to wear masks then we could even get clean water to drink and clean air to breathe and clean food to eat...
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Re: just thought id share this😃 [Re: MH5109]
#26820229 - 07/12/20 10:17 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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MH5109 said:
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TheDoobsker said:
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Doyledozo said: Sounds alot like what's going on right now with mandated masks and whatnot. I'm having a very hard time believing alot of what's going on. Just my opinion.
Actually, I apologize, that was kinda rude of me which I don't intend.
But it confuses to me to hear people having disbelief about mask mandates. Do you not believe that everybody wearing a mask will slow the spread of a virus? Because that's kind of a no brainer. Do you not believe the virus is even real? Because I know multiple people who have gotten it and can confirm that it's real. Do you believe the tests are fake? These are regular people doing PCR in labs that looks for the viral DNA.
It seems as though no matter what goes on in the world, people will claim it's all fake and a plot by the government to control all of us. Do I trust the government? Hell no. But this is a real problem that the whole world is dealing with, and the longer people have disbelief and refuse to do something as simple as wearing a mask, the longer our world will be like this.
I don't want to be told what to do by government officials. I am personally totally against the masks, mainly because it slows down the HERD IMMUNITY bullshit that was being pushed in February, well this is what herd immunity looks like. Young people getting sick and very few people dying, I tested positive for covid, and I recall no symptoms of sickness at all, and it was that way for the 75 out of 95 people who tested positive at my work. I call power grab by government, because you will never be allotted your freedoms back once you forfeited them. Sorry for the rant but this really irritates me all the people who willingly let the government destroy their lives and livelihoods on grounds of safety. Last time I checked my safety was my decision, if I want to be unsafe I should have the right to that decision.
If you want to have unprotected sex with a willing high risk partner that enjoys unprotected sex, I am all in support for your right to be unsafe.
But if your will to be unsafe is going to cause harm to other involuntary people who wants to remain safe, which in this case could literally spell death, you are infringing other people's right to life by being a dick.
Free speech, right? Don't be a dick.
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Re: just thought id share this😃 [Re: 3some]
#26820255 - 07/12/20 10:50 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Okay guys we’re getting pretty off topic here, there is a covid thread in the pub for such discussions.
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Re: just thought id share this😃 [Re: Pastywhyte]
#26820264 - 07/12/20 10:58 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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ya pasty pull it. cuz eventually il just get myself in trouble. i wish i hadnt even shared the mushroom article. i shoulda known its end up doin this lol. i just know if it keeps goin on the way it is il end up banned lol
Edited by jcm4620 (07/12/20 11:02 PM)
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Re: just thought id share this😃 [Re: jcm4620]
#26820599 - 07/13/20 07:35 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's a cool article. I appreciated it. I should have let it stand on its own. I'll accept responsibility for my part in getting off track. I'll be curious to see how much if any public opinion changes as far as our chosen hobby is concerned.
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Re: just thought id share this😃 [Re: Doyledozo]
#26820623 - 07/13/20 08:01 AM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Doyledozo said: Sounds alot like what's going on right now with mandated masks and whatnot.
AGREE.
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Re: just thought id share this😃 [Re: MH5109]
#26825117 - 07/15/20 12:30 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dang, I'm really sorry for bringing this back when it should have never even gone to this discussion in the first place, but I can't keep myself from responding to this..
If you think it's no big deal and it's blown out of proportion to scare you, how do you explain ICU beds being filled up all across America? You can't possibly think that's a lie. Surely word would get out from doctors and nurses that there's no issues in hospitals right now, and the news is lying.
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MH5109 said: mainly because it slows down the HERD IMMUNITY bullshit that was being pushed in February, well this is what herd immunity looks like. Young people getting sick and very few people dying
Considering hospitals are at or near capacity to deal with this, the more we slow the spread right now, the smaller the total death toll will be when this is all over.
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MH5109 said: Last time I checked my safety was my decision, if I want to be unsafe I should have the right to that decision.
This isn't about your safety. It's about the safety of those that may die if they contract the virus. You could say, "well those people should just stay inside," but the more prominent the virus is in society, the more difficult it makes it for them to actually stay away from it.
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MH5109 said: this really irritates me all the people who willingly let the government destroy their lives and livelihoods on grounds of safety.
First off, wearing a mask does not in any way destroy anyone's life. It literally does nothing to affect you. If you wanna talk about breathing in particles from the mask, sure. But realize we live in a world where we're surrounded on all sides with particles that are causing us cancer. If you're referring to the shut-downs and all the financial hardship people are in from it, yeah it sucks. But maybe this is a healthy wake-up-call for everyone. It's time that we realize how much less important financial well-being is than we seem to think. Everyone needs food and shelter(<-- this one's arguable), but financial well-being is now about how up-to-date you can be on all your products and how much higher you can rise above the average person on physical possessions. We've gone far off-track of what actually matters and makes us happy.
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Doyledozo said: locally they just mandated masks even in cars with more than 1 person even though we've seen no major spread here.
I agree with you 100% on that making no sense. But realize that doesn't necessarily mean it's some powerful person that put that order in place with some sinister purpose. It very well could just be incompetence. We shouldn't be so quick to assume that every dumb decision made by higher ups is for some new world order purpose. There are many people in power that are simply incompetent.
By the way, I want to make it clear that I'm not disagreeing with any of you guys on the drug war issue. That's a whole different story.
I hope to not offend anyone. But IMO, the thought that this is all a scare tactic and we need not worry about it is a dangerous one. That's why I take the time to respond with my opinions on the matter.
Edit: Now I'm even more sorry for replying. I didn't even realize there had already been replies. After seeing that, I'd delete my post, but I don't think I can.
Edited by TheDoobsker (07/15/20 12:35 PM)
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Re: just thought id share this😃 [Re: TheDoobsker]
#26825296 - 07/15/20 01:45 PM (3 years, 6 months ago) |
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When is anyone ever really safe? Safety is a mental abstraction to distance oneself from the fact that you're going to die and the universe is forever out of your control.
What we enjoy today is a direct result of what was sacrificed on the alter of civilization yesterday.
We are the sacrifice today for what will come tomorrow.
Why fight that? It's unavoidable
Edit: I didn't realize how off topic we're getting.
This is a super interesting conversation, and I'd like to see where it goes. Is there a more relevant thread to continue this topic?
Edited by Trichodingus (07/15/20 01:47 PM)
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It’s a disease. You can’t hide from it and you shouldn’t let it control your actions. China made it a certain way and its doing what it does. Just keep on living life in the 2nd fastest lane. That’s the spot to be.
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pasty,bod,mush,cron plz pull the plug on this thing before i speak my opinion and get banned lol im dead serious
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Re: just thought id share this😃 [Re: jcm4620]
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