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The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts.
    #26815803 - 07/10/20 06:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Any sports fan has heard of the "racist" name of the Washington Redskins and the controversy of the name change over the last few years. It seems like ever since the movement against racism over George Flloyd in the US (and around the world really) the US in particular has taken a huge leap in becoming casual and universal. Anything that sounds racist, becomes racist by peoples ignorance. It seems like the teams name is automatically offensive by putting 2 words together, Red and Skin. I say get fucked.

The Redskins have been been protested against by the 10% of people that are offended by the name for years. :rolleyes: Its like PITA got there hands on this issue because identification of a race and a simple tan colored emblem to represent a sports team. Its taken way too far across the spectrum in my opinion.

Its hard to be accepting of it since it by no means is meant to be demeaning. I went to the store the other day and saw the LandOLakes Butter emblem change. As you may know it was a native american girl holding a butter packet at her chest area. Well Im pissed about this extremism. My manliness can no longer cut out her knees and replace them in the butter stick area that she is holding. Get what Im saying? In my mind thats what she should be doing in the first place? Whoa, imprison me for 25 years for saying this? I mean Aunt Jemima was an icon, but its racist now ONLY because she was a black woman. I feel like I cant even call a chalkboard black now without getting lashed.

I just dont see why everything has to be so extreme to please all over for such simple ideas. To get back on topic I think the name change is meaningless and more hurtful than helpful. It destroys a legacy. No matter how bad they currently are, the franchise has been around for decades and is beloved by true fans of the team. Its sad to see them go and I think I will revert to being a more casual fan of the sport rather than rooting for a certain team.

We are not accepting of race, but rather identify it as a hurtful problem whenever it comes up.

The Washington Red Tails here we come 202...something.. Still 4-12 for the forseeable future no matter what the name is. Thats the worst part! Ugh!!


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: Cosmic Eye]
    #26815817 - 07/10/20 06:49 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Hey it helps if you kill off most of the people that might be mad :cookiemonster:

Redskin has always been a slur. The only reason it wasn't taken that way is because the people who that derogatory term addresses had no voice and had bigger concerns.


I think the mascots thing is weird and empty corporate gestures no one asked for... but no one ever complained about the name Chiefs.


Sooo... There you go. There's the line.


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26815819 - 07/10/20 06:51 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Idk

But where did the word "redskin" come from? Many dictionaries and history books say the term came about in reference to the Beothuk tribe of what is now Newfoundland, Canada. The Beothuk were said to paint their bodies with red ochre, leading white settlers to refer to them as "red men."Sep 9, 2013


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26815822 - 07/10/20 06:52 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I'm way ahead of you op.....I shit you not I bought like 5 bottles of Aunt jamima syrup cos you know they are gonna be worth lots to die hard fans just like nestea :awehigh:


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: budmanman]
    #26815829 - 07/10/20 06:57 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Same place yellow came from to describe Asian folk.


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: Cosmic Eye]
    #26815830 - 07/10/20 06:58 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah! The stop signs are red, that's racist against Native Americans!

And if you want to take this further, there are HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS Of road names that could be deemed "racist"

so let's go ahead and change all the road names and cities and towns too.


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: Fiery]
    #26815833 - 07/10/20 07:02 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

There's alot of derogatory names out there yeah.

I'm fine if they want to keep the name but I think they should be compensating native americans for it.

It'd be like if Syria had a sports team called the fat Americans. After they won the war on terror.


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: Fiery]
    #26815834 - 07/10/20 07:03 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Jackson St is racist andrew Jackson owned slaves.


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: budmanman]
    #26815841 - 07/10/20 07:05 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I mean Andrew Jackson was just generally not a good dude.


I do take issue about them taking a statue of the original owner down. What a stupid gesture. "He said racist things." So did literally everyone before the civil rights movement.


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: budmanman]
    #26815854 - 07/10/20 07:13 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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Jackson St is racist andrew Jackson owned slaves.





They'd have to rename thousands of roads in every major city


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26815855 - 07/10/20 07:14 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

CookieCrumbs said:


I do take issue about them taking a statue of the original owner down. What a stupid gesture. "He said racist things." So did literally everyone before the civil rights movement.





And so did the minorities( say racist things) against the majority.

It's a double standard.


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: Fiery]
    #26815857 - 07/10/20 07:14 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

It must be done black lives matter and they matter more than street names. Indont care if it cost 1 trillion dollars.


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: budmanman]
    #26815878 - 07/10/20 07:27 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Fuck street names. Fuck everything. Let's make everything clear and no labels because labels are racist now eating is fun because we have to guess what the ingredients are.........


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: budmanman]
    #26815884 - 07/10/20 07:29 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I just feel like choosing a name for an organization like

BLack Lives Matter" was an unsmart choice.


But once it got steam there was no going back.

It makes the organization look selfish, and ignorant to the fact that "black lives" aren't the only ones being threatened, biased against, or killed needlessly.


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: spirit_shadow]
    #26815886 - 07/10/20 07:30 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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now eating is fun because we have to guess what the ingredients are.........




That was :lol:


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: Fiery]
    #26815900 - 07/10/20 07:36 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I really hope this stuff doesn’t lead to more censorship of language & speech...dangerous path!  Don’t go down that path rit chea - ya hear?
Following this trend’s strange logic...the word redneck should be getting banned/socially punished for those who use it - that’s next, right?
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26815935 - 07/10/20 07:53 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Like I said, double standard.


