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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: koods]
    #26815097 - 07/10/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Your organization cannot say on one hand that Trump rallies helped spread covid and then on the other say protesters (MILLIONS who have not worn masks) do not.



Omg what do you not understand? Outdoors and indoors are not the same thing at all. Protesting outside is low risk.




Basic math simply based on the exponentially larger number of protesters relative to how many people have gathered at live Trump rallies woulds still disagree with you.

Advanced math would point out that a Trump rally is still in a huge dome and that it is either just as good as an outdoor rally or still exponentially better than a small building, like a restaurant, would be.


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Vahn421]
    #26815107 - 07/10/20 12:48 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I would have argued ten years ago that the media's bias wasn't a left/right issue, but in 2020 their bias for the left is so transparent. (Aside from Fox, who sadly reports more accurately now than the rest. I never fuckin' though I'd see that day in my life... but here we are. I used to hate Fox...)




I’d say you’ve chosen a product you agree with and are here to tell us about it.




And I say just watch where the political left takes the party in the next 10 years. You can start by watching Seattle now that they're about to cut the police budget by 50%



Those darn liberals and their spending cuts. 🤦‍♂️


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: koods]
    #26815113 - 07/10/20 12:48 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I would have argued ten years ago that the media's bias wasn't a left/right issue, but in 2020 their bias for the left is so transparent. (Aside from Fox, who sadly reports more accurately now than the rest. I never fuckin' though I'd see that day in my life... but here we are. I used to hate Fox...)




I’d say you’ve chosen a product you agree with and are here to tell us about it.




And I say just watch where the political left takes the party in the next 10 years. You can start by watching Seattle now that they're about to cut the police budget by 50%



Those darn liberals and their spending cuts. 🤦‍♂️




I am so reviving this thread after Seattle gets trashed to pieces.


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Vahn421] * 1
    #26815115 - 07/10/20 12:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Seattle has been a shithole for decades.


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Enlil]
    #26815141 - 07/10/20 01:02 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Seattle has been a shithole for decades.




Give a little while longer. The future is going to make its current state appear like a paradise.


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Vahn421] * 1
    #26815153 - 07/10/20 01:08 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Lol, that could be said of virtually every first world nation on this planet.


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Enlil]
    #26815181 - 07/10/20 01:20 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I have this feeling leftists will blame anyone but themselves when crime skyrockets in the city and businesses decide to move elsewhere.


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Vahn421]
    #26815195 - 07/10/20 01:23 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

For all my American amigos, wait until unemployment comes to an end (which should be soon). Everyone's going to start losing their minds.


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Vahn421]
    #26815204 - 07/10/20 01:26 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Lmao! “It’s not 51% it’s clearly 50%.”




You really have to distract from the topic at hand to even have a chance of knocking me over, don't you?




You mean like whining about protestors wearing masks to distract from police brutality?


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Vahn421] * 1
    #26815208 - 07/10/20 01:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Your organization cannot say on one hand that Trump rallies helped spread covid and then on the other say protesters (MILLIONS who have not worn masks) do not.

It is not only intellectually dishonest but shows a major lack of integrity.

There is a process for submitting articles that involves a review of said articles before they are posted. (Most of the time.)

I MIGHT be able to write it off as human error if EVERY MAJOR MEDIA OUTLET wasn't doing the same thing.



Peer reviewed articles like this? Black Lives Matter Protests, Social Distancing, and COVID-19

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This study uses newly collected data on protests in 315 of the largest U.S. cities to estimate the impacts of mass protests on social distancing and COVID-19 case growth. [...] [W]e find no evidence that urban protests reignited COVID-19 case growth during the more than three weeks following protest onset. We conclude that predictions of broad negative public health consequences of Black Lives Matter protests were far too narrowly conceived.





A simple look at a map of the national covid-19 case increases shows no correlation with the recent protests. DC and New York are down - Idaho and Florida are up. There's a much greater correlation between States reopening and an increase in covid cases.





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Seattle is now destined to be the next Detroit.



I'm confused - Detroit has police but you're using the city as a caution towards the dangers of police abolition. It rather seems you've just made an argument against the effectiveness of police.


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Vahn421]
    #26815213 - 07/10/20 01:29 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Where are they gonna move? The red state economic backwaters?


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: koods]
    #26815291 - 07/10/20 02:03 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Detroit is Detroit for many other factors.

Go ahead and cut the police budget by 50% there, too. See what happens.


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Vahn421]
    #26815313 - 07/10/20 02:13 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Detroit is Detroit for many other factors.

Go ahead and cut the police budget by 50% there, too. See what happens.




They'd be left with cops that joined the force for something they believed in.


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Mr.Christmas]
    #26815314 - 07/10/20 02:14 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

...and cops performing only those functions that require a man with a gun to show up.


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Mr.Christmas]
    #26815320 - 07/10/20 02:18 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Detroit is Detroit for many other factors.

Go ahead and cut the police budget by 50% there, too. See what happens.




They'd be left with cops that joined the force for something they believed in.




lol


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Mr.Christmas]
    #26815691 - 07/10/20 05:42 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Detroit is Detroit for many other factors.

Go ahead and cut the police budget by 50% there, too. See what happens.




They'd be left with cops that joined the force for something they believed in.




What actually happens in the real world outside of this hyperbolic fantasy land is that morale for police stations deceases and a lot of experienced members retire.

I wouldn't be surprised if the other half of Seattle's Police department all quit due to how bad they are being treated by their own civilians they've been sword to protect.

End the drug war, but we need cops for pretty much everything else.

Poor people suffer the most when you take the cops away, you know.


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Vahn421]
    #26815697 - 07/10/20 05:45 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Police are scum anyway. Drain the swamp and get humans to replace them.


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Vahn421]
    #26815705 - 07/10/20 05:49 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Police have no legal obligation to protect citizens.

And why the hell would they? If police get involved in violent crimes, they might become victims as well. Better to be judged by 12 than carried by six, gotta survive the shift, all that.

If I was a cop, I wouldn't stop a dude from stabbing someone else. I'd just empty all my magazines in their general direction until everything went away and I could go on paid leave.


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Vahn421] * 1
    #26815800 - 07/10/20 06:42 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Lmao! “It’s not 51% it’s clearly 50%.”




You really have to distract from the topic at hand to even have a chance of knocking me over, don't you?




Dude, a hamster could knock you over.


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Kryptos]
    #26815820 - 07/10/20 06:51 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Police have no legal obligation to protect citizens.

And why the hell would they? If police get involved in violent crimes, they might become victims as well. Better to be judged by 12 than carried by six, gotta survive the shift, all that.

If I was a cop, I wouldn't stop a dude from stabbing someone else. I'd just empty all my magazines in their general direction until everything went away and I could go on paid leave.




Cops won't get fired if they don't jump in front of someone to take a bullet for them?

No shit.


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