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Man high on shrooms pistol whips transgender friend
    #26816922 - 07/11/20 10:01 AM (1 month, 3 days ago)

https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/police-man-high-on-shrooms-pistol-whipped-transgender-woman-who-then-wrestled-the-gun-away/


AUSTIN (KXAN) — A man is accused of hitting a transgender woman multiple times with a gun before she wrestled it away from him, hid it and called police, according to the Austin Police Department.

The victim said Jeffrey Pace, who she’d known for about four months, had called her that night and asked her if she wanted to come over. He told her he was taking “shrooms,” or psilocybin mushrooms, according to the affidavit, and although he had hired her as an escort in the past, she told police she just expected to go to his home in the 2900 block of East Third Street to hang out.

She told police as she arrived, two escorts were leaving. She also told police Pace had pulled out a gun from his dresser “to ensure that she didn’t try to steal anything,” and then told her he needed a ride to the bank to pay for one of the escorts. She took him and they returned to the home.

The victim said Pace had been “disrespectful to her and was acting strange” ever since she arrived at his home.

“[The victim] was worried that Pace may be so high that he would do something that would get her or him injured,” according to the affidavit. She told him she was leaving and went to gather her things.

That’s when she told police he accused her of stealing his gun, which was on the dresser, and grabbed it and pointed it at her. He then started hitting her with the barrel of the gun.

The victim told police she grabbed the gun and after a struggle that put her in a headlock, she was able to get it. She said Pace continued to hit her and bit her. According to the affdavit, she was able to run away.

Around 1:53 a.m. Saturday, the victim called police about the struggle and told them she was hiding in a neighbor’s backyard. She flagged them down when they arrived and showed them where she had hidden the 9mm Taurus Pistol 6. Around the same time, police received a call from Jeffrey Pace, claiming the victim had stolen his car and his gun. Police found his car in his driveway.

Police questioned Pace, who they said appeared to still be under the effects of the psilocybin mushrooms and who changed his story multiple times. One version of the events he told police was that he had pulled out a gun so the victim wouldn’t “try anything,” but then she grabbed it and his keys and ran from the house, according to the affidavit. Pace said they struggled outside and each “pistol-whipped” the other before the victim ran away. Another version said the escorts had assaulted him and stolen his gun, the affidavit said.

Pace is not listed as being in custody as of Monday. He faces an aggravated assault with a deadly weapon charge.


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Re: Man high on shrooms pistol whips transgender friend [Re: ReposadoXochipilli] * 1
    #26816929 - 07/11/20 10:04 AM (1 month, 3 days ago)

This is why we can’t have nice things..:facepalm:


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Re: Man high on shrooms pistol whips transgender friend [Re: Amanita86]
    #26816988 - 07/11/20 10:35 AM (1 month, 3 days ago)

Man, I've been pretty delusional while tripping, but never "beat my buddy up for stealing the item that's in my hand" delusional... Wonder if tweaking was involved.


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Re: Man high on shrooms pistol whips transgender friend [Re: Rapjack] * 1
    #26817308 - 07/11/20 12:55 PM (1 month, 3 days ago)

I’m going to venture a guess that if we looked further into the life of this individual it would suggest that it’s chaotic in nature and this isn’t some lone incident where his judgment lapsed due to being on psychedelic mushrooms.


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Re: Man high on shrooms pistol whips transgender friend [Re: Amanita86]
    #26817568 - 07/11/20 03:07 PM (1 month, 3 days ago)

Some people don’t deserve psilo

Can’t respect or really understand it anyway


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Re: Man high on shrooms pistol whips transgender friend [Re: Amanita86]
    #26818019 - 07/11/20 06:47 PM (1 month, 3 days ago)

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Amanita86 said:
I’m going to venture a guess that if we looked further into the life of this individual it would suggest that it’s chaotic in nature and this isn’t some lone incident where his judgment lapsed due to being on psychedelic mushrooms.




Ditto, he's probably a piece of shit all the time high or not, with a history of violence towards women, and unstable to boot. If he was really on just shrooms, probably schizoaffective judging by the paranoia. I'm sure his altered state of mind played a part here, but it isn't like this was some even keeled, mentally stable, average joe who just snapped from "shrooms". There's a reason his only "friends" are escorts.

Although I've got no evidence to support the idea, I wouldn't be surprised if he were a poly drug abuser, or even took something other than(or on top of) shrooms but told the escort that because its more disarming.

I do love how deftly the escort avoided self incrimination though. She was just going over to "hang out", as friends not as an escort, when she takes him to the bank to get money its not to pay her...its for the "other" escorts(you know, the ones who already left, apparently without payment).


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Re: Man high on shrooms pistol whips transgender friend [Re: Fractal420]
    #26818023 - 07/11/20 06:50 PM (1 month, 3 days ago)

Could be some amps or booze mixed into the equation as well. I've seen lots of people reach for the psychedelics once they start feeling good on one drug, then shit goes sideways


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Re: Man high on shrooms pistol whips transgender friend [Re: feevers] * 2
    #26818778 - 07/12/20 06:15 AM (1 month, 2 days ago)

Did the fact that the victim was transgender have anything to do with the story at all?

Or was the author unable to decide whether to make it about drugs, or hate crime?  :confused:


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Re: Man high on shrooms pistol whips transgender friend [Re: Forrester]
    #26819081 - 07/12/20 10:09 AM (1 month, 2 days ago)

Gotta hit those keywords and sell those papers..


