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Re: Joe Biden Smelling Little Girls Compilation [Re: Vahn421]
    #26824186 - 07/15/20 12:06 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

There’s nothing exculpatory about that. Some people like to make sure they’re controlling a situation where their name has come up. Of course someone wouldn’t tell the lawyer for victims of sexual assault that they were “involved in anything untoward.” I would question how someone who wasn’t involved could be very helpful with information, though.

Can you show us the data that child traffickers are being arrested in record numbers?

Based on these annual DOJ human trafficking reports, there were significantly more prosecutions in Obama’s last year (2016) than 2018, which was the last report available. Where’s the 2019 report? Also the reports under the trump administration are pretty flimsy compared to the Obama reports 🤷‍♂️

https://www.justice.gov/humantrafficking/attorney-generals-trafficking-persons-report


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Re: Joe Biden Smelling Little Girls Compilation [Re: koods]
    #26824747 - 07/15/20 09:34 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Can you show us the data that child traffickers are being arrested in record numbers?




Sure. I'm going to have to do some digging first though it was like 3 months ago. I got the link from a friend of mine who has more access to numbers than I do. I should have bookmarked it. Give me a bit.


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Re: Joe Biden Smelling Little Girls Compilation [Re: Vahn421]
    #26824782 - 07/15/20 09:45 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I already provided a link


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Re: Joe Biden Smelling Little Girls Compilation [Re: koods]
    #26824843 - 07/15/20 10:18 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MAnZZoD7y5Ydwx2rSrZualrZTNUYDY7gozTXkT0YUOs/htmlview#

This is the list I was looking for. There have been over 13,000 traffickers arrested since 2017. Almost all of them have a link to a news article or a source. (There are multiple tabs at the top. You have to click the second one.)

the DOJ is just one aspect of this. Trump has his fingers in many, many pies.

The File Drawer is a great place to spend some time for those that want some actual, documented numbers and not bias from any media side. Everything has links and sources.


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Re: Joe Biden Smelling Little Girls Compilation [Re: Vahn421]
    #26824852 - 07/15/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Joe Biden Smelling Little Girls Compilation [Re: Vahn421] * 1
    #26824876 - 07/15/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

So, it seems that sex trafficking has increased under Trump. Another reason we don't want him to continue being president.


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Re: Joe Biden Smelling Little Girls Compilation [Re: Enlil] * 2
    #26824906 - 07/15/20 10:47 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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So, it seems that sex trafficking has increased under Trump.




That's a baseless statement.


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Re: Joe Biden Smelling Little Girls Compilation [Re: Vahn421] * 1
    #26824917 - 07/15/20 10:55 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Your graph clearly indicates that. Unless you're saying that these arrests were unfounded.


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Re: Joe Biden Smelling Little Girls Compilation [Re: Vahn421] * 1
    #26824920 - 07/15/20 10:57 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Something else to consider.

The File Drawer is kept and compiled by a man named Corey Digs. The man has full archives on not only every child trafficking arrest since 2017, but ALL of Hillary Clinton's Emails, as well as Jeffery Epstein's little black book as well as his flight logs. It also has all documentation on operation paperclip, project mockingbird, the MK Ultra project and so, SO much more.


Things brings up a big question for a sane, rational mind: Why is someone who has so thoroughly seen, researched, documented and compiled so much useful and verifiable information a Qanon supporter? :shrug:

And this brings up a bone I have to pick with he-who-locked-the-other-thread.

Conspiracy THEORIES are just that. THEORIES. If I say "There are millions of Q supporters in the country." or, "General Flynn took the oath." These are not THEORIES, they are FACTS.

I completely understand discussing speculation in the other forum, but these things are not speculation, and we should consider their implications.


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Re: Joe Biden Smelling Little Girls Compilation [Re: Enlil]
    #26824921 - 07/15/20 10:59 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Your graph clearly indicates that. Unless you're saying that these arrests were unfounded.




It does no such thing. I have no idea how you or anyone could think Trump was elected and all of a sudden more people decided, "hey, I'm gonna start diddling little boys."

The actual fact-of-the-matter is more and more people who were successfully hiding simply got caught, because Trump is doing a fucking outstanding job.


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Re: Joe Biden Smelling Little Girls Compilation [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #26824929 - 07/15/20 11:03 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Your graph clearly indicates that. Unless you're saying that these arrests were unfounded.



It doesn't clearly indicate that though.

You could be right that sex trafficking arrests have gone up due to a sex trafficking increase, but Vahn could be right that it's due to stronger enforcement.

I don't recall seeing an argument for either case.


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Re: Joe Biden Smelling Little Girls Compilation [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26824930 - 07/15/20 11:04 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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You could be right that sex trafficking arrests have gone up due to a sex trafficking increase, but Vahn could be right that it's due to stronger enforcement.