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: Fiery]
    #26815956 - 07/10/20 07:59 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

What about the Hispanics / messycans!?! :crankey:

I demand justice :penisisevil:

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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26815959 - 07/10/20 08:00 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Missycan gets pissed everytime i bring up the Alamo:smilingpuppy:


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: Texas Honey Badger]
    #26815961 - 07/10/20 08:01 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Fiery said:
I just feel like choosing a name for an organization like

BLack Lives Matter" was an unsmart choice.


But once it got steam there was no going back.

It makes the organization look selfish, and ignorant to the fact that "black lives" aren't the only ones being threatened, biased against, or killed needlessly.




:thatsinteresting:

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Missycan gets pissed everytime i bring up the Alamo:smilingpuppy:




:lol:


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: Texas Honey Badger]
    #26815964 - 07/10/20 08:03 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Missycan gets pissed everytime i bring up the Alamo:smilingpuppy:




Every gringo has his day :kingcrankey:


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26815972 - 07/10/20 08:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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Every gringo has his day :kingcrankey:




Hey. You can't use that word around these parts no more.


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: Fiery]
    #26815983 - 07/10/20 08:13 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

nooooo!

:wtfsonic:


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26815990 - 07/10/20 08:15 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

The name Spicemaster is derogatory slang for a person from the country of India.

We're going to have to petition the mods for a name change for paw because Spicemaster is racist against Indian people.

AND IT MAKES ME MAD BECAUSE I LIKE ALL PEOPLE ESPECIALLY INDIANS


Racist names are NO LONGER ALLOWED


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: Fiery]
    #26816013 - 07/10/20 08:25 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Im with you guys. Ive got my pitchfork and my torch ready for any politically correct grammar that comes this way.


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: Cosmic Eye]
    #26816020 - 07/10/20 08:28 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

And while we're at it, let's address the still rampant sexism raging in the world.


I mean sexism can be more deadly than racism, causing single mothers to not be able to make enough to buy healthy food because they make less than the men and don't get promotions so they and their families don't live as long because of disease stemming from poor diet.


WHILE WE'RE AT IT.

Let's just burn the whole mah fukka down and start over. Wuddya think?:bubbles:


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: Cosmic Eye]
    #26816024 - 07/10/20 08:30 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

If only we could genetically modify our children so that when they reached for a non- PC word in their minds - it would draw a blank - or replace it with some predetermined safe for all PC term....:sadyes:


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: Fiery]
    #26816026 - 07/10/20 08:32 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

No more india super power 2020


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26816032 - 07/10/20 08:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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If only we could genetically modify our children so that when they reached for a non- PC word in their minds - it would draw a blank - or replace it with some predetermined safe for all PC term....:sadyes:




But sadly, most people are racist /not PC,

so 4/5 of the population would be walking around dumbfounded drawing blanks.

Which would be great because those of us non racist, PC people could take over the world and enslave all the racist people


Wait. Slavery.. Oh no. Now the whole process repeats itself again.


THERE IS NO ANSWER! UGH!"
:gollum:



What a conundrum


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: Fiery]
    #26816038 - 07/10/20 08:37 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

No answer is the answer. 

Enslave them all - even the slavers :kingcrankey:


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: Cosmic Eye]
    #26816044 - 07/10/20 08:39 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Whered you plagurize this?


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: The Blind Ass]
    #26816045 - 07/10/20 08:39 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

You're right.

The matrix machine takeover is the only answer.

Except this time there is no Neo or Zion or Rebels.

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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: Fiery]
    #26816117 - 07/10/20 09:24 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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I just feel like choosing a name for an organization like

BLack Lives Matter" was an unsmart choice.






It seems pretty intelligent for making it harder to criticize the groups agenda.  If they say something you disagree with, the suggestion is that you don't believe the lives of black people matter even if that isn't true.  People fall for it pretty often.  It's quite cunning actually. 

I say change the name from Redskins to something else that doesn't have a derogatory connotation, but keep the logo.  If I recall correctly, it is sketched after a real person and they were proud of it. 

The Chiefs doesn't seem derogatory to me as the Chief is the leader of the pack.


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: MrBlueYoMind]
    #26816167 - 07/10/20 09:52 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Black is a false label, as is White, as is Brown etc.

No human is any of those things.

Except the blue man group.


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: AlphaStar]
    #26816223 - 07/10/20 10:44 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Redskins is the most racist team name out there. Redskin is a slur its like calling your team the wetbacks or the Chinks. I don't think non natives should get an opinion if its racist or not. Its weird when white people cling to racist shit as part of their heritage.


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Re: The Washington Red Tails and other racial impacts. [Re: viraldrome]
    #26816414 - 07/11/20 02:50 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

The Redskins primary logo used today was first designed in 1971 in close consultation with Native American leaders. Among those who unanimously approved and voiced praise for the logo was Walter “Blackie” Wetzel, a former President of the National Congress of American Indians and Chairman of the Blackfeet Nation. Years earlier, Mr. Wetzel had been deeply involved with U.S. President John F. Kennedy in the movement for civil liberties, civil rights, and economic freedom for all. In 2014, Mr. Wetzel’s son Don commented, “It needs to be said that an Indian from the State of Montana created the Redskins logo, and did it the right way. It represents the Red Nation, and it’s something to be proud of.”

https://sportslogohistory.com/washington-redskins-primary-logo


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