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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Vahn421]
    #26814983 - 07/10/20 11:51 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, you did.  We're all proud of you.  That still isn't hypocrisy.  Go back to the definition you quoted.


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Enlil]
    #26814987 - 07/10/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Yes, you did.  We're all proud of you.  That still isn't hypocrisy.  Go back to the definition you quoted.




It's absolutely hypocrisy.


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Vahn421]
    #26814991 - 07/10/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Lawyers strive to use words properly. Having contradictory opinions isn’t hypocrisy


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Vahn421]
    #26814995 - 07/10/20 11:56 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Yes, you did.  We're all proud of you.  That still isn't hypocrisy.  Go back to the definition you quoted.




It's absolutely hypocrisy.



I'm going to try this one more time.  Hypocrisy is when someone does something that they condemn in other people.  Unless you can prove that the media doesn't wear masks while condemning others for not wearing masks, it's not hypocrisy.


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Vahn421]
    #26815010 - 07/10/20 12:02 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Well that’s because nobody wants to go to a trump rally.




Except half of our nation.




Not even half of the voting population wanted to go to a Trump rally, never mind half of our Nation's population.


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #26815011 - 07/10/20 12:03 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Yes, you did.  We're all proud of you.  That still isn't hypocrisy.  Go back to the definition you quoted.




It's absolutely hypocrisy.



I'm going to try this one more time.  Hypocrisy is when someone does something that they condemn in other people.  Unless you can prove that the media doesn't wear masks while condemning others for not wearing masks, it's not hypocrisy.




Having a moral or philosophical position and then not holding someone, whether it's yourself or anyone else to the same standards across the board is hypocrisy.

Unless you have a better word for it. And either way, this is a red herring to even be discussing semantics.


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Vahn421] * 1
    #26815014 - 07/10/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

Actually, I'm super curious what vocabulary word you think ought to be used now for these glaring double standards, if not the word "hypocrite."


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Vahn421]
    #26815016 - 07/10/20 12:05 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

That’s a double standard 🤷‍♂️


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Vahn421] * 1
    #26815020 - 07/10/20 12:07 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

You're wrong on both counts.  If you want to discuss media inconsistency, that's fine, but that isn't a left/right issue.  That's a human issue.  Humans are inconsistent.  The media is made up of humans.  There's always going to be inconsistencies within a given human.  Take any group of humans, like a media organization, and it would be beyond foolish to ever expect a single opinion from everyone in that organization.

You linked two articles by two different people about two different stories, and you are calling them inconsistent.  Why would you ever expect them to be otherwise?


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Enlil]
    #26815025 - 07/10/20 12:11 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Why would you ever expect them to be otherwise?




Because honest journalism is supposed to be.

I'll say it for the third time. I could link ten more. Every media outlet is doing this. It's all politically biased.


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Vahn421]
    #26815028 - 07/10/20 12:12 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

You think that everyone should have the same "correct" opinion about everything?  In what fantasy world would that ever happen?


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #26815035 - 07/10/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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You think that everyone should have the same "correct" opinion about everything?  In what fantasy world would that ever happen?




Your organization cannot say on one hand that Trump rallies helped spread covid and then on the other say protesters (MILLIONS who have not worn masks) do not.

It is not only intellectually dishonest but shows a major lack of integrity.

There is a process for submitting articles that involves a review of said articles before they are posted. (Most of the time.)

I MIGHT be able to write it off as human error if EVERY MAJOR MEDIA OUTLET wasn't doing the same thing.


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Vahn421] * 1
    #26815045 - 07/10/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

I would have argued ten years ago that the media's bias wasn't a left/right issue, but in 2020 their bias for the left is so transparent. (Aside from Fox, who sadly reports more accurately now than the rest. I never fuckin' though I'd see that day in my life... but here we are. I used to hate Fox...)


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Vahn421]
    #26815064 - 07/10/20 12:27 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I would have argued ten years ago that the media's bias wasn't a left/right issue, but in 2020 their bias for the left is so transparent. (Aside from Fox, who sadly reports more accurately now than the rest. I never fuckin' though I'd see that day in my life... but here we are. I used to hate Fox...)




I’d say you’ve chosen a product you agree with and are here to tell us about it.


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: christopera]
    #26815067 - 07/10/20 12:28 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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I would have argued ten years ago that the media's bias wasn't a left/right issue, but in 2020 their bias for the left is so transparent. (Aside from Fox, who sadly reports more accurately now than the rest. I never fuckin' though I'd see that day in my life... but here we are. I used to hate Fox...)




I’d say you’ve chosen a product you agree with and are here to tell us about it.




And I say just watch where the political left takes the party in the next 10 years. You can start by watching Seattle now that they're about to cut the police budget by 50%


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Vahn421] * 1
    #26815070 - 07/10/20 12:30 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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You think that everyone should have the same "correct" opinion about everything?  In what fantasy world would that ever happen?




Your organization cannot say on one hand that Trump rallies helped spread covid and then on the other say protesters (MILLIONS who have not worn masks) do not.

It is not only intellectually dishonest but shows a major lack of integrity.

There is a process for submitting articles that involves a review of said articles before they are posted. (Most of the time.)

I MIGHT be able to write it off as human error if EVERY MAJOR MEDIA OUTLET wasn't doing the same thing.



The very idea that an organization has an opinion and that everyone within that organization must conform his/her opinion to that organizational opinion is antithetical to the fundamental freedoms of our society.


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Vahn421]
    #26815072 - 07/10/20 12:31 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

You agree with Fox News and so consume it. The people of Seattle disagree with the product that the police have provided, so they’ve stopped consuming it. You guys aren’t that different.


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: christopera]
    #26815079 - 07/10/20 12:35 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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You agree with Fox News and so consume it.




Fox is hit and miss, it's just better than the rest.

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The people of Seattle disagree with the product that the police have provided, so they’ve stopped consuming it.You guys aren’t that different.




HA!

The *results* of one's "belief systems" are vastly different. Look around at the different things people manifest with their worldviews.

Seattle is now destined to be the next Detroit.

Just gonna slip this in here.



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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Vahn421]
    #26815086 - 07/10/20 12:40 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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Your organization cannot say on one hand that Trump rallies helped spread covid and then on the other say protesters (MILLIONS who have not worn masks) do not.



Omg what do you not understand? Outdoors and indoors are not the same thing at all. Protesting outside is low risk.


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Re: The hypocrisy on the part of the political left and Covid-19 [Re: Vahn421]
    #26815092 - 07/10/20 12:42 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

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