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OfflinePatlal
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Canadian police chiefs are asking Ottawa to decriminalize drug possession for personal use * 2
    #26814939 - 07/10/20 11:34 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Well well, look at this one. Canada's top cops is pressuring government to change drug laws for the better.  Being addicted to a scheduled substance is not a crime they say. Arresting individuals for simple possession has proven ineffective they say.

When the cops want to decriminalize drugs, let them :shrug:

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As Canada continues to battle an opioid epidemic, the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police is calling on federal lawmakers to decriminalize the possession of small amounts of illegal drugs for personal consumption.

CACP's president, Chief Const. Adam Palmer, said it's time to rethink how police and governments approach the use and abuse of illegal drugs in order to save lives.

"Arresting individuals for simple possession of illicit drugs has proven to be ineffective. It does not save lives," Palmer said. "The CACP recognizes substance use and addiction as a public health issue. Being addicted to a controlled substance is not a crime and should not be treated as such.

"We recommend that Canada's enforcement-based approach for possession be replaced with a health-care approach that diverts people from the criminal justice system."

CACP is a non-profit that represents about 1,300 police chiefs from federal, First Nations, provincial, regional, transportation and military police services across the country.

Palmer said that, as an alternative to the criminal model, partnerships could be formed between social services, police, the health-care sector and governments to ensure drug users get access to the treatment they need.

The focus of police efforts, he said, should be on cracking down on drug trafficking and the illegal production and importation of drugs — a task the police are better suited to address.

Palmer said such a shift in policing would require changes at the federal level to the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act.

In 2018, the CACP tasked a committee with exploring the impacts on public safety and policing of moving toward decriminalization.

#defundthepolice
That report, delivered this month, concluded that substance abuse is a public health issue and that taking a public health approach to the problem would lead to lower rates of crime, overdoses and blood-borne diseases.

Palmer was asked about the #defundthepolice movement on social media and whether police forces in Canada are willing to see their funding diverted toward social services or health care.

He said that in Vancouver, where he serves as chief constable of the Vancouver Police Department, police are already looking the other way on cases of simple possession in order to focus resources on trafficking and production — so there may not be much money to divert.

Palmer did say he was willing to discuss the notion of redirecting police funding to other initiatives if all affected parties are consulted.

A statement from Minister of Health Patty Hajdu and Justice Minister David Lametti said they welcomed the "endorsement of a holistic approach" to dealing with the opioid crisis.

"We appreciate efforts made by law enforcement officers to consider alternative options to criminal charges for simple possession of illicit drugs in appropriate cases, and recognize the importance of reducing barriers to treatment, as well as integrated partnerships between law enforcement and health and social services," the statement said.

The ministers went on to say that the federal government would continue to work with substance abuse experts, first responders and law enforcement to further their own public health approach to dealing with the opioid epidemic.

"Our government remains committed to advancing evidence-based responses to help reverse the trend of opioid overdose deaths and other substance-related harms in Canada."




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Re: Canadian police chiefs are asking Ottawa to decriminalize drug possession for personal use [Re: Patlal]
    #26814955 - 07/10/20 11:40 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

look at ur corrupt canadian government


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Re: Canadian police chiefs are asking Ottawa to decriminalize drug possession for personal use [Re: cannabinated] * 1
    #26815019 - 07/10/20 12:07 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

making drugs illegal is totally ineffective
But there are a lot of retirement / pension plans set up around it


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Re: Canadian police chiefs are asking Ottawa to decriminalize drug possession for personal use [Re: theRealrollforever]
    #26815077 - 07/10/20 12:35 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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theRealrollforever said:
making drugs illegal is totally ineffective
But there are a lot of retirement / pension plans set up around it



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Re: Canadian police chiefs are asking Ottawa to decriminalize drug possession for personal use [Re: theRealrollforever]
    #26815114 - 07/10/20 12:49 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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theRealrollforever said:
making drugs illegal is totally ineffective
But there are a lot of retirement / pension plans set up around it




Lawyers make a killing off of drugs.


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Re: Canadian police chiefs are asking Ottawa to decriminalize drug possession for personal use [Re: Patlal]
    #26815226 - 07/10/20 01:34 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Definitely would be safer for everyone if drugs were legal. Even safer if the government were the drug dealers.


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Re: Canadian police chiefs are asking Ottawa to decriminalize drug possession for personal use [Re: Shiithead] * 1
    #26815237 - 07/10/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Its a waste not just of money but of every other kind of resources to arrest and convict a user for a user quantity of drugs.

Its irrational.


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Re: Canadian police chiefs are asking Ottawa to decriminalize drug possession for personal use [Re: Shiithead]
    #26815293 - 07/10/20 02:05 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Shiithead said:
Definitely would be safer for everyone if drugs were legal. Even safer if the government were the drug dealers.




Today, the government/The Elite are the drug dealers. Prohibition is just so much more profitable.


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Re: Canadian police chiefs are asking Ottawa to decriminalize drug possession for personal use [Re: qman]
    #26815298 - 07/10/20 02:08 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

You say that Qman, but shit is about to hit the fan, they ned to free up law enforcement capacity and budgets tighten.

Legalization of meaningless petty crime is the only sensible move.