Yeah, in this case it's a matter of common sense. The vast majority of people arrested have been doing this for years and years. (All you have to do is look at the data. EVERYTHING is complied and archived to leave no room for baseless speculation.) People don't just randomly pick up the hobby of pedophilia somewhere in their 30's and go "Hey, Trump is in office! Now I can live my lifelong dream of touching little boys!" :rolleyes:


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Re: Joe Biden Smelling Little Girls Compilation [Re: Vahn421]
    #26824948 - 07/15/20 11:17 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

No one is claiming why , just that it has gone up under Trump . That’s what your graph shows .

  Probably not due to enforcement being up .

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Prosecution of Child-Sex Traffickers Plummeted Under Trump




https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.courthousenews.com/prosecution-of-kiddie-traffickers-plummeted-under-trump/


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Re: Joe Biden Smelling Little Girls Compilation [Re: Psilynut2]
    #26824958 - 07/15/20 11:22 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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No one is claiming why , just that it has gone up under Trump . That’s what your graph shows .




There is NO graph that indicates the number of child traffickers has increased under the Trump administration.

I already said this. It's literally common sense. Pedophiles aren't seeds you plant into the ground that bloom in two years.

If just one of you would actually peruse the archives, you'd see most of these people have been doing this a long, long time.

The truth is, and it bears repeating, Trump is doing a fucking fantastic job cracking down on child traffickers that have been hiding a long time. You think PEDO JOE who sniffs little girls is going to give a fuck? OPEN YOUR EYES!

But I'm happy, honestly. To even attempt a cop out as pathetic as "Well, there must be more pedos in our country now" is to inadvertently admit Trump's administration have arrested far, far more of them than anyone else has and that fact can't be contested, so I've won that battle.

And the NEW battle I'm now being presented with? This idea that MORE PEDOS cropped up thanks to Trump being in office, is so ridiculously absurd, even without looking at the data that would disprove it, that It's not even worth my time now.


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Re: Joe Biden Smelling Little Girls Compilation [Re: Vahn421] * 1
    #26824962 - 07/15/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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The truth is, and it bears repeating, Trump is doing a fucking fantastic job cracking down in child traffickers that have been hiding a long time.




No that’s not true As I pointed out .

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.courthousenews.com/prosecution-of-kiddie-traffickers-plummeted-under-trump/


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Re: Joe Biden Smelling Little Girls Compilation [Re: Vahn421]
    #26824965 - 07/15/20 11:25 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Those are arrests, not prosecutions.

We know hate crimes rose drastically when Trump was elected. Perhaps a similar phenomena is occurring with sex trafficking?


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Re: Joe Biden Smelling Little Girls Compilation [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
    #26824969 - 07/15/20 11:27 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I missed your link. There’s more trafficking and less of them are going to jail. Trump is doing just great.


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Re: Joe Biden Smelling Little Girls Compilation [Re: christopera]
    #26824970 - 07/15/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Those are arrests, not prosecutions.




Yeah, in big red letters on the first page of the link to the archive (which no one seems to want to actually check out) it says the following:

"40,000 ft view- In putting this list together, it's important to note that MANY cases have been sitting for years without sentencing. Not only are the longstanding cases being processed, but there is also a considerable increase in the number of arrests that have taken place since @POTUS @realDonaldTrump took office. Additionally the time frame from arrest to sentencing has been expedited significantly."

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We know hate crimes rose drastically when Trump was elected. Perhaps a similar phenomena is occurring with sex trafficking?




No.


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Re: Joe Biden Smelling Little Girls Compilation [Re: Vahn421]
    #26824978 - 07/15/20 11:33 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Things brings up a big question for a sane, rational mind: Why is someone who has so thoroughly seen, researched, documented and compiled so much useful and verifiable information a Qanon supporter? :shrug:




Why would they be mutually exclusive?  Smart people do and think stupid things all the time. 

For purposes of this forum, Qanon is clearly a conspiracy theory, as are Jeffrey Epstein murder theories and Bill Gates vaccine theories.  Now you know.


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Re: Joe Biden Smelling Little Girls Compilation [Re: Enlil]
    #26825000 - 07/15/20 11:41 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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For purposes of this forum, Qanon is clearly a conspiracy theory,




I'm not going to just sit here and allow "theories" to be conflated with verifiable facts. Facts are NOT conspiracies. You can't lump everything into one category.

Fact: Hillary Clinton had thousands of emails she deleted.
Theory: The emails discussed pedophilia

See the difference?

Fact: There are millions of bright, intelligent and thoroughly skeptical Qanon supporters including Cory Digs and General Flynn.
Theory: Qanon is in the Trump administration.

See the difference?


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