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Offlinefigjam
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Identification please - Tasmania, Australia * 1
    #26795462 - 06/30/20 08:03 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Hi Everyone,
First time poster and first season. Loving this community and all the resources - thank you. 

SPECIES 1
Habitat:
Growing amongst lots of leaf litter and debris at the base of a Eucalyptus.

Location: Northern Tasmania, Australia

Gills:
Brown, see picture

Stem:
5cm long, 0.5cm thick, white with bluish grey tinge, fragile, breaking and splitting easily

Cap:
2cm wide, golden brown, dry, conical, slight nipple on top.

Spore print color:
Dark purple/brown? See picture

Bruising:
See picture, slight bluish grey tinge to stem.







SPECIES 2
Habitat:
Growing amongst lots of leaf litter and debris at the base of a Eucalyptus

Location:
Northern Tasmania, Australia

Gills:
Brown, see picture

Stem:
5.5cm long, 0.5cm wide, white with bluish grey tinge, fragile, breaking and splitting easily.

Cap:
5.5cm wide, golden brown, dry, flat.

Spore print color:
Dark purple/brown? See picture

Colour that the mushroom bruises when damaged: See picture, slight bluish grey tinge to stem.








Many thanks guys!


Edited by figjam (07/01/20 04:52 AM)


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InvisibleAllium
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Re: Identification please - Tasmania, Australia [Re: figjam]
    #26795483 - 06/30/20 08:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Looks like to P. Subs. Wait for TI.


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OfflineTripliping
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Re: Identification please - Tasmania, Australia [Re: Allium]
    #26795938 - 06/30/20 11:33 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Agreed, looks like some old subs.


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Offlineblessed


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Re: Identification please - Tasmania, Australia [Re: Tripliping]
    #26796168 - 07/01/20 03:35 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Welcome figjam :thumbup:

great first post :smile:

Looks likes magic mushroom (subs) to me too (both of them), well done :highfive:, but as mentioned before, please wait for a Trusted Identifier.

The second one does look old and is probably getting close to not worth keeping.

btw, don't worry about putting the exact location where you found them (just put a general location instead).  This keeps your finds secret for you and stops the FBI/CIA from knowing where to find them also.  They can find their own damn it :wink:.


Edited by blessed (07/01/20 03:45 AM)


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OfflineBlenner
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Re: Identification please - Tasmania, Australia [Re: figjam]
    #26796200 - 07/01/20 04:15 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Nice work. A good spore print is very helpful


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Offlinefigjam
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Re: Identification please - Tasmania, Australia [Re: blessed]
    #26796250 - 07/01/20 05:04 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks guys appreciate it. Happy to wait for TI.

Blessed, thanks for the kind words and welcome, location has been edited!


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Offlineblessed


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Re: Identification please - Tasmania, Australia [Re: figjam]
    #26800758 - 07/03/20 05:57 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Hi figjam.

Sorry that no TI has confirmed your id request yet.  Hopefully someone will soon.

If no one does, we'll figure something out :thumbup:

btw, have you only found those two so far?


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OfflineOOISI
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Re: Identification please - Tasmania, Australia [Re: blessed]
    #26800766 - 07/03/20 06:03 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quite certainly bug-eaten subaeruginosa.


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Offlineblessed


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Re: Identification please - Tasmania, Australia [Re: OOISI]
    #26800781 - 07/03/20 06:11 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Hi OOISI :thumbup:

If i remember correctly, doesn't a TI have to confirm an id request before someone can/should be 100% confident about their find?

or have things changed around here?


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OfflineTripliping
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Re: Identification please - Tasmania, Australia [Re: blessed]
    #26800784 - 07/03/20 06:13 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

OOISI might as well be a TI hes all over it.


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Never hurts to get a second opinion just to be sure. Especially from a forum expert.

If you're Aussie and a beginner head over to:
End of Game
for some great info.

OOISI guide Subaeruginosa Guide


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OfflineOOISI
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Re: Identification please - Tasmania, Australia [Re: Tripliping]
    #26800948 - 07/03/20 07:45 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Lol im no TI, and it is definitely reccomended to get a TI's approval.

