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Re: @koods [Re: Amanita86]
    #26812175 - 07/09/20 06:06 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Amanita86 said:
So we’re going down..:coolpost:






:thumbsup:

I did not consider holiday weekends impact on numbers.

My goalposts have not moved. I'm still kicking at single/double digit deaths in a majority of states.

And I'm not even looking at other countries.

:justfuck:


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Re: @koods [Re: budmanman]
    #26812177 - 07/09/20 06:07 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Cases have been at all time highs since june 24th, it doesn't correlate with the deaths at all. Dude we had deaths as high as 2,700 a day before with way less than that lol




Do you really think it doesn't correlate?

"Cases have been at all time highs since june 24th"

Yup, that was a new high since the previous high in Mar/Apr.  The 7 day average started rising noticeably a few days before that (June 20th).  A 15 day lag between cases and deaths would put deaths starting at about the current date.  Which tentatively, is what we're seeing.

"Dude we had deaths as high as 2,700 a day before with way less than that lol"

Agreed, and the average peak of deaths correlates with the peak of detected infections 14 days prior.  As I've said, the ratio of detected infections to deaths now should be higher (less deaths/case) due to the factors mentioned above (age, testing, treatment).

The CFR probably wont be the same as in April, it will be better, but correlation means more cases = more deaths.  Exactly how many deaths depends on a lot of factors.


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Re: @koods [Re: HamHead]
    #26812191 - 07/09/20 06:21 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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HamHead said:

My goalposts have not moved. I'm still kicking at single/double digit deaths in a majority of states.






I apologise, I didn't realise you meant triple figures in individual states.
However, this is an unreliable measure, as 1/3rd of the US population is based in 1/10th of the states.  3 figures in California is less significant than 3 figures in Arizona.


If we try to average it out, we could say 26 states have three figures, the other 24 have 0.  This would give 2600 deaths/day nationwide.

Is that a fair nationwide figure to say each state has hit triple figures?


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Re: @koods [Re: Guy1980]
    #26812746 - 07/09/20 11:56 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

666 post count.....for the entire thread 🤨


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Re: @koods [Re: Niffla] * 3
    #26812807 - 07/09/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Niffla said:
Y'all both know you're never ever going to convince the other, right?

I got a better chance of hitting the powerball than either of you do of convincing the other that you're right




if hamhead ever receives an education in healthcare he is going to be incredibly embarrased at the way he has behaved on here throughout this entire ordeal.


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Re: @koods [Re: morrowasted]
    #26812864 - 07/09/20 12:54 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Arizona now has the highest per capita rate of new infections IN THE WORLD.


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Re: @koods [Re: koods]
    #26812901 - 07/09/20 01:10 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

We were tired of being last in education so we stepped it up to get first in something for once.


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Re: @koods [Re: mndfreeze]
    #26813057 - 07/09/20 02:22 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

:fuckyeah:


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Re: @koods [Re: feevers]
    #26813072 - 07/09/20 02:26 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)



@koods

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Re: @koods [Re: koods]
    #26813197 - 07/09/20 03:45 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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morrowasted said:
if hamhead ever receives an education in healthcare he is going to be incredibly embarrased at the way he has behaved on here throughout this entire ordeal.




I'm sorry, I fail to see a correlation between my education and my behavior.

Quote:

koods said:
Arizona now has the highest per capita rate of new infections IN THE WORLD.




What's your point, koods? 99% will recover.

:teareally:


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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


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Re: @koods [Re: HamHead]
    #26813222 - 07/09/20 04:08 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm sorry, I fail to see a correlation between my education and my behavior.


I don't think anyone will find this surprising.

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What's your point, koods? 99% will recover.


You, specifically, might be more likely to die by cutting yourself on your own edginess.


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Re: @koods [Re: morrowasted]
    #26813267 - 07/09/20 04:34 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Hamhead and budmanman are fighting the fight that needs to be done.


Edited by FSHuntings (07/09/20 04:38 PM)


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Re: @koods [Re: FSHuntings] * 1
    #26816720 - 07/11/20 07:59 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)



Words of Atlanta moving backwards to phase 1.

Makes a lot of sense. Limit people to essential work, making those non essential workers feel useless.

I bet that $1,200 is doing a lot of people just fine. No worries about paying bills or feeding children.

I wonder how many children will go hungry, or worse, starve to death because their parents aren't allowed by their government to earn a living.

But we have to be careful, people might will get sick and die.

Wear your mask and continue to eat junk food and destroy your body. It'll all be ok, a vaccine will be available, sometime or another, to save you from infection.

A vaccine to prevent infection.

Even more sense being made here.

A vaccine inoculates a host with a virus.

To prevent infection.

:jolly:


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/


Edited by HamHead (07/11/20 08:01 AM)


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Re: @koods [Re: HamHead]
    #26817536 - 07/11/20 02:45 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Vaccines are either dead or weakened viruses. They simulate catching the virus. Its why I am glad I caught the virus while healthy, now I have anti bodies and when my count is low I also have TRIM21 anti bodies inside my cells. I also have memory cells in my lymphocyte system. My wife works in a nursing home and is regularly exposed to the virus, recently the lymph node that swelled in my neck while I had the virus that I never even knew I had, recently swelled for a day or 2 again. I suspect that I was exposed to the virus again and concurred its booty hole rapidly. Thanks immune system for being sucha bad ass.


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Re: @koods [Re: budmanman]
    #26817552 - 07/11/20 02:56 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Lol that’s not really how it works.

Studies have shown that asymptomatic covid infections produce a very poor immune response and detectable antibodies are lost very rapidly. You can’t get immunity by simply being exposed to a virus. You need a massive number of antigens present over a number of days to have a successful immune response that makes antibodies - either an active infection or a vaccine. Fleeting exposure to some viral particles won’t work.


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Re: @koods [Re: koods]
    #26817561 - 07/11/20 03:01 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I am a survivor of the virus. I got sick for about a week with it 3ish months ago. I am now immune.



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Re: @koods [Re: budmanman]
    #26817567 - 07/11/20 03:06 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

You’re immune for now. The more sick you got and the longer yu were sick probably determines how long your immunity lasts. Immunity to the coronaviruses that cause colds lasts a year or two.

It’s also unlikely that you would have swollen lymph nodes from a virus you are immune to.


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Re: @koods [Re: koods]
    #26817579 - 07/11/20 03:11 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

For complete resistance, it is 2-3 years but familiarity creates life long resistance. Immunity and viral resistance is even passed down to your kids. This is why diseases from Europe absolutely decimated the natives but were just common colds to Europeans.


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Re: @koods [Re: budmanman]
    #26817586 - 07/11/20 03:14 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Oh and then re exposure just re starts up your long term resistance, Natures booster shots.


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Re: @koods [Re: budmanman]
    #26817601 - 07/11/20 03:21 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Immunity and viral resistance is even passed down to your kids



Not genetically


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