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Re: Man high on shrooms pistol whips transgender friend [Re: Amanita86]
    #26821001 - 07/13/20 12:05 PM (1 month, 1 day ago)

Quote:

Amanita86 said:
I’m going to venture a guess that if we looked further into the life of this individual it would suggest that it’s chaotic in nature and this isn’t some lone incident where his judgment lapsed due to being on psychedelic mushrooms.





"as she arrived, two escorts were leaving..." kinda suggests unconventional ways of relating to women, doesn't it? It also indicates that there was way more going on than the written story tells.


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Re: Man high on shrooms pistol whips transgender friend [Re: sonoramo]
    #26823046 - 07/14/20 01:07 PM (1 month, 6 hours ago)

Mushrooms do make you gay.


This dood really needs a wake up call.


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Re: Man high on shrooms pistol whips transgender friend [Re: LosTresOjos]
    #26826735 - 07/16/20 10:50 AM (29 days, 8 hours ago)

I thought it was only gay if it were a transvestite, once the person is transgender and have the genitals switched is it still gay? I lost my virginity to a girl who had a sex change to become male almost a decade after we broke up, does that make me gay?


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Re: Man high on shrooms pistol whips transgender friend [Re: sk8fast]
    #26827123 - 07/16/20 02:40 PM (29 days, 4 hours ago)

Just because you think you are a woman, doesn't make you one... a man pistol whipped another man.:goodluckwiththat2:


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Re: Man high on shrooms pistol whips transgender friend [Re: sk8fast]
    #26828799 - 07/17/20 11:45 AM (28 days, 7 hours ago)

Lol I don't care what you think it makes you. Just be confident. And be cool enough to know when some says you are not, that they are full of shit.
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Re: Man high on shrooms pistol whips transgender friend [Re: PsychoReactive]
    #26829405 - 07/17/20 04:44 PM (28 days, 2 hours ago)

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PsychoReactive said:
Just because you think you are a woman, doesn't make you one... a man pistol whipped another man.:goodluckwiththat2:




:whathesaid:  :whatshesaid:


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Re: Man high on shrooms pistol whips transgender friend [Re: PsychoReactive]
    #26833545 - 07/20/20 03:06 AM (25 days, 16 hours ago)

I tend to agree with this sentiment!


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Re: Man high on shrooms pistol whips transgender friend [Re: mescalinechemist]
    #26838076 - 07/22/20 11:29 AM (23 days, 7 hours ago)

I thought transgender means you had the surgery to switch gender and if you haven't had surgery yet and just take hormones or crossdress you are a transvestite


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Re: Man high on shrooms pistol whips transgender friend [Re: sk8fast]
    #26838325 - 07/22/20 01:24 PM (23 days, 6 hours ago)

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I thought transgender means you had the surgery to switch gender and if you haven't had surgery yet and just take hormones or crossdress you are a transvestite



It's all mental illness. The worst is when they try and brainwash little children into switching genders. There will many law suits in the future. Lady boys in Thailand who switch genders barely live past 40 years old. They take their own life way too often.


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Re: Man high on shrooms pistol whips transgender friend [Re: PsychoReactive]
    #26838715 - 07/22/20 04:14 PM (23 days, 3 hours ago)

There’s a lawsuit going on now about a kid in a juvie center being given estrogen to try and curb his troublesome behavior.  He grew titties and has to have surgery.  They did this without informing the parents and said if he refused they would keep him until he was 26 or 27 as opposed to 18.

Here it is...

That’s how this brain cancer spirals out.


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Re: Man high on shrooms pistol whips transgender friend [Re: PsychoReactive]
    #26838876 - 07/22/20 05:26 PM (23 days, 2 hours ago)

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sk8fast said:
I thought transgender means you had the surgery to switch gender and if you haven't had surgery yet and just take hormones or crossdress you are a transvestite




Transvestite is a dated and offensive term for cross-dresser, and doesn't necessarily have anything to do with one's gender identity.

Transgender people identify as a gender other than what they were assigned at birth, surgery or not. Gender and sex are not one in the same.

"Transexual" would mean that one's current expression of gender identity involved medical intervention, whether hormones or surgery...it is also a contentious term that many might be offended by.

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It's all mental illness. The worst is when they try and brainwash little children into switching genders. There will many law suits in the future. Lady boys in Thailand who switch genders barely live past 40 years old. They take their own life way too often.




Nearly all medical and mental health professionals would disagree. And I don't even want to know who you think "they" are here.

While the experiences of ladyboys in Thailand are hardly applicable to transgender people in North America, any rate of suicide motivated by depression and sadness is "too often". And its more probable that the high rate of suicide among transgender individuals has more to do with societal stigmas and bigoted individuals like you than anything innate to ones transgender identity.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5178031/

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Rejection and lack of support from the families and society, gender dysphoria associated with extreme stressful experiences, child sexual abuse, early discontinuation of schooling, forced marriages, lack of livelihood opportunities, sexual and financial exploitation by the partner and police and rowdies, and lack of legal measures for protection are some of the characteristics of transgender persons.

About 62% of the transgender respondents are either have problems with their family members, or they do not have any contact with their family members hence, they are living away from their families; they left their families because of ill-treatment, being not accepted as transgender persons and being felt embarrassed to live in the community[emphasis added]; 56% of them have discontinued their education at either primary level or secondary level; majority of the transgender persons have opt sex industry and begging for their survival



from, Suicide and Suicidal Behavior among Transgender Persons


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