I never said I can replace a TIs opinion. I am experienced with subaeruginosa, and being so an extra opinion with that experience should count for something. Which is all i offered.

I also used quite in the sense of: to a certain or fairly significant extent or degree, not absolutely.


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Edited by OOISI (07/03/20 08:43 PM)


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OfflineTripliping
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Re: Identification please - Tasmania, Australia [Re: OOISI]
    #26802822 - 07/04/20 05:20 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Haha I just meant you always seem to make the right calls OOISI, especially with subs.

But of-course always wait for a TI if unsure.


--------------------
Never hurts to get a second opinion just to be sure. Especially from a forum expert.

If you're Aussie and a beginner head over to:
End of Game
for some great info.

OOISI guide Subaeruginosa Guide


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OfflineOOISI
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Re: Identification please - Tasmania, Australia [Re: Tripliping]
    #26802849 - 07/04/20 06:00 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Tripliping said:
Haha I just meant you always seem to make the right calls OOISI, especially with subs.

But of-course always wait for a TI if unsure.




Thank you Tripliping! I have made a mistake in the past and im quite cautious now, I try not to make IDs lightly. Like i said, i am quite confident with subaeruginosa.

A more detailed response (which i should have done) would go like this:

This isnt an obvious case. There isnt much in the way of bruising in these pics. But if you look at the last (6th) picture you can see where the stem was cut, both on the stem and on the cap, there is brusing which is characteristic of subs. The spore prints are purple and these dont really resemble Hypholoma. The spore prints are spot on for subs.

Morphologically they resemble subs, the colouring and texture seem to be in accordance with weathered subs. The cap of the mature specimen with the depressed centre is unusual. Its also unusual that there isnt more bluing, specifically on the younger specimen.

Therefore i would suggest to figjam, to throw the second specimen in the garden, because it is too damaged and there is mold growing on the stem. Look for signs of bluing after some time on the younger specimen, specifically where the stem was cut.

Thirdly and most importantly revisit the area where he found these specimens to look for fresh specimens, which will enable a better ID and be better fit for consumption.

It is also good that you called me out blessed, cause i was lazy and also you brought attention to the fact that the word 'quite' can be construed as definite and to a significant degree. I have only known of the latter definition and always used it as such.

Sometimes it seems that TIs will not be able to cover all threads. In some cases subaeruginosa ID's are easy also, and i think knowledgable members can give the green light when it is quite obvious. For instance, Psilosadhu has been a legend, giving many accurate sub IDs, he did make a mistake, but it was a rare occurance. Its best always to wait for multiple opinions for an ID.


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Subaeruginosa Guide

Bless the Lord, O my soul O my soul Worship His holy name.


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Offlineblessed


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Re: Identification please - Tasmania, Australia [Re: OOISI]
    #26803594 - 07/04/20 01:28 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe the Shroomery could/should make a new Trusted Identifier badge that is clearly only for subs Identification.  This would allow the Shroomery to have more TI on this site and would be helpful for Australian id request due to the fact that 90% are for Psilocybe Subaeruginosa id's.

:shrug:



To figjam

I Think it can be safely said that you have found magic mushrooms (Psilocybe subaeruginosa) aka subs :thumbup:. Congratulations.

btw, Those two won't be enough for a trip so you could either practice drying them or chuck them out like OOISI said.  The main thing is that you now know what to look.

If you have any questions about picking/drying/storage then please make a post in the Official Tasmanian Actives Thread and we'll try our best to answer those questions :thumbup:.


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Offlinefigjam
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Re: Identification please - Tasmania, Australia [Re: blessed]
    #26818753 - 07/12/20 05:35 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Hey blessed

Thanks for the positive vibes and for following up. I ditched the second specimen and dried the first one. These were solitary finds in an area that seemed to have been picked over pretty hard earlier this season. As you say, definitely feel like I have a better handle on where to look etc.
Thanks for the heads up on the Official Tasmanian Archives Thread – must have missed the 2020 one before so will duck over there now :thumbup:


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Offlinefigjam
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Re: Identification please - Tasmania, Australia [Re: OOISI]
    #26818755 - 07/12/20 05:38 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks OOISI
Really appreciate you taking the time to provide that detail. It’s gold dust especially when starting out. I have gone with your advice.


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