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Re: Canadian police chiefs are asking Ottawa to decriminalize drug possession for personal use [Re: Asante]
    #26815317 - 07/10/20 02:15 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Asante said:
You say that Qman, but shit is about to hit the fan, they ned to free up law enforcement capacity and budgets tighten.

Legalization of meaningless petty crime is the only sensible move.




Yeah, all credit to Canada, but the US is a totally different story. The US is still in a full blown 'war on drugs'.  :shrug:  Will that change down the road?  I have my doubts.


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Re: Canadian police chiefs are asking Ottawa to decriminalize drug possession for personal use [Re: Patlal]
    #26815335 - 07/10/20 02:30 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Should have been done decades ago


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Re: Canadian police chiefs are asking Ottawa to decriminalize drug possession for personal use [Re: KetamineAndHoes]
    #26815416 - 07/10/20 03:06 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Palmer said such a shift in policing would require changes at the federal level to the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act.




Did he just admit to cops being blind order followers that can't think for themselves?

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Shiithead said:
Definitely would be safer for everyone if drugs were legal. Even safer if the government were the drug dealers.



The American government used to poison liquor. No thanks



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Re: Canadian police chiefs are asking Ottawa to decriminalize drug possession for personal use [Re: Asante]
    #26815486 - 07/10/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

It's this shit right here, the busting of weed smokers (due to the smell incriminating them), and small amounts of personal use drugs that get the same charges as let's say pounds of weed and ounces of nasal/inj/smokable drugs. Corporate greed/greed is killing the world! Opportunistic/corporatist/capitalist/greedy motherfuckers are killing the world!


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Re: Canadian police chiefs are asking Ottawa to decriminalize drug possession for personal use [Re: Asante]
    #26815489 - 07/10/20 03:45 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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Asante said:
Its a waste not just of money but of every other kind of resources to arrest and convict a user for a user quantity of drugs.

Its irrational.



I agree 100%!!!


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Re: Canadian police chiefs are asking Ottawa to decriminalize drug possession for personal use [Re: qman]
    #26815500 - 07/10/20 03:51 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

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qman said:
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Asante said:
You say that Qman, but shit is about to hit the fan, they ned to free up law enforcement capacity and budgets tighten.

Legalization of meaningless petty crime is the only sensible move.




Yeah, all credit to Canada, but the US is a totally different story. The US is still in a full blown 'war on drugs'.  :shrug:  Will that change down the road?  I have my doubts.





The US GOv't has increasing budget trouble, they are faced with increasing unrest among the population, there are going to be lockdowns, mass graves and dinks in the economy. I know the US Gov't is committed to remain balls deep into the War on Drugs, but it may have to pull out prematurely because it has to free up budget, man power and other resources to fight more urgent matters than possession of an eighth of weed or shrooms.

They may have no choice, just like you have legalized states and autonomous zones now.

The State is failing.


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Re: Canadian police chiefs are asking Ottawa to decriminalize drug possession for personal use [Re: Asante]
    #26815506 - 07/10/20 03:55 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

In some states weed is legal and for sale. In some its decriminalized. In some its looked past. And in others its still a crime. America doesn't have a universal policy on weed. The feds hardly wage war on it anymore either

The real drug war is securing opiates to bring back home. There's a reason they only bust a few ships a year. To look good


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Re: Canadian police chiefs are asking Ottawa to decriminalize drug possession for personal use [Re: Shiithead]
    #26815626 - 07/10/20 05:07 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I have only ever been searched for drugs going into a festival so this doesn't affect me in any way. The cops aren't kicking down doors for 1/8 shrooms, you really have to try to get caught for possession. I guess its good for black and native people who racist cops search too often. There really should be zero arrests for possession.

The fight I'm interested in is the safe supply battle, and trying to get LSD on the list. People have taken nbomes and thought it was LSD and died, therefore any discussion on addicts getting pure drugs needs to include us.

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Definitely would be safer for everyone if drugs were legal. Even safer if the government were the drug dealers.




The government of Canada's over regulation of weed ruined legal weed. Its shitty garbage, and the edibles are so weak you'll go into diabetic coma trying to get high. Government needs to get out of the way of our right to cognitive liberty.


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Re: Canadian police chiefs are asking Ottawa to decriminalize drug possession for personal use [Re: Patlal]
    #26815632 - 07/10/20 05:10 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

I can't wait for the day we can all share drugs over shroomery.com:heart:

We could finally have a real MDMA lottery open to ALL members :naughty:

And of course #FreeSheekle


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Re: Canadian police chiefs are asking Ottawa to decriminalize drug possession for personal use [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26815650 - 07/10/20 05:20 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Does the Shroomery become more or less important/popular if Canada and the rest of the world were to decriminalize drug possession?


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Re: Canadian police chiefs are asking Ottawa to decriminalize drug possession for personal use [Re: pslyke] * 1
    #26815655 - 07/10/20 05:22 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

Id say more. People would want somewhere to go. It would only become more relevant, as people continually need dosage/usage advice, like-minded people, and to talk about their experiences. One day we shall be sensei to the masses


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Re: Canadian police chiefs are asking Ottawa to decriminalize drug possession for personal use [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #26815742 - 07/10/20 06:05 PM (3 years, 6 months ago)

People will want to grow their own shrooms if theres no legal incentive not to do so.


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